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Offline AlanBama

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Feeling the gap
« on: July 06, 2006, 09:39:52 PM »
I suppose that is what I'm feeling -- the generation gap -- because I get frustrated when I am trying to read posts where people use "2" instead of "to" and "4" instead of "for".

(4 example: this is 2 hard 2 read !)    It always reminds me of those old high school year books where someone wrote "2 sweet 2 be 4 gotten".....I hated it then, hate it now......  would it kill ya to make one more keystroke?  It actually takes me longer to read it with the number 2 in the text, because my brain doesn't process it correctly.

I guess this is the way it is going 2 B, 4 ever.

Hugz,
Alan (who also doesn't like using a 'z' instead of an 's' )
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Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2006, 09:44:22 PM »
Alan,

I sympathise. All this internet shorthand and "1337 (leet) speek" leaves me cold too. We must be turning into cranky old queers. ;)

MtD

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2006, 10:02:22 PM »
As someone who writes, it makes me shudder to see how unintelligible netspeak has become. I don't >3 it. I don't >3 it one bit.

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Offline allopathicholistic

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2006, 10:09:51 PM »
I find it irritating and an atrocious mutilation of written English. What's the matter with kids today?  ::)


Offline AlanBama

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2006, 10:14:14 PM »
Yes, Matty dear, we're just 2 old fagz.......

I honestly can't see why people can't make one or two more keystrokes to write something legible and intelligible (is that a word?).

Luv,

Daddy-O

edited to add:  I guess it is a word, Jonathan used it so I feel comfortable with it.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2006, 10:16:15 PM by AlanBama »
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Offline AlanBama

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2006, 10:18:58 PM »
Kids!
I don't know what's wrong with these kids today!
Kids!
Who can understand anything they say?
Kids!
They are so ridiculous and immature!
I don't see why anybody wants 'em!
Just you wait and see
Kids!
Kids! They are just impossible to control!
(Soon you'll be old enough to be)
Kids! With their awful clothes and their rock an' roll!
(Another teenage delinquent)
Why can't they be like you were,
Perfect in every way?
What's the matter with kids to--
Kids!
What the devil's wrong with these kids today?
Kids!
Who could guess that they would turn out that way!
Why can't they be like we were,
Perfect in every way?
What's the matter with kids?
What's the matter with kids?
What's the matter with kids today?

(I miss having the little music notes)
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Offline jkinatl2

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2006, 10:26:40 PM »
lol @ using ME as a barometer of the language.  This whole thread goes straight to my high school guidance counselor.

:D
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Offline AlanBama

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2006, 10:38:53 PM »
Jonathan, you're the cutest barometer I know!

In truth, I can't say much about the kids..all my friends think I have fallen completely off the deep end....I've started pronouncing HIV as "hive" instead of
 H-I-V.   Therefore, I say things like "my hives sure are acting up today" or "these hives are driving me nuts"....
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Offline Val

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2006, 01:23:43 AM »
Oh, Alan dear!
How do I understand you!  And the truth is that this happens in many languages.  And you'd  better   don't even mention this fact to the kids --- let alone attempt to make them change!    Besides, kids are the easy target here, for most adults indulge on doing that as well.  And it becomes a mess!
The last time I saw some of my nephews and nieces,  we discussed about this subject.  Well, I'm afraid it has become a lost cause.  In fact, they use and abuse of two beautiful languages: Portuguese and French.  For me, the worst is what they do with French.  However, I think that perhaps a solution is is view...for I threatened not to read their garbage any longer ;D

Val
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The word comes from the Greek words φως phos ("light"), and γραφίς graphis ("stylus", "paintbrush") or γραφή graphê, together meaning "drawing with light" or "representation by means of lines".

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2006, 01:52:35 AM »
I pwn u 411 u n00b 100z3rz!!!!

MtD

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2006, 04:14:59 AM »
Alan,

No wonder you've got a bee in your bonnet... you've got hives! :D

Ann
(who also h8s internet shorthand)
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Offline Val

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2006, 04:26:50 AM »
Matty,

i pwn... :D

Val
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Richard de Chazal
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Daniel Nassoy
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Photography:
The word comes from the Greek words φως phos ("light"), and γραφίς graphis ("stylus", "paintbrush") or γραφή graphê, together meaning "drawing with light" or "representation by means of lines".

Offline DanielMark

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2006, 06:18:37 AM »
I suppose that is what I'm feeling -- the generation gap -- because I get frustrated when I am trying to read posts where people use "2" instead of "to" and "4" instead of "for".

Oh Alan, I guess I'm getting old too. Glad I'm not the only one with this pet peeve.

