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really worried and confused about HIV risk
« on: August 28, 2007, 11:01:52 AM »
I am a 27 year old male…in a long term relationship for the past 7 years. I recently made a mistake. I met a girl off the road and we started talking for about a month. Then I met up with her on aug 18 and we started to kiss. While kissing she started to rub my penis and then pulled it out. I was obv hard and then she put my penis in her mouth for about 10 seconds. And licked the head. I then told her I wanted to use a condom but she didn’t want to. But I insisted. So she then finished me off with a condom on (she preformed oral sex on me). I did not do anything to her since she was on her period. But I did stick my finger near her anus but not fully inside. She has 3 kids and is separated from her husband. She said she has never ever used a condom for oral sex but always does for vaginal sex and anal sex.

I developed a severe cough 2 days later….4 days later my head started to hurt a lot when I coughed…and 10 days later my throat became very sore. One day later my throat became better when I took a cough suppressant (today)…I have been taking Tylenol for my headaches so I am not sure if I developed a fever. I do feel a bit weak and today after exposure (day 11) my nose is stuffy and running and cough is still there. Be4 all this happened she did tell me her medical history on her own about how she fought cancer. She said she was tested for HIV a year ago and was negative but has preformed oral sex without condoms this past year on other men and had group sex with other males and females (protected intercourse). Some ppl say its low risk and some ppl say its no risk for unprotected oral. With my symptoms I am worried sick.

1) Was I at risk for HIV? She put my penis in her mouth for 10 seconds without a condom
2) Since she was on her period does her saliva contain amounts of blood that I should be worried about? Or anus?
3) With my cough, sore throat, and headache…I feel I was infected…and today I feel a bit feverish ALSO when I cough today my chest hurts a bit and mucous does come out at times
4) I was tested for all STD’s and HIV a year ago and I was negative and I have not had any sexual relations since…only with my gf (who is def clean) 

Please help me with my concerns. She seems very sexually active and was shocked when I asked her to give me oral with a condom on. That scared me especially with my symptoms. Please help me I would greatly appreciate it.

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2007, 12:24:20 PM »
Confused,

Symptoms or even the lack of symptoms mean nothing when it comes to hiv infection. Only testing at the appropriate time (and for the appropriate reasons) will reliably reveal your hiv status.

Nothing you have mentioned was a risk for hiv infection. Getting a blowjob, with or without a condom, is not a risk for hiv infection. Not one person has EVER become infected that way and you certainly will not be the first.

And I have no idea how you think a woman who is having her period would have blood in her mouth. That's not where women menstruate from. Not even close.

Fingering, even if a woman is on her period, is not a risk for hiv infection either. Again, not one person has ever become infected this way, ever. That includes when having cuts, scrapes, hangnails, etc present. Fingering is not a risk for hiv infection.

Please read our Welcome Thread and follow the Transmission Lesson link so you can better understand how hiv is and is not transmitted.

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Although you do NOT need to test over this specific incident, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2007, 12:54:56 PM »
Thanks Ann, means a lot to me for you to respond. i have a few more qustions if thats ok, if a person is having symptoms and is indeed HIV positive, are those symptoms contagious? The reason I asked that is because the cough i have had the last week or so seems to have been given by me to my nephew. He is coughing now around the house as well. So in general if a person has just become HIV positive and is having these symptoms are those sypmtoms easily caught by others around or are the symptoms not contagious?

my cough isnt a dry cough it has a little mucous or phelgm (spelling ?) with it. my chest also hurts a bit when i cough. are the coughs related to HIV symptoms always dry? My sore throat lasted about a day or so. Does it usually last longer if you acquire the virus?
the woman assured me she is HIV neg but she did say that she hasnt been tested in a year even though she has been sexually active.
So do you still think that i shouldnt get an HIV test done at 6 weeks for this particular incident?

thanks for your support!

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2007, 12:57:36 PM »
Confused,

Please read my first reply to you again. I've already answered your questions. Make sure you read the Transmission Lesson as well. If you had read both my reply and the Lesson carefully, you wouldn't have asked some of the questions you did.

