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Offline Alefou

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Completly scared
« on: October 01, 2007, 06:36:51 PM »
Well first of all thank a lot for this forum witch is very helpfull for people paranoide like me and please forgive me for my english cause i'm french and not very used to it

Well i'm very scared because of two risk i have taken :
                      - The first one i was with a guy for a night , we kiss eachother , i suck him and he suck me without ejaculation and he fingered me for about 1 mn
                      - The second which scared me more more than the 1st was when i was with a guy , we didn't do anything exept frootage or rubbing and then i think that he could perhaps had penetrate me without i noticed it because his penis was very close to my anus and he tried to enter , i'm used to anal penetration and even with lub it's always hurt me in the beginning but his penis was not very big and perhaps he could have enter the head of his penis for 10-20 seconds , i Asked him about that , he told that we have done nothing and that i have serious mental issues and i should go see a therapist , he also said that he will get tested on the next friday but it was not my businness , since he don't want to talk to me anymore

I'm very scared to have been contaminated , do you thinkg i'm overreacting? What are my chance to be infected?

Thanks a lot for your answer
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2007, 07:35:09 PM »
You would have known if you would have be penetrated. You were never at risk in the situation you provided.

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2007, 08:45:40 PM »
I know that for you i'm not at risk but i have read reading in the "I Just test +" forum and many people are sure that they never had dangerous sex and are contaminated so i'm still worring about my risk... My last test last of Mi August and it was negative but i'm really scared
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2007, 09:08:13 PM »
You didn't have a risk. It's not advisible to go to "I Just Tested POZ" because it has nothing to do with you.

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2007, 09:23:08 PM »
Nothing you have described suggests you were at any risk for HIV transmission during these incidents.

So yes, you are worrying yourself needlessly. If you go shopping for things to worry about whether on this site or elsewhere on the net, believe me you are going to find plenty to unnecessarily feed your fears with. Stop now!

We always recommend that anyone who's regularly active sexually ought to at least annually have a full STD panel done. So if it's been more than a year for you then by all means do a full test, collect the inevitable HIV negative result and get on with your life.

This is not an HIV situation as far as I can tell.

Cheers,

Andy Velez

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2007, 10:47:20 PM »
I know that for you i'm not at risk but i have read reading in the "I Just test +" forum and many people are sure that they never had dangerous sex and are contaminated so i'm still worring about my risk... My last test last of Mi August and it was negative but i'm really scared

This is actually quite a sore subject with me.

Thing is, this part of the forums was designed as a courtesy for those worried about HIv infection, who needed a place for the most accurate risk assessment based on current first-tiered scientific data.

This SITE, however, is a place for those infected with HIV. It is one of the few safer places in the world where people, scared, sick, sad, and pissed off, can commiserate, exchange ideas and knowledge, without being gawked at like circus animals.

When a worried well trawls the other forums (and I am grateful beyond words when they do not actually completely lose control and post there) it breaks that trust. It is something you should be ashamed of.

When people are recently infected, they often come to these forums with no more knowledge of HIV than anyone without HIV. They are ashamed. They are terrified. They might have spent their entire lives considering HIv infected people to be dirty, unclean, and base. And then they find themselves on the other side of that barrier, forever.

People do NOT want to admit – or proclaim in a public forum – that they had unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Especially with all the baggage that comes from their pre-infection bias, combined with the trauma of a life changing/shattering event. This is one of the reasons that patient report is so unreliable. Only later, sometimes MUCH later, can a person feel comfortable enough with themselves and others to disclose their real risk.

And the thing is, in a forum such as this? It’s not important at all. We move forward here, in these forums. If someone needs to deceive themselves or others in order to function, to think that they were “good” people, then so be it. Deconstructing a person’s psychology is not the function of a support forum for this dreadful disease.

The scientific information is there. Is is in the LESSONS section. If and when a person is ready, they will come to terms with the circumstances of their infection.

