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risk of hiv exposure
« on: October 15, 2007, 03:00:01 PM »
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 40 days ago i had sex with escort in denver colorado no oral vaginal only thing is condom slipped off i am very worried took hiv test on day 40 10/15/07 what is the likelyhood that i contracted hiv i have told my wife just incase and i could not live with myself can you please help me here also took hiv viral load test on day 15 it came back negative is this a good sign or to early i really need advise here my anxiety is about to kill me i already feel that i may have hiv i have truly learned from this

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Re: risk of hiv exposure
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2007, 03:37:04 PM »
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    can you please reply on this matter

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2007, 03:40:53 PM »
Settle down there, mate.

You were having protected sex up until the condom slipped off. HIV is a fussy fragile virus which is difficult to transmit, especially from female to male and so the likelihood of you having been infected from this encounter is extremely low.

Nevertheless "extremely low risk" is not the same as "no risk" and so you should have an HIV antibody test performed at 13 weeks from the date of the encounter. Given that there are other more common and transmissible diseases out there other than HIV I'd recommend a full STD screen as well. A full STD screen will include but is not limited to an HIV antibody test.

You should not be having HIV viral load tests performed. These are not approved for diagnostic purposes and have an unacceptable rate of false positives.

Please take the time to read our Welcome Thread and follow the links to our Lessons to learn more about how HIV is and is not transmitted.

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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2007, 03:46:18 PM »
i was put on doxycycline on day 6 after exposure tested for gonerrah and cymindia they were negative today10/15  retested for hiv and herpes simplex when my exposure was finished im not sure if it slipped off when pulling out the whole thing lasted maybe 1 min 30 sec

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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2007, 04:13:55 PM »
I'm going to repeat some of what you've already been told. HIV is NOT an easy virus to transmit. Until the condom slipped off you were protected. Given this was a single incident and the possible exposure so brief, the odds are overwhelmingly in your favor that you will test negative when you get around to testing.

You should do that at 13 weeks past the incident. Those viral tests are not a good idea. They were not intended to be used diagnostically. Because of their high level of sensitivity they can not infrequenly give a FALSE positive. Be patient and test at 13 weeks. Stay productively busy in the meantime and you will be surprised at how quickly the waiting can pass. And again, I do expect you're going to test negative.

Cheers,

 
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2007, 04:18:00 PM »
thanks andy
              so you think the  hiv antibody test i took today is to early 10/18/07 would make it 6 weeks i just figured i would take it today im hoping for a negative result here i am worried to death

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2007, 04:44:02 PM »
It is too early for a final reliable result. But given that the average time to seroconversion is 22 days and that all but the smallest number of those who are going to seroconvert will do so within 4-6 weeks after an exposure, your negative test result is very encouraging. I expect you to continue to test negative. Now, get busy...
Andy Velez

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Re: risk of hiv exposure
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2007, 01:37:42 PM »
i would like for anyone out there who reads this and that may be in a similar situration to reply thanks

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Re: risk of hiv exposure
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2007, 02:53:12 PM »
i would like for anyone out there who reads this and that may be in a similar situration to reply thanks

Shadow,

Other people (aside from those of us who are authorised to answer questions in this forum) aren't supposed to post in your thread - so don't invite them to do so.

It sounds to me like the condom slipped off during withdrawal - in which case you didn't have a risk at all. A six week negative result (if you actually had a risk, which I doubt) is not likely to change. In fact, under your circumstances you don't really need to test again. A condom slipping off upon withdrawal might be scary, but it isn't a risk for hiv infection.

Make sure you hang onto the condom in future when you withdraw so you don't scare yourself again. Read through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you know how to use them properly.

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Re: risk of hiv exposure
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2007, 01:27:49 PM »
jusy wanted to let you know that my 40 day test came back negative do you think i should retest or not

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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2007, 02:40:38 PM »
Congrats on that happy result. Since there was even a slight concern about when the condom came off I would say re-test at 13 weeks and collect another negative result. I'd say that is the better choice as it will remove any lingering doubts you may have.
Andy Velez

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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2007, 02:51:00 PM »
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     i feel really good right now every thing i have read says 90 to 95 percent would show positive 22 to 34 days after exposure this being my only exposure i think i will be fine do you have anything to add to this

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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2007, 08:38:40 PM »
I've already said what I thought needed saying. You decide what you're comfortable with.
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Re: risk of hiv exposure
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2007, 09:41:46 AM »
to ann or andy
     like i said i tested on day 40 it was negative told my wife then i called the health dept lady there said she saw no need for further testing i know that you say 13 weeks i am just ready to move on and like i said this is the only exposure that i have had in 12 years cdc says most test show positive after 25 days can you please advise here

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Re: risk of hiv exposure
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2007, 10:20:13 AM »
shadow,

It's doubtful that you had a risk in the first place - and as Andy told you, it's up to you whether or not to continue testing. I don't expect your result to change.

Ann
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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2007, 11:30:40 AM »
i was just wondering why you say the results shoudnt change being that i need to retest what is the percentage that i would show a positive when i do retest do you know i hope and pray i am ok here i just cant get it out of my head because the next test would be on dec 5 or 11 did i test to early which was day 40 two days shy of six weeks does that matter please answer

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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2007, 11:56:14 AM »
Shadow,

From what you've told us, it sounds to me like the condom slipped off when you withdrew. This is not a risk for hiv infection when it happens. If this is what happened to you, then you never needed to test in the first place.

I don't expect your results to change because of the reason above (that you weren't at risk) and also because if you did actually have a risk, you most likely would have tested positive when you tested recently.