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2007, 01:11:00 PM »
Hi Ann, I read the transmission lesson and couldnt find anything this question:

So in general if a person has just become HIV positive and is having these symptoms (cough, headache, fever, etc...) are those sypmtoms easily caught by others around or are the symptoms not contagious?



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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2007, 01:16:55 PM »
confused,

I told you that hiv is primarily transmitted via unprotected intercourse. If it were spread through coughing, the entire planet would have hiv by now.

The symptoms that SOME people experience during seroconversion aren't caused by the virus itself - they're cause by the process the body goes through to make antibodies.

Whatever is going on with you has nothing to do with hiv. You did NOT have a risk.

Neither getting a blowjob nor fingering are risks for hiv infection. NOBODY has EVER become infected in these ways and you will NOT be the first!

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2007, 01:23:30 PM »
Ann,

I told you that hiv is primarily transmitted via unprotected intercourse. If it were spread through coughing, the entire planet would have hiv by now.

i understand that...and i am not sayin the HIV virus itself can spread by coughing. What my question is, if an individual DID ACQUIRE HIV and started to have these symptoms because the body was producing antibodies, are these SYMPTOMS (not the hiv virus itself) but are these sypmtoms contagious to others?

I hope that makes more sense....again i appreciate all your help.

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2007, 01:38:45 PM »
You can pass a cold or a flu bug or such like things to someone else.

You don't have HIV. At least from the encounter you're concerned about. So you can't pass anything related to that to someone else.

Sounds to me like you're still anxious about that incident and mis-connecting your symptoms to that. See your doctor if your symptoms persist. They have nothing to do with HIV.

And if you're still feeling guilt about having strayed, well you're just a dog like the rest of us and you slipped. Do all concerned a big favor and dump the guilt overboard now. That's the best, smartest and most loving thing you can do. Really.

Cheers,
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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2007, 03:29:20 PM »
Hi Andy,

I am anxious and very nervous...my cough wont go away...and that lady just seemed too easy to get with....not implyin she is a bad girl but she was very easy to get with u know....

and most websites have conflicting data bout unprotected oral sex....but she didnt even really suck my penis she mostly licked it and then i put on a condom.

i think i will try to relax and try to convince myself that these symptoms arent HIV related.

u guys rock! keep up the good work

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2007, 04:44:52 PM »
Fortunately fears and feelings aren't facts. You have absolutely no basis in HIV science from you've reported to be concerned about HIV.

So whatever your head is telling you to the contrary, this is not an HIV situation. Period.
Andy Velez

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2007, 11:14:19 AM »
Andy or Ann,

   Thanks for your responses....I repeatedly read that you cannt get HIV from oral sex esp "receiving" no matter what spin you put on it. My question is....what if the person swallows the sperm after ejaculation, does that make it more of a risk?

Ann, i just read that you are HIV positive and what you are doing is a great gesture. You have been in a very long relationship with an HIV negative man. Thats incredible. I also read that you didnt get to know your status until a year or so into the relationship and your man still didnt catch the disease. is this true?
and today do you still use no barrier for oral sex?....i dont mean to intrude on your personal life but i remember reading that you wrote this in other posts, so just making sure i read or understood it correctly with all do respect. so plz dont get offended or think im tryin to see how ur sex life is by any means...again i repeat with all due respect.

the main thing is that many sites keep contradicting other sites about oral sex and its kinda freakin me out.

thanks

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2007, 01:53:52 PM »
Ann i sincerely apologize if i was out of line.


thanks

confused


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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2007, 04:42:33 PM »
I think you're asking if you are at any greater risk if you ejaculate when someone is giving you a blowjob. If that's your question the answer is no. It might be riskier for the person giving you head, but not you.

I'm going to let Ann answer the questions you have asked her if she chooses to do that.
Andy Velez

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2007, 05:08:35 PM »
Thanks so much Andy, I hope Ann isnt upset with my questions.

If so, again i sincerely apologize.


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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2007, 06:38:23 PM »
confused,

I'm not upset, I just didn't have time to respond to your earlier posts. (I have a life outside this forum, believe it or not!)