Would you rather that moderators step in on those forums, and call these newly infected people out on the legitimate vectors for transmission? Would you rather have the forum isolate and ostracize vulnerable, sometimes nearly suicidal people at the lowest perceived point in their lives? In order to make certain that no layperson, practicing the basest form of voyeurism on those forums, is unsatisfied?

That is a selfish and insensitive attitude, and it is one of my pet peeves.

You were obviously not aware that this behaviour is inappropriate, or you would never have admitted to it on this thread. Please stand corrected in that regard.

Trawling the forums looking for fuel with which to perpetuate your fear is preying on the weak. And it is not acceptable.


« Last Edit: October 01, 2007, 10:51:25 PM by jkinatl2 »
"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2007, 10:49:14 PM »
Even if he had enter the head of his penis for 10-20 seconds ???
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2007, 10:55:25 PM »
Being entered by the head of a penis is called "Dipping" by HIv science. And it is theorized that such behaviour accounts for a good deal of infections.

A condom is useful only so long as it is actually worn.  While the risk for dipping might be very very small, it is by no means zero. Pre-ejaculate fluids, under the right conditions, can indeed infect. And people do not always know that they are expelling these fluids.

Wear a condom from start to finish, and you will avoid these concerns in the future.

PS: The head of the penis is normally larger than the shaft. Had he entered you, you would have been made well aware. However, for someone who is obviously quite concerned about HIv infection, it would behoove you to insist that he put on the condom BEFORE the head of his penis came close to your anus. Not after.


"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2007, 11:27:19 PM »
yes we didn't use any lub and he didn't prepare me with saliva or anything else so i think i should have had pain if he had enter the head of his penis....
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2007, 04:52:28 AM »
Ale,

By your own admission, you experience pain upon being anally entered, at least at first. Why should this time be any different?

You didn't have a risk. Make sure condoms are being used before any penetration takes place and you'll be just fine where hiv is concerned.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2007, 07:33:21 PM »
Hi everyone it's me again

First of all i would like to thank you for your advices that make me feel a little better even if i know that only a test can make me feel beter.
Morover, exactly 18 days after this problem i felt sick , a bad cold whith muscle pain, runny nose,cought and throat pain. No fever(sometimes 100°F but not more) and no rash but this really scared me a lot because i can't belive that this is a coincidence....
I get tested today , 23 days after the encouter ,and i will have the results on friday; i know that the test will not be completly accurate but it will give an indication

Thanks for your help
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline Andy Velez

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2007, 08:36:04 PM »
Your symptoms have nothing to do with HIV. Discuss them with your doctor.

As you should also know by now neither the presence nor the absence of symptoms will ever tell you anything accurately about your HIV status. If you have had a real risk -- which you have not! -- then an HIV test is the only way to get your answer. And that should be done at 13 weeks after the event.

But as I said, you haven't had a risk no matter what your mind is saying to you differently about it.
Andy Velez

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2007, 12:21:39 AM »
Hi,

I come back with a new story....
First of all i would like to say that my 3 weeks test was negative but here is not the problem
2 days ago i went out with a friend, we finished completly drunk and i went to his house to sleep
I was drunk and still consicent and i remember that i was always aware of safe sex because of all hapened to me ...
But anyway i didn't want to have sex but he came to me , he kissed me and licked my anus a lot. He wanted to penetrate me but i make him understood not doing it .After about 10 mn i felt sick because of the alchool and i went to the bathroom , when i came back i was too tired and i went to the bed and slept about 10 mn after
the fact is , is it possible that i had a black out and that i didn't fall asleep but had anal sex? I know it sounds strange but well the morning i wook up normally whith no anal pain or anything else.
I asked him if we had done anything he told me that no penetration occurs and he told me than even if he tried it was just for knowing if i wanted too because he had condoms near him according to him.
Well is it possible to remember only a part of the night because of the alcool? and that i didn't remember having anal sex?
I know that mix between alccol and sex is dangerous but i was too tired to came back and drive so i decided to sleep in his house....
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline Ann

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2007, 04:51:34 AM »
Ale,

If you're going to freak out and imagine somebody penetrated you anally every time you passed out, maybe you'd be better off giving alcohol a miss.

