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Author Topic: DHEA or Testosterone Gel  (Read 3992 times)

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Offline egello

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DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« on: October 06, 2007, 02:44:30 PM »
Hello

I am taking a class on Anatomy and Physics and the teacher mentioned something about how he give his patients DHEA first instead of giving them hormone therapy.

Anyone know anything about this? Couldn't I just take DHEA and let my body naturally create the testosterone ?

Thanks
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Offline MitchMiller

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2007, 01:08:04 AM »
Although I've never taken testosterone, I've taken DHEA for about 10 years.  I don't believe you could compare the effectiveness of DHEA to testosterone.  The gay doc on TheBody.com rails about how DHEA should be controlled... and you should use Androgel instead.  He seems to think DHEA would cause the same side-effects of testosterone.  However, I've had none ever.  In fact, I question whether it does much of anything... but, like a lot of supplements, I still take it.

Offline Suntropic98

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2007, 08:52:44 AM »
Go with Testosterone injections. Specifically Enanthate. The side-effects are minimal, in my case at least, and the results are amazing. It is a slow acting test so it takes about 5-6 weeks to kick in but you will not be dissappointed. I've taken 9000mg this week alone. If you need a website to order test E (or anything period ranging from fat loss to bulking to cutting to genital warts) I have a site you can get it from and it's 100% legit. PM me.

Offline kevinamsterdam

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2007, 08:59:04 AM »
What symptoms are you taking this stuff for?

Offline Dachshund

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2007, 09:29:46 AM »
Hello

I am taking a class on Anatomy and Physics and the teacher mentioned something about how he give his patients DHEA first instead of giving them hormone therapy.

Anyone know anything about this? Couldn't I just take DHEA and let my body naturally create the testosterone ?

Thanks

Before you take advice over the internet or purchase ANYTHING over the internet you should address your concerns with your doctor.

Offline anniebc

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2007, 05:02:43 AM »
Hi Mitch

I agree with Dachshund, talk to your doctor first, the problem when buying stuff over the internet is you don't really know who you are dealing or what you are buying..it could be money wasted.

Please talk to your Doctor and stay away from Sites you know nothing about, what may work for some may not work for others.

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Offline trellium

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2007, 06:13:12 AM »
Taking DHEA alone when you have hypogonadism (low testosterone) is gonna do squat to your testosterone level.  You'll be better off taking the testosterone gel / patch / pill / shot.
DHEA requires 2 steps of conversion to become testosterone:

DHEA --> Androstenedione --> Testosterone / Estrogens

even if you mega-dose on DHEA, not much of it is gonna be converted to testosterone anyways (or worse it CAN raise estrogens levels in guys....eeep!  bitch tits....sexy not)  :o

The endocrine system tries to keep many hormones in equilibrium.  Any excess or deficiency will have cascadising effects on other hormones in your body.

Go with Testosterone injections. Specifically Enanthate. The side-effects are minimal, in my case at least, and the results are amazing. It is a slow acting test so it takes about 5-6 weeks to kick in but you will not be dissappointed. I've taken 9000mg this week alone. If you need a website to order test E (or anything period ranging from fat loss to bulking to cutting to genital warts) I have a site you can get it from and it's 100% legit. PM me.

9000mg a week of testosterone enanthate is insane.
Most Arnie-wannabes will only do up to 500 - 1000mg a week in a cycle.
I hope you (and your doctor) know what you are doing and have the proper (er....loooooong) PCT after your cycle.


Offline Suntropic98

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2007, 01:36:24 PM »

9000mg a week of testosterone enanthate is insane.
Most Arnie-wannabes will only do up to 500 - 1000mg a week in a cycle.
I hope you (and your doctor) know what you are doing and have the proper (er....loooooong) PCT after your cycle.



Believe it or not the Doc I go to I got off a list from this site, he is also what some call "Anabolic Friendly".  ;D I have enough Nolvadex and Arimidex (PCT) to last me years. My Doc knows what I'm doing.