What you've read is true and you seem to understand what I've said.

Now understand this: getting a blowjob is not a risk for hiv infection. Never has been, never will be.

Remember to use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. Really, it's true. Make sure you read the condom and lube links in my signature line so you know how to use them correctly.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2007, 11:10:46 AM »
Ann,

    thanks so much for your response. i really appreciate it. Out of curiosity have you ever met an HIV + individual who "claims" to have gotten HIV from an oral sex encounter, receiving or giving? even though there arent any cases "documented."

i dont know many people around me who are HIV + and i am sure you know quite a few ppl. So i was curious to know if you knew ne1 who "claimed" this?

Andy and Rod you both as well.

thanks

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2007, 11:14:10 AM »
I have nothing more to add to what Ann and Andy has already said.

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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2007, 12:39:43 PM »
confused,

People can claim all sorts of things, but that doesn't make it true. Some people won't admit to having unprotected intercourse. Sometimes people do things under the influence of drugs and/or drink that they don't clearly remember. However, the only sexual route of transmission the science supports is unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse.

There have been long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.

Getting a blowjob is NOT  a risk for hiv infection. Not one person has ever been infected this way and you won't be the first. Seriously.

It doesn't matter how guilty you feel over this encounter, your feelings of guilt won't change the science and facts of hiv transmission. If you cannot shake the guilts, seek out counseling. We cannot help you with that here.

Ann
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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2007, 10:58:53 AM »
Ok it has been a few weeks since my encounter....(april 18) and i had unprotected sex with my gf of 7 years last weekend....(aug 31)....she today (9/11) has a slight fever, sore throat, and headache.

i am getting a bit nervous.....should i be? prior to this all my tests were negative so this oral episode was my only encounter the past year (on aug 18)....

my symptoms i was having are totally gone.

Please let me know.

thanks

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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2007, 12:03:55 PM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2007, 01:31:38 PM »
Confused, we know you're a dog like the rest of us and you went straying. Your incident did not put you at risk for HIV, but the risk for guilt after the fact was obviously high.

So even though you're an unfaithful creep, you did not pass HIV to your gf since you don't have it to pass on.

If her symptoms persist she should see a doctor. If your guilt persists you need to see clearly what you did, take a deep breath and let it go. It's poisonous in a relationship. The best thing you can for yourself and your longtime gf is to dump the guilt overboard now and get on with your life. No kdding.
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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2007, 11:16:09 AM »
Hi Andy,

You are right i was a dog and i regret what i did. However, today my gf woke up and went to the doctor to get checked...she has been feelin ill for the past week....she has alot of mucus and her nose is stuffed with sinuses. She has a VERY VIOLENT cough. The doctor told her she had swollen lymph nodes in her throat...that kinda scared the heck out of me when she said "swollen lymph node".

Her temperture was normal 98.1. I know i dont want to post unecessarily but i am a very religous and spirtual person and i feel that god may be punsihing me. I dont know.

I feel much better than be4 symptom wise and i didnt go to the doctor. Her and I did have unprotected sex again this past weekend. i really am truly terrified that i gave her HIV from that one oral incident i had.

Please help

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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2007, 12:31:07 PM »
Also, this is an article I found about oral sex. Please read it carefully and tell me why these people are saying this:


Various levels of risk have been associated with oral sex from the time sexual behaviors were first evaluated for their risk of HIV infection. While early reports were inconclusive, in 1990 three cases of infection were reported --two cases were published and one case was anecdotally reported --in which oral sex was the only reported risk behavior. The subjects, men in the San Francisco City Clinic Cohort Study, tested HIV antibody positive to ELISA and Western Blot tests. (1,2)

In the published cases, each subject tested positive after reporting that receptive oral sex with ejaculation was his only high-risk activity. The two subjects indicated that they had not engaged in anal sex during the previous two years. They had participated in episodes of receptive oral sex with ejaculation with many partners.

The subject whose case was reported anecdotally told researchers that in the year since his last negative test result he had engaged in receptive oral sex, and he engaged in a single episode of receptive anal sex in which a condom was used.