Another one (although I don’t see it much in these forums) is when people eliminate capitalization completely and write everything in lowercase. Other literary abominations I’ve seen include:

Aids. Aids are things that assist, like walkers or canes, or people who volunteer.

AIDS is an acronym. Acronyms are compiled from the first letter in a series of words, and are therefore written in UPPER-CASE. The one that really gets me is the misuse of apostrophes.

Aid's. What the hell is Aid’s please? That implies something belongs to Aids. Whoever that is.

B 4 it was E Z R to read things, now it's all 2 much 4 me 2 cope with.  :-*
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Offline aztecan

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2006, 09:04:57 AM »
Thank goodness I'm not the only old fart on the forums who trips up over the use of 2 and 4 rather than the appropriate words. It actually makes me stop reading and go back to process it. In the newspaper business, this would have been taboo. Of course, that was back when reporters were able to write.

Punctuation is also one of my pet peeves, although, from reading some of my own posts, you couldn't tell it.

Inappropriate use of apostrophes is a good way to get my goat. This is especially true when people use contractions or make something possessive. AID's makes no sense whatsoever. It would have to be AIDS', used as a possessive, which would logically be very difficult.

I guess I spent too many years as a writer/editor. It is too, not to, when you mean as well or also. It is you're, not your, when you mean the contraction of you are.

See, never get me started. Of course, most of the young people I know can't write a proper sentence. Come to think of it, most of the old farts can't either.

I is doomed 4ever!

HUGS,

Mark

(Who had to go back and edit his comment for errors.)
« Last Edit: July 07, 2006, 09:08:37 AM by aztecan »
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Offline allopathicholistic

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2006, 09:25:15 AM »
Oh yeah, and

their = Their house is painted blue
there = The dog is there, on the lawn
they're = They're planning to send their kids to private school

... Ughhh

Another thing that irks me is the misuse of e.g. versus i.e. It's proper to say "off-white", i.e., the color that resembles white but isn't pure white. Or "off-white", e.g., ecru, cream, vanilla. One explains with different words, the other gives examples.

DanielMark: Sometimes you'll see "aide" as in home health aide (home care nurse) ... But who cares right? Bad spellers certainly don't  :D

Offline Bartro

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2006, 09:54:54 AM »
I remember when I was a kid.  My mom ate these little chocolate caramels for weight loss.  I ate one once and was worried, because I was so thin, that I would waste away to nothing.  The product was called the "Aids" weight loss plan.  Hmmm, wonder if they are still in business.
Rusty

Offline Christine

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2006, 10:42:49 AM »
Add me to the list. I have to read the post really slowly just to understand it. Drives me nuts. And don't get me started on text messaging with the phone...Why don't they just pick up the phone and talk to the person? And how do they text so fast with those damn little buttons? Which I can't see without my reading glasses.

MtD- What does this mean?? I pwn u 411 u n00b 100z3rz!!!!

ohh...I am turning into my Mother....
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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2006, 10:58:30 AM »
Add me to the geezer list. I won't read those posts. It is true that many of the offenders here are not kids. Maybe it takes a split second more to add a couple of keystrokes, but I cannot find any good justification for it.
.....Can't we all just spell things the normal way?
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Offline AlanBama

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2006, 11:37:42 AM »
L no!
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Offline allanq

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2006, 01:18:52 PM »
On the subject of unneeded apostrophes, how about using "it's" for "its"?

It's is a contraction of "it is" or "it has." 
Examples:
It's a nice day.
It's been raining

Its is the possessive form of "it."
Examples:
Every dog has its day.
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/Edited to correct a grammatical error!
« Last Edit: July 07, 2006, 03:43:29 PM by allanq »
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Offline RapidRod

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2006, 02:26:45 PM »
Bartro, my mother had those. I ate one and it not only took my weight, it gave me the real meaning to Aids. Damn I wish she was still alive, I would blamed her, for having those Aids around the house. I can tell you one thing, once you ate one, you didn't eat another.  ;)

Offline whizzer

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2006, 06:00:47 PM »
The diet candy was actually spelled AYDS.  They were quite poplular in the 70s and early 80s.

Their commercials now provide quite a giggle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UtUpPDuMfk

Offline DanielMark

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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2006, 06:14:21 PM »
What does this mean?? I pwn u 411 u n00b 100z3rz

Christine,

I'm pretty sure that means "has three nipples" in Martian. You just have to be fluent in the language.  ;D :-*
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Re: Feeling the gap
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2006, 06:43:36 PM »
I love the line in the ad: "Why take diet pills, when you can enjoy AYDS?"
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