You'd know if you'd been penetrated. If you cannot stop scaring yourself with your own drink-fueled imagination, then perhaps it's time you saw a counselor. We cannot help you with that here.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2007, 08:09:18 PM »
I really hope you re right.....because i can't get this out of my head... perhaps i had a blackout and i thought that i was sleeping....or perhaps he had penetrated me during i was assleep....
« Last Edit: October 26, 2007, 08:20:14 PM by Alefou »
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2007, 09:10:49 PM »
As you've been told you would have known if you had been penetrated. As Ann has told you that we can not
help you with your imaginations.

Offline Alefou

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Question
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2007, 06:43:37 PM »
Hello,

I have a question. It's been a long time that i did not be the active personne whit a guy and i was wondering can the penis entered the anus of someone esaily or it takes some time?
i had an encouter yesterday, i kept my underwear on me and him too but my underwear was wide ( like his underwear) and i wonder if my penis could have came outside my underwear and be in contact with his anus because there was really high frottage and his was on me so i couldn't see my underwear all the time

Thanks
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2007, 06:46:56 PM »
Please keep all your additional thoughts, questions and comments in your original thread. This helps us to follow your story and give you the most accurate advice.

If you can't find you original thread click on the red link I've provided above. Alternatively you can click on the "show own posts" link in the left hand column of any forums page.

Your questions will not be answered until you return to your original thread.

MtD

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2007, 06:51:41 PM »
Hello,

I have a question. It's been a long time that i did not be the active personne whit a guy and i was wondering can the penis entered the anus of someone esaily or it takes some time?
i had an encouter yesterday, i kept my underwear on me and him too but my underwear was wide ( like his underwear) and i wonder if my penis could have came outside my underwear and be in contact with his anus because there was really high frottage and his was on me so i couldn't see my underwear all the time

Thanks
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2007, 06:59:28 PM »
Stick your finger up your butt and tell me, did you know that you had your finger up you butt?

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2007, 08:06:20 PM »
yes i know but i have felt something strange during the frottage it's for that...
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2007, 08:13:16 PM »
Al,

What we're trying to say is that when someone fucks you in the butt, you know about it.

Believe me.

MtD

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2007, 08:15:38 PM »
Yes but my question is not if i have been fucked but if i have fuck him lol
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2007, 08:41:35 PM »
Well work it out then kid. Don't you think you'd know if you shoved your dick up another persons butt? I've done it many times and I've always known it.

I don't know if you've already been told, but we don't put up with people posting endlessly about non-risk situations, which is what you're doing. You weren't at risk of HIV infection and that's been explained to you time and time again.

Keep going and you'll be reported to the Moderators.

MtD

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2007, 08:46:19 PM »
Well i know that i have a problem... a big problem who makes my life very dificult...
The fact is that i cannot thinks anything else that my encouters and everytime i find a way to worrie myself even if i keep my underwear on me
I really want to find a solution to my problem because my life become horible... im not even able to work correctly because of that
Do you think that a terapist could help me? or anything else....
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2007, 08:49:20 PM »
Al,

If these issues are disrupting your life to the point that your work is affected, then yes you should talk to a therapist.

Please understand that we cannot provide you with that kind of support.

MtD

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2007, 09:24:44 PM »
Alef, I have merged your threads. Please keep all of your comments or questions in this same thread.

As with your previous concern, once again you are worrying about a non-existent HIV risk. Re-read the lesson on Transmission and you'll get all the basics you need to know, which is mainly that for intercourse whoever is the insertive partner needs to be wearing a condom.

You've gone one better and had you guys keeping your underwear on. There was absolutely no risk.