It's up to you whether you continue to test over this. If you are convinced you were at risk, collect your conclusive negative result at the appropriate time and move on.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: risk of hiv exposure
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2007, 02:10:56 PM »
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    i just not 100 percent sure it slipped off when i was pulling out could have i know that it was not wrinkled up or balled up i think i will be ok

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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2007, 11:10:17 AM »
ann or andy
       can you tell me if there are numbers out there that show how many escorts that may have hiv just wondering also talked to my doctor he said a 40 day negative was good and that he has never seen a positive come back after  a 6 week test and hes like you all my exposure was low risk can you reply

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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2007, 12:17:43 PM »
To obtain a conclusive negative result is 3 months post exposure. There are no tests approved to give you a conclusive negative result before then.

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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2007, 12:37:15 PM »
rapid rod
      i did a antibody test at day 40 i was just trying to ease my mind here although i feel i am a low risk for hiv and from reading the cdc website on average most positives would show up after 25 days not saying i wont retest i will

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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2007, 12:50:58 PM »
The CDC also states that to get a conclusive result you have to test out to 3 months post exposure.

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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2007, 01:00:38 PM »
yes i know and i will but would you agree that i probably will still test negative at that point

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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2007, 01:42:25 PM »
shadow,

Your doctor has told you it's unlikely for your result to change. We've told you the same and for the same reasons.

Now it's time you got off your computer and got yourself busy, while you either put this behind you or wait for your three month test.

Whatever you do, you won't be allowed to beg this forum for reassurance every day. If you need your hand held, seek counseling. We're not a mental health forum.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2007, 01:51:35 PM »
ann or andy
       can you tell me if i was going to have symptoms of hiv could they start up at the 8 week mark i cant seem to find a correct answer this will be my last quetion until i get tested  again just wanted to know because i am having some symptoms please advise

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« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2007, 03:56:29 PM »
The average time to seroconversion is 22 days. All but the smallest number of those who are going to seroconvert will do so within 4-6 weeks after an exposure. The likelihood of someone just beginning to have ARS at 8 weeks is extremely unlikely.

Andy Velez

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« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2007, 04:08:56 PM »
thanks andy
       so its safe to say that my sore throat and the fever blister at the tip of my tongue is not related to ars or hiv

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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2007, 02:45:28 PM »
look i hate to be a pain here but i really am having some problems i have sore throat nightsweats and a swollen shoulderbone could i be experinceing hiv symptoms at 8 weeks i cant seem to find an answer some sites say 1 to  2 months please answer also pain under right arm pit

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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2007, 04:15:41 PM »
No matter what list of symptoms you recite our answers to you will not change. If your shoulder is sore see your doctor.

MtD

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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2007, 08:29:43 AM »
ok guys and girls
            i tested at 8 weeks 3 days test is still negative i am going to see the doctor because i know i am having symptoms of ars anyway i am on week 10 so i only have a couple weeks left here to get the conclusive could i be really having ars symptoms and do you really think i will stay negative at my 3 month conclusive

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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2007, 08:37:14 AM »
Given when you have already tested negative and all of the other factors you have mentioned related to this incident, YES!, I do expect you are going to continue to test negative. It would be more than rare for you to get other than a negative result at this point.

Stay productively busy and these last weeks will go more quickly than you may imagine possible. I expect you to come out ok.

Cheers,
Andy Velez

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« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2007, 07:39:12 AM »
ok
    today makes 3 months for me i am scared to go get tested now for fear of it being positive weird things have been happening to me like the lymps swellen up and the tiredness i am really wondering if i test will it be positive please advis here my 8 week test was negative but the more i read the more it says hey i may be i dont know what to do

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« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2007, 08:23:02 AM »
That's ok, you can go and get tested even when you're scared. Cut out all of the drama. You've been dragging this scene out for weeks and weeks.

Your negative result is virtually a slam dunk at this point. Instead are you going to wring your hands, torture yourself and keep asking us what we think?

Go go get tested and collect your negative result.
Andy Velez

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« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2007, 07:21:31 AM »
ANDY ,ANN,MATTY
Guess you guys were right my 12 week was negative i knew my results 10 min after the test so goodbye there will be no more testing for me any last thoughts

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« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2007, 07:47:25 AM »
shadow,

My only last thought is to remind you to use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, in order to retain your negative hiv status. If you haven't already, read through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can avoid condom mishaps in future.

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« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2008, 03:33:09 PM »
wanted to know your opinion on the uni gold test i took it at 84 days post exposure as you know it was negative can i go on that test and continue to move on with that result

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« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2008, 03:57:58 PM »
You know the answer to that question already.

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« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2008, 04:05:41 PM »
thanks buddy

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« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2008, 04:39:01 PM »
You're HIV negative. Period. End of story.

Keep those latex condoms fresh and handy and use one everytime you have intercourse. No exceptions.

Now get busy getting on with your life. Cheers!
Andy Velez

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« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2008, 09:12:05 AM »
Hi, Ann ,Andy
                  just wanted to say hi to you guys and let you know i am doing great thanks for all the sound advice you guys gave me .I reread my post and thought dam i was a mess .I dont know what drove me to get to that point fear i guess. I stop here every now and then and read new threads here.

  I want to say to all of you who may read my post here that symptoms mean nothing only a TEST can give you your true answer stress and anxiety will cause so much damage on ones mind that you may feel every symptom they list.Never every continue reading except maybe education reasons .And remember pass on what you learn because you never know who may have the same fear as you.As most say here they have no one else to talk too.As i have found HIV education in my community is very uncommon and they dont seem to educated on the risk and testing methods.

again thanks for all you guys did to calm my fears and keep up the good work. Because whether you know it or not this is a valuable site.As Andy would say CHEERS now get busy LOL

 


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