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Just a little more info
« on: July 04, 2006, 01:05:08 AM »
Hey all,

I am curious abt my last incidence and would like to know my risks of contracting HIV. Last tuesday I met this really cute guy who got me very excited and talked me into going to his place. He was very honest and told me that he is pos. He however was interested in giving me a BJ and stupid me agreed to it.

He sucked me and rimmed me for a few minutes and then we stopped. Now I am extremely worried about contracting HIV. I do have some small abrasions on my penis, and worry that infected saliva can lead to infection. There was no VISIBLE blood involved for sure, but I have heard conflicting reports of possibly getting infected through saliva ( if large amount of it was involved)

CDC informed me that there is a statistical risk and have had a documented case where someone got infected through insertive fellatio( however I could not find one, anywhere on the website). But also, if you check the latest guidelines for nPEP, Insertive Fellatio is at negligible risks and nPEP is not recommended..

It would help a lot if I could get some more perspectives. I am worried and can't get sleep over it.

Studd

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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2006, 01:08:35 AM »
Why do you think it was stupid? That much I dont get.

Regardless what the CDC hotline might have said, there is ZERO evidence to suggest that you can get HIV from getting a blowjob. Moreover, there is a mounting quantifiable database that suggests a zero chance of HIv through getting oral sex, and only a scant, exceedingly small chance from giving it.

Saliva contains multiple properties which render HIv inactive, as well as block HIV from entry into the cells.

There is no need to test over this incident, and absolutely no reason to be worried over it.

Saliva, to put it forth again, is NOT infectious. This is also why you do not get HV through kissing.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: Oral Sex with known HIV positive person
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2006, 06:00:37 AM »
Stud,

You can have all the sex with an hiv positive person you want, as long as you are using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse. Condoms have been proven to be very effective when it comes to hiv prevention and there are hundreds of thousands of couples around the world where one is hiv positive and one is negative who will attest to that fact.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

You had no risk in getting a blowjob. None whatsoever.

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Re: Oral Sex with known HIV positive person
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2006, 01:07:24 PM »
Thanks for the reply..I just have one last question and then no more questions from my side. I have a small abrasion at the urethral meatus, which is at the opening of the penis, not visible easily, as its kinda inside. Now if saliva of an infected individual touches the abrasion and finds a portal of entry, is that something to be worried about?

I know saliva doesnt possess a big risk, however, since virus is found in some people living with HIV, I thought wat abt the guy had small amounts of virus in his saliva, will that be risky with open abrasion?

Stud

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Re: Oral Sex with known HIV positive person
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2006, 01:59:04 PM »
Virus isn't found in "some people living with AIDS." Anyone who is HIV positive has HIV in their system.

However, in the entire history of the epidemic, and no matter what details you may consider uniquely concerning in relation to your experience, you aren't going to make history by becoming the first guy to become HIV infected by having received a blowjob.

It simply doesn't happen so you can take a breath and let this go now.

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Re: Oral Sex with known HIV positive person
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2006, 08:49:55 PM »
I am sorry to post again, but i was going through some of the posts, and encountered myself in a similar situation where small ulcers on the inside of urethra openings and getting a blowjob from a known HIV+ person, wat are the associated risks?

Guys u'll responses are really aprreciated and helps me a lot..

Stud

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Re: Oral Sex with known HIV positive person
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2006, 09:16:18 PM »
Studdmanas,

You can spin this anyway you want, but out of billions of blowjobs, you are not going to make history by being the first to contract hiv by getting head.

You are not the only one to have little problems with your penis that you happen to notice after a perceived risk.  Think about all the people with penile piercings and scrapes and irritation from teeth contact and any other scenario you can come up with.

Bottom line: you don't get hiv from receiving a blowjob.  So relax.

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Re: Oral Sex with known HIV positive person
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2006, 08:52:17 PM »
Hi there,

I am sorry to post again. But I am so worried and thought i'd get some help...After three weeks of incident I have a terrible sore throat, that started today morning..and it is getting worse..No fever yet, but I guess the drainage of cold from my nose has caused irritation...
Is there anything to worry abt...is it ARS symptom??

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2006, 05:43:05 AM »
Stud,

How could your sore throat be ARS when you cannot become infected through getting a blowjob or being rimmed?

Unless you've been having unprotected intercourse that you've not told us about, you couldn't possibly be experiencing ARS.