Your question about therapy is a good one. And my answer is "yes," I do think it would be a good idea for you to see a professional. In that setting you can discuss everything about these experiences and your feelings in a safe setting. Now that you see there's a recurrent pattern of response on your part with different people then before you have more sex that leaves you worried instead of satisfied, do some work with a professional. Hopefully that will allow you to begin to enjoy one of the great gifts of life -- a healthy sex life.

We can't help you with that issue here so get some help in the appropriate professional setting.
Andy Velez

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2007, 09:49:55 PM »
I had an encounter, no anal penetraion nethier oral sex, only deep kissing and masturbation but 2 point :
He masturbate me after he had ejaculate and i didn't saw if he had cum on his hand
I fingered myself aproximatly 5 mn after he ejaculted, and perhaps i had some cum or precum on my hand

Is it an HIV situation?

Thanks
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2007, 09:52:20 PM »
No it is not a risk. Read the lessons section on transmission. You can find the link in the "Welcome" thread.

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2007, 03:41:04 PM »
Hello,

I come here because i want to an HIV testing at my university today and they told me that they always do 2 test , one elisa and one wetern blot, i told her that i thought that the western blot was only when the Elisa test was positive and she told me no we always do the both. I know that the test is not done at the university itself but at the medical center near of it , does the nurse didn't know what she was talking about or it's usually to do a western blot always?
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2007, 07:33:14 PM »
The nurse didn't know what she was talking about. The only time a WB is done is to confirm a postive result from an antibody test.

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« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2007, 10:23:08 PM »
Oraquick test 7 week after the 1st encounter and 4 week after the 2nd encouter negative ... I hope this is encouraging
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12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
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« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2007, 10:50:26 PM »
Encouraging? Not really, you don't need to test because you were never at risk. There is nothing to be encouraged or discouraged about.

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2007, 08:57:20 AM »
A negative test result is always "encouraging." But in your case as Matty has said it's irrelevant because nothing you have reported to us put you at risk for HIV transmission.

Go ahead and keep on testing up to 13 weeks if you must for your own peace of mind. You're just going to collect another negative result. But I think you're listening to your fears rather than to what we're telling you.
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« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2008, 05:44:17 PM »
Hi,

I had a sexual encouter yesterday and I was wondering if I was at risk,
THe guy penetrate me with condom (anal) but when he put the condom on his penis, the first time it was the wrong side so it change the side of the condom and put it on his penis,
I then put lube on the condom and he penetrate me,
My question is what if some precum fluids has gone to the condom when he tried the first time to put the condom on his penis? The condom could be with some prefluids on the outside then come inside my anus...

Am I At risk??

Thanks
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
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« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2008, 06:34:25 PM »
If you can please answer me... I'm still in the 24 hour period and I would like to know If I should go to the emergency or not....

Thanks
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12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
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« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2008, 06:35:06 PM »
No it not a risk. Seek professional mental help for your HIV phobia.

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« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2008, 06:44:01 PM »
I'm scared because in every website, they say that if the condoms is put on backward, we must change it... So why they would say that if there were no risk?
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
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« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2008, 06:53:43 PM »
Quit searching the Internet.

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« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2008, 07:07:13 PM »
Ale,

They tell you to change it because UNLIKE hiv, some of the bacterial infections can be transmitted in this way. Fortunately, hiv is VERY fragile and quickly becomes damaged and unable to infect when it finds itself outside the human body.

You did NOT have a risk for hiv and you certainly do NOT need to go for emergency treatment.

No risk, no test.

