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Offline 123kid

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Risk is low but weird symptoms
« on: October 22, 2007, 12:56:52 PM »
A little over 14 weeks ago I had condom protected vaginal sex & unprotected oral. I didn't know the woman well, just that she was separated and her husband messed around on her. Vaginal sex didn't last long, maybe 15-30 secs tops (her on top). She also mentioned she was having her period, but that it was very light.
She told me she didn't have HIV before & afterwards when I asked, but I don't know if she's ever been tested. I know she has two small kids, so I'm guessing she has.

The condom didn't appear to have broken (I'm told it would be obvious), but it was a little dark and I didn't look too hard. I asked her and she said it never broke.

I wasn't too worried at the time because I figured I had been pretty much safe.

6 weeks & 4 days later had my jaw swell pretty big while eating, it went away mostly by the next day and remained very slight for a little while. I wasn't too worried about this, I had it happen once a year before while I was eating too.

This time I decided to see the doc, he gave me antibiotics and I also asked for an HIV test. My test was taken at 7 weeks (50 days) and was negative.

The antibiotics gave me diereah after the first day for about seven days. Also at 7 weeks 4 days I started feeling neck/under arms pains. I had a gland below my ear swell slightly (doc confirmed but said it was nothing to worry about... I still have it), rest I can't say for sure as I never really felt around before. Pains went away after a week, I thought everything might have been from antibiotics. I had a slightly warm head here and there, but nothing constant or that I would have noticed had I not kept feeling my head.

After I stopped the antibiotics I got bad diereah again, this time it wasn't as watery, just loose stool and frequent trips to the bathroom (I also have ulcerative colitis). Doc said it was probably from the antibiotics or a UC flare. It started at week 9 and lasted about 2 weeks then started getting much better.

At 12 weeks I started getting pains in the back of my head/neck. It started with pain in the middle back of my head, felt around and found a long bump. Then my neck started getting sore, I couldn't really tell if they were lymph nodes swelling there or not. But it was painful and I could sorta see slight indentations on my neck if streched it.
This has been going on for slightly over two weeks. I also had underarm/groin pain but nothing I can confirm as swollen.
Two days ago I was having pain not far from my temple, in front of my ear, after a while I felt a bump appeared

That's the way it works if I do feel something. I usually look at pics of where lymph nodes are located after I feel the pain to see if indeed there is a lymph node there.

Up until the 6th week, I didn't really have symptoms. Maybe loose stool once or twice and maybe a slightly warm head here and there with sweating at night (but it was during the summer so might have been from weather).

It seems that most of the pain I've been having is starting to go away. I know my risk is low.

I was thinking maybe the condom was stored in bad conditions before I used it but I think that would only cause it to be more likely to break.

I'm also told that my 7 week test would have shown if I was indeed infected. And that the symptoms I had started too late or would have appeared on my first test.

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2007, 01:58:50 PM »
kid,

Your risk wasn't low, it was non-existant. You did not have a risk for hiv infection. Your test was negative because you do not have hiv. You do not need further testing over this incident.

Keep working with your doctor to find out what, if anything, is wrong with you. You do not have hiv.

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Offline 123kid

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2007, 11:30:33 AM »
Do my head/neck pain/bumps (possible lymph node enlargement) seem like symptoms?
It's weird because its been going on for 2-3 weeks and after 7 & 1/2 weeks began again at 12.

Maybe it's just stress or just the baths I had been taking a few weeks prior to it beginning at 12 weeks.

I was thinking the same thing as you though, I did use a condom... and as long as it didn't obviously break (duration of vaginal was very short too) I should have no problems.

Offline 123kid

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2007, 12:10:55 PM »
Also, if they were swollen, would it be super noticeable?
Like where I could tell without having to feel around.

Now my neck is just a little stiff.

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2007, 12:15:35 PM »
Nothing you have mentioned was a risk for HIV. Your symptoms are unrelated to HIV. Only a doctor can diagnose swollen lymph nodes.

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2007, 03:29:50 PM »
Nothing you have mentioned was a risk for HIV. Your symptoms are unrelated to HIV. Only a doctor can diagnose swollen lymph nodes.

yeah, i know you're right. I guess I'll just try some neck excersises or a heat pad and see how that goes.

I have no other problems/symptoms really.

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2007, 11:29:54 AM »
I'm sorry to bother you guys but I have one more question.

Last night I noticed my underarm might be slightly swollen, there's sort of a lump on the left side that wasn't there before (and isn't under my other arm).

Would it be too early after ars to have nodes swell so soon (week 12-15)? I used a heat pad for the back/front of neck though, it feels better today.

And the condom I used, was a thinner one I think (latex though). I put it on, but she took it off me, I kinda looked at it from my angle and it didn't seem broken. She wanted to reuse the same condom after oral, so I don't think it broke. (i didn't reuse it or do anything else). I also had some bad hickies but no bleeding or anything.

Do my symptoms sound anything like what would actually be happening if I had been infected or am I totally off?

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2007, 11:32:25 AM »
You never had a risk so it has nothing to do with ARS. If you have a concern for your underarm, see your doctor.