Blood samples taken at the time of all three subjects' most recent negative test result showed that the men also had negative results to polymerase chain reaction (PCR) assays. PCR is an advanced laboratory test that can detect HIV when antibodies are absent, such as during the infection "window period," which is the time after an individual is infected, but in which antibodies to the virus have not yet developed.

The cases are the first in the cohort study in which oral sex alone has been identified as the probable route of transmission. The study include about 600 gay and bisexual men in the San Francisco area who are regularly tested for HIV antibody. Most of the men who have tested positive have done so after engaging in anal sex without a condom.

In a separate study initially presented in 1990, researchers reported that 13 of 82 men who tested antibody positive for HIV reported that they engaged in receptive and insertive oral sex since previous negative tests, but no other risk factors, such as anal sex. The individuals from this study were chosen from participants in three San Francisco studies, and included the cases reported by the San Francisco Clinic Cohort Study. The 13 HIV-infected subjects tested antibody positive about one year after their last negative test.

Researchers state that condom use was not consistent in the groupm and it was not known whether subjects had halted their oral sex practices before ejaculation. Researchers have released only preliminary information from their study, and seek to have their findings duplicated elsewhere before they publish their results. (3)

In another study, published in 1988, researchers in a European cohort of gay men reported five cases in which oral sex was the probable route of infection. (4) While subjects from the European study seroconverted in tests performed a mean of 5.4 months after a previous negative test, researchers say that subjects may have been in the infection window period. PCR analysis, which is not subject to such a window period, was not performed for these cases.

Many antibody test counselors report seeing clients who have decribed oral sex as their only risk behavior. The anonymous testing program in San Francisco provides antibody test results to about 200 clients per week. About 8.5% of all clients seen in the program in the first half of 1990 tested antibody positive. A test site supervisor anecdotally reported that of subjects testing antibody positive during 1990, about one male client every other week stated that oral sex was his only risk behavior. Women testing positive have not reported oral sex as an exclusive risk behavior. Clients who have named oral sex as their only risk behavior have stated that for prolonged periods they have not engaged in other risk activities.

Counselors in other parts of the state report seeing a significantly smaller percentage of individuals who state that oral sex has been their only "high-risk" activity.

While most reported cases of HIV infection by oral sex appear to be from the insertive partner to the receptive partner during fellatio, transmission of HIV from receptive partner to insertive partner is also considered a potential risk. A 1988 study reported a case of tranmission from a female prostitute to a 60-year old male client. The man, who had been married for more than 30 years but had not had sex with his wife for several years, reported his only risk activity as insertive fellatio with the prostitute (5).

Because vaginal secretion, as well as menstrual blood, can contain HIV, researchers consider oral sex with women, cunnilingus, to be a risk behavior.

Some reserchers have disputed the numerous reports of infection through oral sex. They suggest that infected individuals may want to attribute infection to oral sex because they are unwilling to acknowledge that they have participated in unprotected anal sex, a behavior that carries a stigma for some people.

It has also been suggested that individuals may have been engaing in unprotectde anal or vaginal intercourse, but were in the infection window period at the time previous tests were conducted.

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2007, 05:26:23 PM »
Andy, Ann, or Rapid

Can some1 please respond to my two posts? I have been freaking out all day long.

:(


thanks alot

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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2007, 05:47:59 PM »
confused,

It looks like you've been reading old, outdated material. Don't expect us to hold your hand everytime you go surfing the internet and end up scaring yourself silly.

Getting a blowjob is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Period. End of story. If you don't start to understand this soon, I'll have no choice but to give you that time out I warned you about.

It's time you got on with your life and stopped obsessing over a blowjob.

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« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2007, 09:07:12 AM »
Ann,
 
     Thank you for your response. I understand it is out dated material, however arent these cases considered "documented"? If so, then whether its out dated or not, it should hold some truth?

dont you think?
 
thanks for all your help
i greatly appreciate it

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2007, 10:32:10 AM »
con,

Those aren't "documented". Documented means the source of the infection has been proven through scientific testing. Those cases are patient report, and patient report is notoriously unreliable. You also have to realise that the "oral activities" spoken of is GIVING blowjobs. No one claiming to be infected through GETTING a blowjob would be taken seriously, even back then. Saliva is NOT infectious!