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« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2008, 07:34:17 PM »
Thanks a lot Ann,

I know my questions can seems stupid but you're always here to answer to it,

Just wanted to thank you for what you are doing on this forum,

Thanks a lot
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
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« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2008, 08:00:04 PM »
Ok I ask the question in the medhelp website, and a doctor answer me (I had to pay for it) and here is answer :

"The protection provided by condom use is reduced when they are not properly used.  In the exposure you describe, the condom was not used and, as a result, it may have been had some of his pre-ejaculatory fluid on the outside after it was removed and put back on.  There is some risk associated with this.  Depending on whether  he was HIV infected or not, this would put you at a modest risk (approximately 1 out of 100 exposures is the average figure if he was infected).  The best and most direct way to assess your risk is to find out his HIV status.  If this is not possible, testing is reasonable.  the results will mean relatively little for you until at least 4-6 weeks following your exposure.  EWH"

What should I DO??????
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
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« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2008, 08:07:06 PM »
Ale,

Do what you want. There is no way that any hiv virus that MIGHT have been on the condom would have remained intact and able to infect after not only being outside of the body, but having lube smeared on it. You did NOT have a risk. You do NOT need emergency treatment and you don't even need to test over this incident.

You will NOT be allowed to use this forum to go on and on about this NO RISK event. Please consider yourself warned.

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« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2008, 12:03:19 PM »
Hello everyone,

I think this a really a risk situation and I don't know how to deal with,
Yesterday night I had sex with a random guy,
We used condom for the penetration (i'm bottom) and I put the condom on him. I checked the condom 2 or 3 times to make sure it was on it and it was ok. But 5 mn after I jerck okk and he pulled out his penis for that. After I finished jercking off, the condom was not anymore in his penis. I think it was on his hand but I'm not sure.
I asked him what happen and he told me that he just removed it cause I was cumming. But i'm so scared that he removed it before without I knew it/
THe fact is that I asked him before we had sex if he would done it without condom (I wanted to test him) and his response was vage and I think he would have done it without. He told me that he is scared about HIV and he's negative (I asked him before the intercourse). I really don't know what to do, do you think I should go to the ER to get a PEP?
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2008, 06:57:00 PM »
Hello,

I had sex like 2hour ago with a guy. I was the receptive partner and we used protection all times. He ejaculated inside the condom when he was in me then he stayed inside for like 2 minutes waiting for me to ejaculate. After I ejaculate, I removed the condom from him and I saw that there was some cum on the top of the condom 5still inside the condom but very close to the exit). I'm scared that some of this cum could have went out of the condom and enter in my anus during the 2-3 minutes after he ejaculated. The condom was in perfect condition and didn't break. SHould I go to the emergency ?
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2008, 07:59:02 PM »
You didn't have a risk. You had protected sex.

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« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2008, 02:28:24 AM »
Hi,

I'm extremmly worried. Exactly 9 days ago, I had recepetive anal sex with a condom and oral sex without a condom. I remember to have checked one or two times during the sex if the condom was still here and it was the case. The thing is at the end ( he did not ejaculate but I wanted to stop), he remove himself . I did not look when he removed the condom, so I cannot say if it was not broken. I even ask him if he removed it at the end and he told me that of course he just removed it (and it was in his hand). I must say also that before having sex, I asked him if he was STD free which he confirms to me by saying that he doesn't play with his life and he was tested a few month ago. This morning when I wake up, I felt muscle and joint pain everywhere and especially in my legs and I was cold in my bed. I decided to take my temperature which was 100.3 (Anal). I know it's not a high fever but it's  fever for me since im always around 98° immediatly when I wake up. I have absolutly no other symptoms (sore throat, runny nose ...) but only fever and that's why I'm so worried .... Perhaps my fever will increase soon but I don't know what I have. Do you think it could be ARS Symptoms?

Thanks a lot
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
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« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2008, 04:57:03 AM »
Had the condom failed you would have known. You didn't have a risk. You had protected sex. I believe you have been coming to the forum enough to know.  http://www.medhelp.org/user_posts/list/283472?personal_page_id=92356
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« Reply #48 on: December 27, 2008, 09:30:29 AM »
I know ... BUt still I now have a fever of 101°F all the time. And the timing with my last sexual experience is very strange. And I only have fever which never happened to me before (Usually I have sore throat or something else).
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
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« Reply #49 on: December 27, 2008, 09:38:47 AM »
There are no "Buts." See your doctor if you have a concern. It has nothing to do with HIV.