Offline Iggy

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2007, 02:14:58 PM »

Believe it or not the Doc I go to I got off a list from this site, he is also what some call "Anabolic Friendly".  ;D I have enough Nolvadex and Arimidex (PCT) to last me years. My Doc knows what I'm doing.

Do you actually have face to face examinations with this doctor or are we talking one of the diagnosis and prescription via internet?

I'd be very interested in knowing the doc's name and credentials and see if he would publicly agree to say that 9000mg a week of testosterone enanthate is acceptable or safe.  If what he is doing is not illegal or is above the board than I am certain you will have no issue listing this information.

Understand I don't doubt you at all  - I doubt the "professional" advice you are getting - and before you debate anything I say, I ask you to do one simple thing:

Find one legitimate and AMA approved study that lists the amount of testosterone you are taking as legit treatment option.  For your own physical well-being, I urge you to research this carefully.

Offline Suntropic98

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2007, 02:53:04 PM »
Do you actually have face to face examinations with this doctor or are we talking one of the diagnosis and prescription via internet?

I'd be very interested in knowing the doc's name and credentials and see if he would publicly agree to say that 9000mg a week of testosterone enanthate is acceptable or safe.  If what he is doing is not illegal or is above the board than I am certain you will have no issue listing this information.

Understand I don't doubt you at all  - I doubt the "professional" advice you are getting - and before you debate anything I say, I ask you to do one simple thing:

Find one legitimate and AMA approved study that lists the amount of testosterone you are taking as legit treatment option.  For your own physical well-being, I urge you to research this carefully.

Totally see him every month. I go the 3rd week of each month and only on Fridays. I have an appointment the 19th at 11:00am. I never said he is Rx'ing the stuff to me only that he knows what I'm doing. Legally he can't RX me anything until I hit a certain point with the virus. My treatment is self imposed. I have post traumatic stress disorder.  ;D But seriously, he does know what I'm doing. He's a D.O. not an M.D. and I get a full metabolic / lipid panel done on me each month as well as my counts. Trust me, I'm on top of my game. I never suggested this as a treament option. I commented on the effectiveness of a type of testosterone and the dosage. Thats it.  8)

Offline Dachshund

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2007, 03:06:58 PM »
I never suggested this as a treament option. I commented on the effectiveness of a type of testosterone and the dosage. Thats it.  8)


If you need a website to order test E (or anything period ranging from fat loss to bulking to cutting to genital warts) I have a site you can get it from and it's 100% legit. PM me.

Offline Suntropic98

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2007, 04:57:44 PM »

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2007, 05:02:37 PM »
Sun,

I think it's pretty clear what this substance is and why you're using it in such large doses and off label ie your DO isn't prescribing it -- you're obtaining it on the sly.

Which is cool. If you wanna end up with bitch tits and raisin nuts, that's fine. But you shouldn't be recommending it to other people. If Eggy has testostorone issues he should get them dealt with by his doctor -- not some internet sham outfit.

And you needn't get pissy with Doxie either. He just quoted your own words back at you.

If you need a website to order test E (or anything period ranging from fat loss to bulking to cutting to genital warts) I have a site you can get it from and it's 100% legit. PM me.

MtD

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: DHEA or Testosterone Gel
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2007, 05:26:57 PM »
For what it's worth, if he's doing something like Deca Durabolin the issue isn't the substance, it's the dose.  Deca is what I was given by multiple HIV specialists during two wasting episodes, because at the time gels were not even on market yet.  Deca, of course, at the higher doses are what body builders use/abuse.

I've also done DHEA years ago, with no ill effects, and in fact still have a box full of the stuff collecting dust in my closet.  I wonder if it degrades over time?  Must be 6 years old now.

In the end, it's certainly not like he's sitting around drinking alcohol or doing crystal... you know, in the grand scheme of things.

That said, even if one does "independent" things like this always inform your doctor. 

In particular though, in terms of our ever infamous egello, I'm wary about discussing anything outside the confines of a doctor's office.
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