We do, however, have the results of three separate serodiscordant studies, studies which went on for years and involved hundreds of poz/neg couples. These people had no reason to lie about their activities, as is often the case with patient report. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.

You did NOT have a risk for hiv infection when someone sucked your dick. You're just going to have to get over it and move on with your life.

This is the last time I'm going to warn you about being timed out. If you cannot bring yourself to believe that getting a blowjob is not a risk for hiv infection, then test and collect your negative result. Just don't expect to be allowed to come here wringing your hands over getting sucked off. OK?

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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2009, 10:53:33 AM »
Ok i am very nervous and i need advice please. I got a very very vigorious hand job from a prostitute. She was rubbing me so hard that i had to tell her to slow down. Long story short, after ejaculation i looked at my penis and it was really red with some blood on it. After a few days there were scabs on my penis and it was very sore from the vigourous hand job.

Kinda like a wound healing. Now my question to you is if this worker was HIV positive and had some blood or previous infected fluids on her hand, am i at risk to getting HIV? It seemed like she had a few cuts on her hands as well.

This person's hands were really rough, not moist, seemed like her skin was crackin as well.

I am scared that since there definitely was blood on my penis, there coulda been a chance i got HIV from either cuts on her hand OR infected fluids on her hands from before (with another person).

Please advise, i appreciate all you help.

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2009, 11:28:27 AM »
I've merged your threads. Please follow our rule and keep all of your entries in this same thread.

Rough handjob or not and including with you bleeding and her having just jerked a dozen guys off to climax, there still wouldn't have been any risk for HIV transmission. No one has ever been confirmed to have been infected through being masturbated. It's safe to say you aren't going to make history by becoming the first.

You've been coming here long enough to be knowledgeable about the only real risks sexually for HIV transmission. They are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. For everything else sexual the risk is strictly theoretical.

Once again as in the past you are worrying needlessly.

There's no need for testing. Get on with your life. 
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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2009, 11:48:08 AM »
"Rough handjob or not and including with you bleeding and her having just jerked a dozen guys off to climax, there still wouldn't have been any risk for HIV transmission"

Thanks Andy, but what about her having those rough hands, dry cracking skin, and cuts? With her blood on her hand and my cuts on my penis, wouldnt that be some sort of a rist?

Thank you for all your help. You all are doing great by calming others down.

thanks.

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2009, 12:11:06 PM »
Even IF the person who masturbated you is HIV+ and the other details you mentioned would not have given access into your bloodstream or your urethra. No way, no how.

This was a non-risk situation no matter how your mind may come up with scary ideas to tell you otherwise. Period. 
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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2009, 09:57:55 AM »
Nothing, and I repeat NOTHING in this story makes me think you even need to test for HIV. You were not at risk at all. I am sorry your gf has a cold - lots do. I had a friend with PCP recently and she doesn't have HIV. There are bugs-a-plenty this time of year. And that stuff about God punishing you - that's silly. HIV is not a punishment from God. You are worrying about nothing here - I don't care what symptoms you or your gf have. Lymph nodes swell up when you hsve a cold - that just means they are working. Not that they have HIV.

Move on from this. It's guilt that is driving your fear - not God punishing you or anything else.

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2009, 11:54:56 AM »
Hi HIV Worker,

Are you referring to my post from a few years ago or my recent post about the vigorious hand job?

I kinda got nervous there thinking i posted something in my sleep....lol

I understand that getting HIV from a vigorious hand job is impossible....but when i saw the blood on my penis i got worried....and her hands were cracking, with minor cuts.

that is why i thought i should get tested.....i felt that her blood on her hands was touching my blood on my penis.... :(


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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2009, 12:17:59 PM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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Re: really worried and confused about HIV risk
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2009, 12:43:00 PM »
Yes, I have read your latest entries carefully. And NO!, you were not at risk for HIV transmission. Period. End of story.

Man, you are going to end up getting a Time Out because this is all about your mind and not anything based in HIV science. Really.
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