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Offline milker

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cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« on: October 18, 2007, 02:01:42 PM »
New results:

CD4% 24
CD4 count: 353
VL: 29983
CD4/CD8: 0.41

I am pleased that the VL hasn't gone awry, I was a bit nervous about that, the CD4 count trend is going down but it's been 432,399,403,353 and I had been binging the day before the labs (not very smart I agree). The % is going down, but there is no real concern for now. I am happy that the CD8 have not gone mad, they're lower than the previous test, that was another area I wanted to see kept in control.

I got the flu shot, but no pneumonia shot, he said it was not necessary. You may have seen my post about my brother in law's pneumonia and he said that he shouldn't be infectious more than 2 weeks after starting recovery, so seeing him in december should be fine, as long as he doesn't get sick again.

He mentioned strong warnings about Chantix, I will post about that in the Chantix thread later.

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

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Offline keyite

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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2007, 03:12:57 PM »
Sounds relatively stable to me, although I know that 'sinking' feeling can be a bit upsetting. Still, I'm living proof numbers can jump around, and I'm trying hard to stop reading too much into them. Sounds like you're getting used to that reality too.

Did your doc say why he thought the pneumonia jab is unnecessary?

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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2007, 05:05:38 PM »
The shot for pneumonia is not given EVERY year.
From another thread:
Quote:  Quote from: philly267 on September 20, 2007, 11:22:01 AM
There's also a pneumonia shot that I believe is given once and then maybe a 2nd time several years later.  I'd ask about that one too.  Maybe someone here can weight in.


I believe you are referring to the Pneumovax vaccine that should be given every 5 yrs to HIV+ folks.

I will definately be getting my flu shot -- as soon as I find a clinic.

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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2007, 05:52:44 PM »
Did your doc say why he thought the pneumonia jab is unnecessary?
There was no risk of exposure unless he was becoming sick again, and my cd4s are high enough. For the flu shot there was no hesitation.

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2007, 06:04:48 PM »
sweetie

these numbers are fine.
Of course your VL would benefit from meds, but with that T count I would not worry.

I stated meds with a T cell count of 9 and viral load in the millions.

And I still made it to SFO to hug you baby....


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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2007, 06:06:46 PM »
And I still made it to SFO to hug you baby....


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mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2007, 06:12:25 PM »
There was no risk of exposure unless he was becoming sick again, and my cd4s are high enough. For the flu shot there was no hesitation.

Curious and a bit confusing how doctors seem to approach this so differently. Elsewhere I get the impression that Pneumovax (much like the flu jab) is regarded as 'standard of care' for HIV+ patients, regardless of how high your CD4 count might be or any specific risk of exposure:
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100003080.html

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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2007, 06:55:09 PM »
Hey sweetie, your counts are alright.  Just take a deep breath. 

I am going to click on the Chantix thread to see what your doctor told you.  I've been on it for a month and a half and haven't had any problems with it yet.  And I've not been warned about it.  I sure would like to hear what your doctor said.
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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2007, 07:16:42 PM »
Curious and a bit confusing how doctors seem to approach this so differently. Elsewhere I get the impression that Pneumovax (much like the flu jab) is regarded as 'standard of care' for HIV+ patients, regardless of how high your CD4 count might be or any specific risk of exposure:
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100003080.html
True, I asked him if he was sure and he confirmed he just wanted me to take the flu shot. I don't know if previous problems I've had like Rheumatic Fever or other exams make him want to wait.

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2007, 10:04:18 PM »
Thanks Betty,

I was actually ecstatic in the car coming back home because the VL didn't go bad. I'm getting prepared to start meds around 2008, adherence is my fear, I have forgotten to take my vitamins many times, but then again it's another level so I am sure I will pay attention.

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2007, 10:07:03 PM »
Milker, those numbers are still overall and the changes are certainly not precipitous.

What I'm wondering is what you mean by "binging" because it sounds like something you think is not good for your health. Clarify if you want to...


Andy Velez

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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2007, 10:10:33 PM »
They don't look too bad Milker. Take care buddy. ;D
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
Jan 14 CD=521 (21%)/VL=UD(<50)

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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2007, 10:11:39 PM »
Milker, those numbers are still overall and the changes are certainly not precipitous.

What I'm wondering is what you mean by "binging" because it sounds like something you think is not good for your health. Clarify if you want to...



I still have an alcoholism problem and we discussed this today with the doctor, who wants to work on the smoking first, in January when I'm back from vacation. When I took Chantix the drinking went down dramatically as well, so I'm hoping his plan will help. I appreciate you noting this, Andy.

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2007, 10:23:17 PM »
True, I asked him if he was sure and he confirmed he just wanted me to take the flu shot. I don't know if previous problems I've had like Rheumatic Fever or other exams make him want to wait.

Milker.

I had Rheumatic Fever when I was 10 yrs old and I still have to take antibiotics before going to the dentist.  I took the Pneumovax shot pretty much at the same time I started meds but I don't remember if I've taken a booster shot in the past 7 years (I don't think I have  ??? ).


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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2007, 10:48:23 PM »
I had Rheumatic Fever when I was 10 yrs old and I still have to take antibiotics before going to the dentist.  I took the Pneumovax shot pretty much at the same time I started meds but I don't remember if I've taken a booster shot in the past 7 years (I don't think I have  ??? ).


Rich
Interesting, poz, I will ask him. I too have to take antibiotics before going to the dentist and everytime I sneeze, which is rare (sneezing)

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

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Re: cd4 slowly going down, VL in sync
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2007, 10:49:02 PM »
Curious and a bit confusing how doctors seem to approach this so differently. Elsewhere I get the impression that Pneumovax (much like the flu jab) is regarded as 'standard of care' for HIV+ patients, regardless of how high your CD4 count might be or any specific risk of exposure:
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100003080.html

My doc told me pneumovax avery 5 years for those with HIV.  Why take a chance I say.
Apr 28/06 cd4 600 vl 10,600 cd% 25
Nov 8/09 cd4 510 vl 49,5000 cd% 16
Jan 16/10 cd4 660 vl 54,309 cd% 16
Feb 17/10 Started Atripla
Mar 7/10 cd4 710 vl 1,076 cd% 21
Apr 18/10 cd4 920 vl 268 cd% 28
Jun 19/10 cd4 450 vl 60 cd% 25
Aug 15/10 cd4 680 vl 205 cd% 27
Apr 3/11 cd4 780 vl <40 cd% 30
Jul 17/11 cd4 960 vl <40 cd%33
April 15/12 cd4 1,010 vl <40 cd% 39
April 20/12 Switched to Viramune + Truvada
Aug 2/12 cd4 1040, vl <40, cd% 38
Oct 19 cd4 1,110 vl <40 cd% 41

 


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