You had no risk of hiv infection when you got blown and rimmed. Period.

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Re: Oral Sex with known HIV positive person
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2006, 09:38:02 AM »
Hey Ann,

Thanks for the positive reply.. I can assure you that i did not have intercourse...only orals, that he performed on me..after the sore throat yesterday, i was running a mild fever the entire night...I am Verrrrrry worried, cried the whole nite, dunno how I am going to face this...All I hope is tht there shud'nt be any blood from his mouth, as I have small ulcers (Balantis) near the opening of my urethra...

Stud

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Re: Oral Sex with known HIV positive person
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2006, 11:50:58 AM »
Discuss your symptoms with your doctor. This is not an HIV situation. Period.
Andy Velez

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Re: Oral Sex with known HIV positive person
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2006, 02:43:11 PM »
Hey Guys,

I am having a bad cold starting from three weeks, went to the doctor yesterday and he said its either allergies or viral infection...could this be my symptoms..I had a low grade fever for one day, but still cold is there..I am really worried, and losing all my confidence...dunno wat to do?

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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2006, 05:27:37 PM »
Stud,

You have NOT had a risk of hiv infection. Not one person has ever become infected from getting a blow or rim job and you won't be the first.

Just because you know the guy is hiv positive doesn't change the fact that he cannot transmit his virus to you by giving you a blowjob or rimming you.

You did not have a risk of hiv infection. You have a cold. Period.

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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2006, 05:29:16 PM »
Studdmanas,

I'm reluctant to reply to you because it really seems as though you don't READ the replies given you.

OK, here goes..... YOU DID NOT HAVE A RISK FOR HIV INFECTION. PERIOD.  Whatever is going on with your body, it has nothing to do with hiv.

Sometimes a cold is just a cold.

Morgan
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Re: Oral Sex with known HIV positive person
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2006, 11:38:18 AM »
Thanks so much for the reply..
I can understand that I am being annoying now, and being paranoid..But after reading all the articles, tht if u have a STI ur chances increases to get infected with HIV, and so forth has got me worried. The minute ulcers at the opening of the urethra, contact with Saliva, and the time period( Also the window period) when this cold like symptoms have started has just gotten into my head..

I am sure there have been no documented cases so far, but all I hope that I should'nt be the first one. Discussing with you guys not only keeps my mind at ease, but also helps me understand the logic of why so it is difficult for HIV to get transmitted in certain ways.

And also it is true what Ann said, that I am worried just because I know the guy was HIV positive...Its my belief that its not the person but the act that puts someone at risk.

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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2006, 12:20:07 AM »
hey all,

I am back again. I was reading someone else's post and kinda became curious. It will really help if u'll explain logically why a certain risk does not result into transmission. HIV+ person with oral problems sucking someone's dick who has small abrasions on the penis, still a NO risk.

Saliva does contain small amount of virus and mixed wit blood can be a risk...so why is this a NO risk..I know there has'nt been a documented case, but don't u'll think ppl will stop being curious if there would be some way u'll can prove it scientifically and prove us all tht IT IS STILL A NO RISK, I think there would'nt be many of us constantly nagging u'll...lkg for some reply..

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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2006, 12:27:02 AM »
Studdmanas,

Not only is saliva not infectious, it actually acts to inhibit hiv infection.  Becoming infected with hiv is not like catching a cold.  It's a very fragile virus that needs very specific conditions to infect.

Morgan
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2006, 05:38:51 AM »
Stud,

It has been proven and if you'd read the Welcome thread, you would have read all about the studies.

There have been long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but not for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one. This shows us two things. One, condoms are very effective for the prevention of hiv transmission. Two, oral sex is much lower risk than previously believed. We now have the evidence that oral sex is a very low risk activity where hiv transmission is concerned.

The oral sex that is a very low risk is GIVING a blowjob, and you need to keep in mind that NOT ONE of the people in these studies who used condoms for intercourse, but not oral, became positive. GETTING a blowjob is not risk and not one person has ever become infected in this way.

The mouth is a very inhospitable environment for hiv - it cannot remain viable and able to infect in this environment. There would have to be soooo much blood present in the mouth to negate the anti-viral properties of saliva that, well, you just wouldn't be putting your penis in a mouth that bloody.

You didn't have a risk!