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« Reply #50 on: December 31, 2008, 05:49:35 AM »
5 days now that I have continous fever (101°) with absolutly no amelioration. night sweet, nausea, muscle and joint pain. No rash or respiratory symptoms. Only this fever ... And i'm freaking out because fever with no other symptoms is typical of ARS .... Doctor told me it's a virus ... But it just last too long and it's so different that other disease that I had that I really feel bad
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
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« Reply #51 on: December 31, 2008, 05:57:59 AM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2009, 01:45:16 AM »
I just tested positive with oraquick test.... I'm just completly confused ... I had fever 9 days after my exposure ... It went out after one week...Then 1 week after I had a rash that was itching a lot... I had to go to emergency since it was itching too much (arms and feet). I had an oraquick test at 25 days which was negative. Tonight I got tested with oraquick (39 days after exposure) and the result came back positive. They took a sample for the confirmatary test and I will Have the result in one week ... But I don'tundersand, everything was protected... I'm just under everything and completly confused .....
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12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
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« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2009, 04:39:11 AM »
Not from the exposure you posted above, you didn't have a risk. And for your information rashes with HIV don't itch.

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« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2009, 04:47:27 AM »
Man ... How could you answer me like that ... I don't know if this rash was due to HIV or not. But the only thing I'm sure is that the only exposure that I had was with this guy. And I got tested positive tonight with a negative test 2 weeks ago. I'm completly confused and really don't understand ... My sister told me it's probably a false positive but the nurse told me it's 99 % accurate. I just can't wait 1 week for the confirmatory result ... i'm completly under everything and don't understand what happen to me ...
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
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« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2009, 05:01:39 AM »
One or two things have happened. Either you lied about having protected sex or you had sex again that has nothing to do with your above siuation. If you had protected sex then the test would have to be a false positive. You do not contract HIV from correctly and consistently use of a condom.

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« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2009, 05:19:07 AM »
I can swear than I didn't had unprotected sex. I just called the guy with who it happens and it told me it was protected. And I didn't had any sex with any other guy before. I'm not lying or trying to say things which are not true. I'm just completly confused and I really don't understand what happen.
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2009, 05:22:56 AM »
You've been coming here long enough to know that you received a false positive if you continue to claim to have had protected sex.

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« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2009, 06:02:21 AM »
Ale,

False positives can and do happen. That's likely the case here.

A word of warning - do NOT post in the other sections of these forums until and unless you get confirmation by Western Blot of your positive result. I don't expect that to happen.

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« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2009, 05:36:20 PM »
Thanks Ana for your comment,

A doctor on Medhelp forum told it's likely that I'm positive given all the information I gave. I Just don't know where to find myself. Should I keep hope that this a trully false positive ? I just don't beleive it when I see thqt the nurse told me it was 99% accurate. I want to go to antoher oraquick test today but i'm not sure if it's the good solution
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #60 on: January 25, 2009, 05:49:27 PM »
You have 3 posts on the expert forum at MedHelp and not one of those doctors told you were likely positive.

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« Reply #61 on: January 25, 2009, 05:54:27 PM »
Answer from today :

"I'm very sorry to hear this.  As nursegirl already said, the rapid tests like Oraquick can be falsely positive.  Putting together all the information, it sounds likely you are infected, but it isn't yet definite.  It is possible to unofficially confirm positive rapid test result by just having another ELISA test, using a different test than Oraquick.  This could settle the issue without waiting a week for the Western blot result.  For example, if a standard lab-based test or another rapid test (e.g., Unigold brand, and others), it would make it almost certain you are infected.  It's not quite as definite as a WB, but you would know with near certainty without having to wait a whole week.

Most likely your partner wasn't lying but had a very recent HIV infection itself, which is the time of maximum infectivity for partners.  I won't try to surmise the exact mechanism by which you were infected (if you were), i.e. anal despite condom, oral, or some other secretion exposure.