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2007, 12:22:23 PM »
Kid, you're not listening to us. You're listening to your fears. You didn't do anything that put you at risk for HIV transmission. You used a condom. They provide very effective protection.

You're just coming up with a lot of what ifs and tying them into your symptoms, which of course are not in any way HIV specific. As Rod has suggested, discuss them with your doctor. This is NOT an HIV situation. Period.
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Offline 123kid

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2007, 01:23:59 PM »
I'm sorry again guys.

This morning I awoke with pain under me right arm pit. I felt around and found that it was slightly swollen in the back corner of my armpit. It's sorta painful without even touching it, I went to the gym last night so I thought it might be a hurt muscle or something but it feels like the pain I had under my other armpit before when it became slightly swollen (still swollen but no pain) and it's in the exact area a lymph node would be.

The node I had below my ear (on my neck) is starting to go away after 9 weeks. It's decreased in size about 75% so I think it will be gone in another week or two... so that's my good news lol.

So you guys are pretty sure I could not have contracted HIV by using a condom for vaginal & unprotected oral?

If I did have HIV could I still be having new nodes swelling at 17 weeks?

Liike I said once, when I logically think about it I don't see how I could have it. The girls ex husband would have had to have it then her and I would have had to caught it threw the condom or by oral (as long as the condom didn't break) and then have my 50 day hiv test be inacurate (i've read nearly everyone tests positive by 6 weeks).

If all the swelling I've recently been having since my encounter is not related to HIV, then I'm not really too worried about it. I don't recall ever having this type of swelling but I never really felt around when I got pain in areas and I usually have physicals every year (last time was dec last year).

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2007, 02:55:35 PM »
You don't have HIV. If you feel ill see your doctor.

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2007, 06:11:42 PM »
I also forgot to mention, i have a some swelling above my collar bone on my left side. It's sorta squishy and long like a short piece of string. I first noticed it at about the end of the 7th week since the sexual contact (a little after swollen lymph appeared under ear on neck). I don't know if it was always there, but the other side is not swollen/raised like that.

This happened about 3-5 days after starting antibiotics. It's still here 2 months later though like I said my neck node is going down.

I was just wondering again, if my nodes were to swell due to HIV/ARS symptoms, would they have swollen all over at once (1-2 days) or continued to swell here & there for months.
I never really was sick since I did what I did with the girl, I might have had a very slight fever at about 7-8 weeks but it wasn't constant and would come & go... wouldn't have really noticed if hadn't been paranoid.

So you guys are telling me you're sure I could not have become infected? There's a girl I'm interested in, but I hesitate due to the swollen lymph nodes I believe I am experiencing.

The girl I had sex with a few months ago was the first girl I really ever had vaginal sex with (although very brief 10-30 sec tops) lol. Oral before but only really with a condom.

I think back to all the times I never really got past fooling around with girls I didn't know very well for this exact reason (heck even ones i knew) and think what are the chances of it happening the one time I actually didn't listen to my head and went along lol. I know I should have chosen someone I knew better & trusted, but I didn't. Figured I'd be safe enough with what I did that I just wanted to try it once lol.

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2007, 06:19:33 PM »
Your fears and symptoms notwithstanding, this not an HIV situation. Really. See your doctor about your symptoms.

And keep those latex condoms handy for when you get around to having intercourse again.

Nothing you have done has put you at risk for HIV transmission.

Cheers,
Andy Velez

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2007, 03:06:26 PM »
I've now had more swelling under my arm pit. It seems like 3-4 areas under left side, & 1 or 2 under the right underarm along with a few I've had on my neck previously.

Also near my elbow, the inside area where the crease is (inside where arm bends), I now have some swelling... it's sort of the area where they'd draw blood out for a test but slightly more towards me if I lay my elbow down on the desk with the crease area facing up. I'm not even sure if there is a lymph node in the area, but I felt some pain there and rubbed it, noticing that it was slightly raised.

Like I said before if it wasn't because of the swelling/pain, I'd have no problems... but I'm pretty sure it's not in my head. The ones in the armpit others can see if I point them out.

Is it possible to have lymph nodes swell 12-18/19 weeks after an HIV infection? Assuming that ars had occured for me during end of week 6 to week 9.

I'd go to my doc, but I know once he sees the swellings he's going to test me again.

I'm sorry it's just really bothering me, I don't know what else could be causing all this swelling. I've been having pains in my groin area, but no swelling I can see.

I keep trying to ignore everything in hopes that it goes away, but every time I get over it something else swells. I know it's not due to stress.

Has anyone ever seen a case like mine that was due to HIV? I still can't figure out how I'd catch it if the condom didn't break & oral is not really possible.

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Re: Risk is low but weird symptoms
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2007, 03:15:59 PM »
HEY!

HEY!

HEY!

You're STILL not listening. We tell you that you weren't at risk for HIV and you simply go right on about your symptoms.

I am not questioning that you have physical symptoms. We're simply saying THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIV.

You need to work with your doctor(s) to determine what the real cause(s) might be. It's not HIV. Period. End of Story.

If you just keep coming back with the same insistence that it's about HIV you're going to end up getting a time out. We can't do anything more for you here. This is an HIV site and you don't have HIV. Be glad of that and move on to get help for your symptoms in the appropriate medical setting.

 
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