Ann
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2006, 09:44:49 PM »
Hi All,

Well I just wanted to inform you guys that it has been a week but my sore throat has yet not gone, and my mlood pressure have drastically increased...I am now thinking that I am turning positive...so I guess I will be the fist documented case of getting HIV thru receiving oral sex.. I am even scared to get tested, the embarassment will kill me..but we'll see..
Stud

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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2006, 10:11:42 PM »
Hi Stud,
    I'm not an HIV expert at all so I can't give you advice there, but I will say I know what you're feeling about the embarrasment of getting tested. I got my first test last week as well, and it was very difficult to walk into the clinic to get it done.

However, checkout http://www.hivtest.org/index.htm

They have plenty of places where you can get tested COMPLETELY anonymously. It makes it a lot easier knowing those people won't know who you are and won't even ask for your name. It is very important though that you get over the embarrasment and get tested. Even if your situation was low risk, the peace of mind you'll have afterwards is definitely worth it!

Best of luck to you!

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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2006, 01:20:56 AM »
Studdmanas,

It seems as though the only way you're going to stop stressing over this no-risk encounter is by getting a negative test.

If the symptoms you are having have anything to do with hiv, it would show in a test next week.  Don't be surprised when you don't test positive.

Go get tested and collect your negative result.

Morgan
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2006, 06:14:31 AM »
Stud,

You've been posting here now for twenty five days and you have yet to understand us when we tell you that getting a blowjob is NOT a risk for hiv infection. I can't see the point of continuing to try to convince you.

If you'd read through the Welcome thread as you've been repeatedly asked to, you would have read the following:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

You did NOT have a risk of hiv infection when you got that blowjob. If you cannot accept this, perhaps it's time to seek the assistance of a mental health care professional who can help you with your feelings about having sex. We cannot do that for you here.

Please consider yourself warned. If you continue to use this forum to wring your hands over your no risk incident, you will be given a time out. Please see the face to face help you need.

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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2006, 07:36:15 PM »
Ann,

I will not post again for this incidence..I am sorry for tht...Before I end Can u please clarify my last question. When you guys say most ppl who serconvert will do so in 22 days, by tht do u'll mean , they will test positive at 22 days or will start getting sicker at 22 days..

Thanks

Stud

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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2006, 08:00:19 PM »
People usually test positive at 22 days.

As far as when someone starts getting sick from untreated HIV, it could be years later.

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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2006, 04:57:07 PM »
Hi All,

I would appreciate if I could get some response on risks accociated with poppers, so as I can know if i want to involve it during foreplay...Does the risk for insertive partner during oral sex remain same with/without use of poppers? For instance if a HIV + person is sucking a neg person, and the poz person sniffs poppers, wat r the risks? Will he have more sores in his mouth, or will have more blood flow in his mouth or more cuts, and hence will the risk increase?

Thanks, your answer will help us eliminate or minimise the use of poppers

Stud.

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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2006, 05:02:22 PM »
Poppers, alcohol, and other drugs play no direct role in HIV infection.

They might, however, overrule someone's better judgment and cause them to have unprotected anal or vaginal sex.

If you are looking for scientific evidence to eliminate poppers, you will not find it in the realm of HIV infection.

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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2006, 05:06:29 PM »
Hence a insertive person in a oral sex still has no risk for HIV if the receptive partner who is HIV + is sniffing poppers? Does'nt it increase the blood flow??..hence shoudnt the mouth be susceptible to more cuts and possibility of blood in mouth? Will this still not transmit HIV to the insertive partner during oral sex?

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« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2006, 05:10:55 PM »
Exactly. There is no increased risk.

Your logic assumes that poppers cause mouth sores. They do not. Increased blood flow is immaterial to insertive oral sex, as saliva contains over a dozen elements which inhibit HIV. Saliva literally explodes red blood cells, and provides an excellent barrier. You will not get HIV through insertive oral sex, poppers or not.



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« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2006, 05:41:45 PM »
lastly, but u do agree that if the HIV + person sniffs poppers, the amount of blood flow increases in his mouth? hence amt of haemoglobin level also increases?..

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« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2006, 06:02:06 PM »
There is absolutely no physiological correlation between poppers and HIV.

As with any substance which produces an altered state, a person's judgment might be impaired and unprotected sex might be facilitated. That's as close as you will come to an indictment of poppers, and it also goes for alcohol, pot, and any other substance that can produce an altered state.