Assuming you are infected, it is critical that you immediately get care from a provider who who is an expert in HIV/AIDS, such as an infectious diseases specialist or other highly experienced professional or clinic.  If your current provider or clinic doesn't meet that standard, please ask for a referral.

If not yet done, if and when your infection is confirmed immediately inform your partner from last month what is going on so he can be tested and protect his own health and that of other partners. (Or you could call him now, without awaiting your confirmatory test result.)  If you don't know exactly who he is or how to find him, please call your local health department, if they don't call you first, and cooperate with them in locating and informing him.  Second, most likely you have not been sexually active with anyone else since your December exposure.  If you have, however, immediately inform that (or those) partner(s).

As you know, and as emphasized by nursegirl, having HIV isn't as dire as it once was, with modern drug therapy under the care of an expert.  Above all, don't panic.  If your positive result is confirmed, your life will change in dramatic ways, but with proper management it can still be a long, productive, enjoyable, and even thrilling life.

If your infection is confirmed, you're going to have a hundred more questions.  Although I can be available to answer one or two brief ones, this forum doesn't get into advice for HIV infected persons.  The HIV/AIDS expert you connect with is going to be the primary source for medical advice, and s/he or that clinic will be able to put you in touch with social and support services you might need.  Your local health department may also be able to facilitate referrals to both expert providers and support services. "
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #62 on: January 25, 2009, 06:02:05 PM »
Quote the post. I work on MedHelp and I don't see any such post to you from any doctor.

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« Reply #63 on: January 25, 2009, 06:12:43 PM »
"Worried about symptoms" by DLRP1985, Dr handsfiled
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12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
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« Reply #64 on: January 25, 2009, 06:16:28 PM »
Yes I found it but he only said what he said because that you stated your were positive. Read all the replies that were given you before you said you tested positive. He gave you the same information that we have given you. That you didn't have a risk from protected sex.

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« Reply #65 on: January 25, 2009, 09:03:19 PM »
A little update. I went to another oraquick test this afternoon. The test came back positive but I show the lines. The control line was really read and big and the test line was really faint. I ask him if it happen often and he told that a rarely saw a line like this which was faint. I mean the line was clearly here when you looked, but when you are at a distance, you only see the control line. This doctor told me to wait next week for WB results but he also told me that he only saw 1 false positive in 5 years .....
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #66 on: January 26, 2009, 06:47:56 AM »
Ale,

We've seen plenty of false positive results here. I fully expect yours to be another, unless you've been having unprotected intercourse you neglected to mention.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #67 on: January 26, 2009, 11:59:42 AM »
Hi Ann,

Thanks a lot for your support. I read some of your post on the forum when you said the a "faint" line especially at 6 weeks is not positive ... The doctor advise me to take an EIA blood test to be sure before I wait for the WB results.
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #68 on: January 26, 2009, 01:20:40 PM »
And also I just found this research document : http://www.retroconference.org/2008/PDFs/534.pdf

In this document, it's written that 100 % of people with "faint" line or test line fainter that the control line were negative. They say also that people with those faint line should be said that they are preliminary positive but it suggest an HIV negative result.

I don't know if I should beleive all that, i'm scared to have hope then finnaly to have a confirmatory result positive ...
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #69 on: January 26, 2009, 01:48:53 PM »
You don't have any faint lines to worry about when you go for your confirmative test result.

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2009, 03:49:30 PM »
two eslisa blood test positive ...
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2009, 06:46:27 PM »
ELISA test is not a confirmative test.

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« Reply #72 on: January 30, 2009, 07:08:15 AM »
Ale,

You need to confirm with a Western Blot test.

Unless you've engaged in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse you've not told us about, I doubt very much that you're positive.

