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Offline newbernswiss

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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #50 on: October 17, 2007, 06:06:29 PM »
 :DMy, My, MAtTY, and all you wanted was a heart . . . stay on the yellow brick road for a bigger one dear.
   

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I knew Matty had a secret, I must call Ellen.

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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #51 on: October 17, 2007, 06:11:05 PM »
Hehehehehe. You're the first Swiss I've met with a sense of humour. ;)

Now back to the handwringing over Ellen's fleabag.

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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #52 on: October 17, 2007, 10:03:57 PM »
Well, if you haven't heard, Iggy got adopted out to another family.....So the Queen's final word is Ellen should man up along with the hair dresser and get those girls another pet. And this time read the fine print....That is all...
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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #53 on: October 17, 2007, 10:11:14 PM »
I'm sorry but Degeneres' outburst was pathetic and embarassing.  There are people starving in Darfur etc, but this pet problem was worthy of a televised breakdown?  Please.  The kids had the dog for what, two weeks?  Get 'em another and little Iggy will be quickly forgotten.
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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2007, 10:14:57 PM »
Well, if you haven't heard, Iggy got adopted out to another family.....So the Queen's final word is Ellen should man up along with the hair dresser and get those girls another pet. And this time read the fine print....That is all...

Maybe that new adopting family can secretly hand Iggy off to the hairdresser and we can start the circle all over again next week.
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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2007, 10:22:00 PM »
Maybe that new adopting family can secretly hand Iggy off to the hairdresser and we can start the circle all over again next week.


Now wouldn't that be beating the preverbial dead horse? Then we would have to start a thread about you and animal abuse..... :-*
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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2007, 10:28:44 PM »
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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2007, 10:54:58 PM »
Off the subject a bit, someday i'm goina make a youtube of rich people crying. Paris Hilton, Ellen, so on and so on. Should filthy rich people be allowed to cry???   ???

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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2007, 10:57:07 PM »
Off the subject a bit, someday i'm goina make a youtube of rich people crying. Paris Hilton, Ellen, so on and so on. Should filthy rich people be allowed to cry???   ???

Yes, if we want to.  8)

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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2007, 10:59:37 PM »
Off the subject a bit, someday i'm goina make a youtube of rich people crying. Paris Hilton, Ellen, so on and so on. Should filthy rich people be allowed to cry???   ???

Um, why not? Are you saying when you are filthy rich you no longer have feelings? I guess feelings sound too mushy so they change it to issues....Sorry to hijack but just wanted to address this or maybe it shouldn't be considered a hijack but a distraction.......*Yells* Tito, hand me the tissues and Jerome, get me a mirror.... :D
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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #60 on: October 17, 2007, 11:04:56 PM »
Yes, if we want to.  8)

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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2007, 11:27:28 PM »
It seems to me that anyone with half a brain at that pet adoption agency should have known this would blow up in their face.  And I have little sympathy for organizations or people who are not flexible and adaptable, within reason.  And this could have very reasonably been handled quite differently by the agency. 

Certainly, it's not the most important issue that Ellen could have used her position in the media to publicize.  But to me it rates far above the endless stories I see about Britney Spears these days.

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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #62 on: October 18, 2007, 12:33:51 AM »
 :'(

And I'm not even a celebrity.

 :'(

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Offline Queen Tokelove

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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2007, 12:38:08 AM »
Hey, I'm a celebrity even if in my own mind..And I got feelings too, dammit, er, I mean issues..... :'(
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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #64 on: October 18, 2007, 08:25:21 AM »
Alright alright....I signed it FCS!
now stop crying Ellen....its not pretty on TV
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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2007, 12:28:58 PM »
It seems to me that anyone with half a brain at that pet adoption agency should have known this would blow up in their face.  And I have little sympathy for organizations or people who are not flexible and adaptable, within reason.  And this could have very reasonably been handled quite differently by the agency. 

Certainly, it's not the most important issue that Ellen could have used her position in the media to publicize.  But to me it rates far above the endless stories I see about Britney Spears these days.

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Henry

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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #66 on: October 18, 2007, 03:06:14 PM »
Singed it with pleasure. #12613

The Shelter (Operators) in this case are wrong and are just being mean spirited.

Around this time of year, Halloween, The California's Animal shelters (SPCA) won't allow adopting of any black cats. For obvious reasons. There are two sides to every story and then the truth. Give Iggy back to the 12-year-old girl that has had it and loved it for over a month before they ripped it out of the home.

Good thing Ellen's not friends with Michael Vick.  :P



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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #67 on: October 19, 2007, 04:18:45 AM »
If you signed it with your real name, be prepared to come up on a google search!

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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #68 on: October 19, 2007, 11:34:39 AM »


ps:  I've got some mighty tasty gossip about Ellen in my back pocket too!


Dish it ... Im dieing here..

"And to think, In some countries, these Dogs Are Eaten..."  and with that I think weve just about exhausted all of the good Dog Quotes,

Just by taking a look at the story as a whole, it seems that the shelter was obviously trying to make a point with a celebrity..and possibly get a shit ton of free publicity, and then Ellens bizarre breakdown blew it up in their face, I can Hardly wait for Southpark to do an episode on it ( remember what they did for Martha Stewart ?? )   although it would be an amazing turn of events If some animal rights group burned down the shelter or Aired out one of the directors like one of those Abortion clinic Vigalantes...