The effect of dilated capillaries on HIV infection refers to the lining of the anus and vaginal walls. The oral mucousa does contain capillaries which dilate during the use of poppers, but the protective barriers of saliva render that dilation immaterial insofar as pathogenic transmission is concerned.

Not sure why you seem to be stuck at poppers, except perhaps as a vehicle to fuel your fears regarding insertive oral sex. In oral sex, the only risk is to the person giving it, and even THAT risk is vanishingly small.

You were at no risk.

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« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2006, 06:04:38 PM »
It causes the main blood vessels around the heart to expand to releave angina. It does not increase the amount of hemoglobin level in the body.

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« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2006, 08:42:06 PM »
Yeah, Sorry to get so hung up on poppers, as the guy with me sniffed it twice...and then I was going thru the details of poppers and understood tht they dilate the blood vessels..hence thought wat abt it oral mucosa..I did'nt notice any blood, but if the capillaries as u mentioned can get dilated, does it mean it will break and bleed? and if there was bleeding u think it would be noticeable?

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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2006, 08:46:55 PM »
You dilate blood vessels,  you lower the blood pressure. No blood vessels would NOT break. You had a no risk situation but yet you want to find a reason to be infected I really don't understand your thinking.

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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2006, 02:55:03 PM »
Hello All,

I am back again.. As after my initial sore throat, I was fine for a week..then 2 weeks later on Aug 11, I had abdominal pain,swollen lymph nodes, diarrea, vomiting, severe sore throat, weakness...went to the doc, and he said I have strep...

I have had strep b4 but havent felt so intense b4..Is it possible for the symptoms to come back in 2 weeks? Also, I was going through the " I just tested Poz" site, and if one reads carefully, there have been several instances where people think they have got infected with kissing..So infected saliva in short??
Wat does the experts think?? jkinatl2 do you have any opinions??..

I am still scared to get tested, and dont know wat to do?

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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2006, 03:03:28 PM »
For one, stay out of the other forums. You CAN NOT get infected by saliva and you have no reason what so ever to test.

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« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2006, 03:22:29 PM »
stud,

Stay out of the other forums, ok? You aren't hiv positive and you've got no business over there.

Sometimes people can't even admit to themselves that they've engaged in risky behaviours, let alone admit it to anyone else. Sometimes people don't remember risky behaviour because they were under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol. Patient reporting is notoriously unreliable.

However, there have been studies where one partner is positive and one is negative. (the studies are discussed in the Transmission lesson, which you should have read by now) In the couples whose only precaution was to use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, NOT ONE of the negative partners became infected. NOT ONE. These studies have proven what activities are real transmission risks and what are not. Regardless of what some anonymous person posts in some internet forum.

Keep it up and you will earn yourself a time-out. You are still under a warning.

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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2006, 08:22:11 PM »
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Only the one at the top of this page. My opinion has not changed one iota. And with the preponderance of scientific evidence to back up my assertions, I am confident with that opinion.

You do not get HIV from kissing. You do not get HIv from receiving oral sex.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2006, 06:34:33 PM »
Hey Guys,

Well, I haven't still taken the HIV test though, but have taken CBC just to be sure wats going on..I dont know if CBC can helpful to detect early HIV symptom. Usually my WBC is at 16.2, this time it was less, it came out to be 13.4, and my RBC and platelet count which have always been high is still high..

I am concerned since on Aug 10 I was diagnosed wit strep and I got a swollen lymph node on my left neck, which is apperent now, and have checked with several doctors and all have mentioned the lymph node is swollen..So its just not my speculation.

I wonder, why though..since i got this after 2 weeks from my initial allergies, in other words after 6 weeks and 3 days of exposure..Dont know if its bcoz of strep, or myabe HIV, and its showing up late.. But its been 2 weeks that they have been swollen , but still its not shrinking...so this worries me..
Anyone any insights..

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« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2006, 06:36:55 PM »
CBC is useless in HIV detection. Might as well take a pregnancy test.

And you do not get HIV from recieving oral sex. You just don't.

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« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2006, 06:50:29 PM »
Usually my WBC is at 16.2, this time it was less, it came out to be 13.4, and my RBC and platelet count which have always been high is still high..