Ann
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« Reply #73 on: January 30, 2009, 08:11:05 AM »
Ann,

I'm waiting for the WB for tuesday. I'm not trying to scare anyone to this forum. It's really not my point here. Probably the condom broke or the person remove it. That's the only way I can see that.I know have 3 different test positive and even if I know that only the WB will give a conclusive result, odds are greatly for my contamination like the doctor told me.  As you know from my precedent posts, i was very scared with that. I would never have put myself at risk. I was paranoid about HIV and I think you can see that by reading my precedent experiences.  I talk to that with my doctor. He had the same reaction than you so what you say everyone is true. My case is just incredibly not understanding for me  and that's why it's even more difficult because as far as I know from my side, every anal sex was protected, oral was unprotected but never receive ejaculation in my mouth. I have an appointment with an HIV specialist on Tuesday. On the meantime, I have tested today for a viroal load and a CD4 count (and a repeat  double ELISA test because it's the procedure here to make sure that sample were not exchanged). Again, I want to say to everyone, that doctors told me that anal sex with condom and oral sex is safe. But you must understand that someone in my case, which were told all that, is very confused right now.
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #74 on: January 30, 2009, 08:34:25 AM »
Ale,

If you do end up testing positive with the WB test, well, you won't be the first person who ended up positive because the other person removed the condom.

However. I've just reviewed your posts and I really do think you've had false positive results. There are certain conditions, such as an underlying autoimmune disease, that can cause repeated false positives on the ELISA tests. That's one of the reasons a positive ELISA must be confirmed with a WB. If your WB result is negative (which I expect it to be) you need to see a doctor to be screened for autoimmune diseases. It is possible to have some of these without knowing.

Good luck.

Ann
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« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2009, 08:51:19 AM »
Ann,

I justed wanted to add something. I looked at all the test that the doctor ask me to do. There is a test called CPR (C Reactive protein). I looked on the internet to look what it was, and I find out that it's a test to detect autoimmune disorders. So I think my doctor had the same idea than you ... We will see ...
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2009, 08:54:58 AM »
Ale,

It sounds like your doctor is a good one who knows his stuff. I can't tell you how refreshing that is to hear in this forum - too many doctors are ignorant when it comes to all things hiv.

Again, good luck. If it does turn out to be an autoimmune problem, I hope it's one of the easier ones to deal with. Hang in there.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #77 on: February 02, 2009, 03:11:45 PM »
Hi,

Just a little update ... Still do not received WB and viral load. I should ave that tomorrow. The repeat EIA test on Friday was positive also ( which makes 5 positive test now) ... Not really a good sign ...  The doctor received my CRP which is normal (no auto immune disease) and my blood count which is also normal.

I have an appointment tomorrow with an HIV specialist ...

Thanks,
Ale
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #78 on: February 02, 2009, 04:21:49 PM »
We'll be waiting to hear, Ale -- with fingers crossed.

Cheers.
Andy Velez

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« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2009, 05:51:16 AM »
Hi,

I just got my blood count (not CD4 thought)

Leucocytes : 11800 ( NR : 4000-10000)
Poly neutro : 7434 - 63% (1700-7500)
Poly oeso : 236 - 2% (0-800)
Poly baso : 118 - 1% (0-200)
Lymphocites : 2950 - 25% (1200 - 4000)
Monocytes : 1062 - 9% (200-1000)

Is it normal to have more white cells than usual during the early course of infection ?

Thanks,
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2009, 06:20:46 AM »
Ale,

There's no way of discovering one's hiv status through regular blood tests. You're just going to have to wait for the WB results.

Sorry, but that's the way it is.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2009, 10:24:29 AM »
hi all,

WB positive with all bands... If someone could move my thread to "I just tested Poz" it would be nice ....
My CD4 count is 838 with CD4/CD8 = 0.91. Don't have VL yet ... The doctor told me that my CD4 count was completly normal and that I do not need treatment at all now.

Thanks,
Ale
« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 10:29:51 AM by Alefou »
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #82 on: February 03, 2009, 10:47:53 AM »
Ale,

I'll lock this thread. Start a new one over there.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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