Im glad its finally been setteled, now I can concentrate on the Michael Vick and OJ trials and Brittanys Custody woes....http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/party/party0052.gif
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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #69 on: October 19, 2007, 01:26:21 PM »
I am  glad we have our own Iggy.  Eventhough he could use a little potty training he is a good little pup.  ;D

I just caught this.   Actually Jeromy and I agree that piss has more use than something to be flushed away.

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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #70 on: October 19, 2007, 02:36:51 PM »

I just caught this.   Actually Jeromy and I agree that piss has more use than something to be flushed away.

All I can say is Ewwwwwww....
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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #71 on: October 19, 2007, 03:29:20 PM »
All I can say is Ewwwwwww....

What?   Here I am always accused of being a mean and nasty person, yet someone says ewww when I make mention that I like to spray some liquid sunshine another's rosebud?

Maybe if I sing Good Morning Starshine when I do it?  :-\

Damn, I'm picked on for being mean and picked on for being all flower child like...I just can't win. 


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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #72 on: October 19, 2007, 04:38:42 PM »
What?   Here I am always accused of being a mean and nasty person, yet someone says ewww when I make mention that I like to spray some liquid sunshine another's rosebud?

Maybe if I sing Good Morning Starshine when I do it?  :-\

Damn, I'm picked on for being mean and picked on for being all flower child like...I just can't win. 



Another's rosebud? Um, should I even ask what that means? And I would never pick on you dearest Iggy.
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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #73 on: October 19, 2007, 04:50:06 PM »
Another's rosebud? Um, should I even ask what that means? And I would never pick on you dearest Iggy.

I know.  :-*

 Just playing around some to let off some steam.  As for the rosebud question.  I'd post some examples but they would probably get my account deleted.


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« Reply #74 on: October 19, 2007, 04:58:48 PM »
Another's rosebud? Um, should I even ask what that means?

Do a google-image search for "goatse" (now, run along and MAKE SURE you spell it EXACTLY like I did)
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Re: Ellen Degeneres
« Reply #75 on: October 19, 2007, 05:01:03 PM »
Well, sweetie when you get some time, PM me some examples, that way you can't be given the boot. I try to be knowledgable on all slang.... ;D

Philly--- Ok, will do but I hope I don't regret it....I regret it, I regret it, that image will stick with me for a long time. I am so like Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Thank the Goddess I have a strong stomach....
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« Reply #76 on: October 19, 2007, 07:41:15 PM »
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« Reply #77 on: October 20, 2007, 11:26:40 AM »
I know.  :-*

 Just playing around some to let off some steam.  As for the rosebud question.  I'd post some examples but they would probably get my account deleted.



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« Reply #78 on: October 21, 2007, 01:27:14 PM »
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« Reply #79 on: October 21, 2007, 03:27:20 PM »
Ok, you almost got me with that one, Lwood. As I read the article my blood pressure started to rise. It took me reading the other things around the article to see it was a gag. And I had my next post all ready too.
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« Reply #80 on: October 26, 2007, 06:45:27 PM »
While the rescue group could have been more flexible the fault lies with Ellen and Portia for assuming the dog was another possession they could dispose of as they saw fit.  It's totally irrelevant if they spent $3.00 or $3,000,000.00 on the dog.  Rescue groups and even animal control offices are often very selective and potential adopters go though a house/yard check, vet references, questions about family members, other pets, amount of time pet will be alone, and other steps intended to insure the animal has a safe, happy home for the rest of its life.   They broke the contract barely one month after adopting the dog, not two or three years later.  Rescue groups often follow up with adoptive homes to be sure everything is working well and Mutts and Moms is no different.

Of course the two kids are upset, but if they kept the dog would they have gotten tired of it after 6 months and left it to lie around alone all the time?  I don't say they would but those are the types of issues rescue organizations try to deal with pro-actively to prevent such common occurrences.  Everyone loves a new puppy or dog but what is important is they continue to love and care for the animal its entire life.  Many dogs in the pound were once adorable puppies that amused the owners until the dog grew up. 

Ellen has done a great disservice to animal rescue and welfare organizations everywhere.  She should have kept the matter private and not demonized the rescue group because its operators insisted she adhere to the contract.   If Mutts and Moms is anything like the groups I've worked with they survive chiefly on private donations.  If donations stop coming in they cease operations and animals that would have been saved are put to sleep.  Is that more desirable than having strict adoption rules? 

You have to be familiar with the reality of disposable pets in this country before you judge what this group did.  I don't know why they decided the hairdresser's home wasn't suitable and most organizations will not publicly state why they made such a decision but will discuss their concerns with the prospective adopting family.  I watched one maudlin video with Ellen and one of the little girls and the child was saying she didn't want to cooperate with Mutts and Moms and felt they were intruding, attitudes not likely to win over Mutts and Moms volunteers.

I've read some of what Mutts and Moms said and believe the issue might have been resolved happily for all but they were backed into a corner as the bad guys for following their rules.  Ellen and Portia should have paid more attention when they adopted the dog because they were asked if there were any children in the house under 14 and the contract unequivocally states, in language more rigid than most, the animal is non-transferable, period, and also states an adopter who violates this condition may have to pay "liquidated damages in the amount of $500.”   This may be typical in California but contracts I've seen state the animal cannot be given directly to a new home but has to be returned to the rescue organization.  Why?  Because if the animal goes to a new home and the organization deems it unsuitable they have to take it from the new family no matter how heart-broken the family members are.   That's what happened in this situation and it never would have occurred if Ellen had followed the contract.  She's responsible for those little girls, not Mutts and Moms.

JA
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