So I take it that you have had other worries that weren't connected with this unwarranted worry of HIV? It's kind of funny how some one would know their RBC count is (still) high. I've been a paramedic for 32 plus years and have had more blood tests than you could imagine and I don't know or remember my CBC count or my RBC. Don't you think it is somewhat suspicious for you to remember?

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« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2006, 07:23:06 PM »
stud,

You've had strep throat and you wonder why you have a swollen gland in your neck?

You never had a risk of hiv infection in getting your dick sucked. Get over it and move on.

If I find you've continued to post in this thread - or send people PMs - when I get up in the morning, you'll be given that time out I've been warning you about.

You did NOT have a risk of hiv infection.

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« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2006, 09:19:23 AM »
Allrite guys,

I know i am under warning but i had to tell u'll abt my test results..Common allow one more post and dont block me.. I tested negative today...I cant thank u'll enugh for the support u'll have given me...Especially Ann who has always been so firm in her decision, and yeah jikinat too...

Well, u'll r some wonderful ppl i have known...and thanks again for the continuing support

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« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2006, 09:28:47 AM »
I did forget to mention tht it has been 2 months, so its conclusive tht i am neg rite??...No need to further test..Thanks

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« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2006, 09:30:10 AM »
Stud,

Letting us know your results is fine - but please don't start questioning your result. It is absolutely conclusive, especially considering you had no risk to begin with.

Protect your negative status by using condoms for intercourse, every time, no exceptions. OK?

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« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2006, 01:40:23 PM »
Wow! Hello Ann,

I'm a heterosexual who had sex with a woman who I found out was positive.  I used protection.  But she did gave me oral sex and I wasn't protected.  I read up on it and found out that the risk was basically Nil to none.  Reading your reply and others to the guy who has the same fear - has made me more comfortable as to not being exposed.  I'm a newbie here - I'm sitting here basically bursting in tears laughing because no matter how many times you tell this guy he doesn't get the message!!!    :D     Let me state I'm just laughing at the dialog - because HIV is a serious matter.

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« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2006, 02:18:54 PM »
Please start your own thread and do not post in others. Thanks.

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« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2006, 04:30:20 PM »
Hi Guys,

I am not starting again, but its been more than 3 weeks and my swollen lymph node on my left neck is still not gone..its enlarged and its visible. I know was diagnosed with strep and, tht wud be the reason, but as i was surfing the net, it seems strep shoud have gone, and it appears on my post triangle of the neck..

Internet has only one diagnosis for enlarged lymoh node, acute HIV infection, I have started to worry again? Does anyone know how long it takes for the lymph node to shrink...its not painful though as it wasa when i was diagnosed with strep, but  it sure is visible.

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« Reply #47 on: September 02, 2006, 04:36:53 PM »
See your doctor if it persists. This has nothing to do with HIV.

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« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2006, 02:14:02 AM »
Stud,

The internet does not diagnose ANYTHING. Only doctors do that. Go see yours.

You didn't have a risk of hiv infection so what ever is going on has nothing to do with hiv.

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« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2006, 12:42:08 AM »
Ann,

As u have always been so patient and helpful, I would like to discuss with u abt something...and I am being honest and frank...As you know i have tested negative for one incident that happened in june...Unfortunately on August 7, I hookedup with a stranger again, and he assured me tht he is absolutely negative...He is married and was here on a business trip..so we kinda kissed for sometime, and performed unprotected orals for a while..and when he removed his shirt i saw like really bad rash on his back, i mean most of the back and neck was in rash..I know it doesnt mean HIV but i got scared, and I stopped..

So we were engaged in kissing, and some unprotected orals ( giving and receiving) with absolutey no ejaculation..On August 10 i was diagnosed with strep, and since then my glands have been swollen..

My question to u is, is it theoretically possible to be coinfected with HIV and strep at the same time..and if yes, will swollen glands be noticed so soon, after three days...Antibiotics cured my throat, but wat i noticed after a few days was a few small ulcers on the back of my throat...but they also went off in 2 days..

Now i got tested on Aug 25, 15 days after  i was diagnosed with strep, and 18 days after my 2nd possible exposure.. Well since u mentioned tht most ppl do get serconverted by 22 days...U think in this case if i wud do so, my test result wud be intermediate as oppose to negative..I have no weight loss or anything, or no fever, but wonder, wat wud be the reason of swollen glands..I know strep can make tht happen, but I have had strep b4, and not even once i had swollen glands b4...I know we dont discuss symptoms here, but I really had one doubt if you cud clarify,
If hiv causes glands to swell, will tht be within a few days like 3-5days after exposure, or still it will fall in 2-4 weeks period. As according to my research, when HIV first enters the body it can be detected in the lymph nodes usually after 3-5days, so if so why wudn't the glands swell  by then and wait for 2-4 weeks window period..

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« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2006, 01:25:19 PM »
Dude, all this wondering and conjecture is only going to make you persistently worse.  Just wait for your lab results and try not to think about it too much.  There really is nothing you can do to change anything now.  Except choices you make in the future. As far as your glands being swollen, it's their nature "stick out" a bit in places.  They supply your lymphatic system and are protected by becoming a hard nodule.  The more you poke at them, the more irritated they can become as well.  So stop poking and start getting some much needed sleep.  Because if you are + the worst thing you can do is allow yourself to get stressed out.   Hope all goes well :P
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« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2006, 01:50:38 PM »
Brad,

Thanks for the help.. However, I did test negative after my first encounter tht was 8 weeks ago. I was kinda curious for my second encounter.

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« Reply #52 on: September 05, 2006, 04:08:23 PM »
dude your symptoms are nothing compared to mine. my tongue was so fucked up with what my doctor called geographic tongue one month after my possible exposure! since then it has not gone and i have had weird spots in around my bite path in along the cheeks! everyone says its stress and bad anxiety but trust me your symptoms are minor compared to me! your neg trust me bro!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #53 on: September 05, 2006, 04:37:29 PM »
Love,

Stay out of other people's threads, stop discussing symptoms and don't give advice.

Please.

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« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2006, 05:38:38 PM »
LOVE, you have neither the experience nor the expertise to be answering people in this area.

Please focus on your own issues in the appropriate section and leave this work here to those who can handle it appropriately.

Thanks for your cooperation. 
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« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2006, 10:42:30 PM »
So Moderators, based on what I have described do i need to test for this particular exposure?

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« Reply #56 on: September 13, 2006, 04:01:56 PM »
Hi All,

Allrite, I know I am on the ignore list, and honestly did not want to write anything, but just wanted to inform that I got tested today and it came back negative. So after second exposure it has been 5 weeks, and from the first exposure it has been 11 weeks.

I guess I have been paranoid, but cant help it, but have totally understood tht if I have a worrisome nature then maybe i shud'nt hookup with anyone, because honestly i can't go through these nightmares of testing anymore..ironically, when i go for my tests ( I usually go at the same lab), the nurse gives me those nasty looks, man I think i have gone thru a lot..

But I appreciate everyone's help to calm me down..Adios..

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« Reply #57 on: November 16, 2006, 10:30:21 AM »
Thanks for the intense support that I have gotten from you in the past few months..I did wanted expert opinion in my new situation.

On october 9 i had unprotected receptive oral sex where the guy ejaculated in my mouth...After that I was extremely paranoid, and i asked the guy several times abt his status and he said he was neg..Also, on October 12 i had a unprotected receptive oral sex without ejaculation with some other guy and he also insured tht he was neg...

On october 26 I was running a low fever of 99.1, I assume it to go away in a day or two..But it did'nt, ON and OFF i have had this fever, even sometimes 99.5 till Nov 13..Now this day was my 5 th week from exposure, I cud'nt wait so I thought of getting tested, and my result came back negative..But as soon as i got my result, I have come down with flu...I have fever again, extreme cold, swollen glands..

I wonder if i am seroconverting late..I thought if symptoms do occur it appears within 2-4 weeks...So is this just a flu or actual seroconversion? I did have a flu shot sometime in october, so pratically i shud'nt be getting the flu...How reliable are 5 weeks results?

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« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2006, 10:40:16 AM »
Any negative result is good, but a conclusive test is 13 weeks. I wouldn't even have tested. Your temp isn't even considered a low grade temp. Seroconversion starts 2-4 weeks after infection.

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« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2006, 11:06:08 AM »
Asking someone about their HIV status is not recommended for a number of reasons.

Mainly you shouldn't be doing anything with anyone that you're not comfortable with. And you should base your choices on the assumption the person IS HIV+, and act accordingly with what you are ok about doing. Many people don't know their HIV status accurately.

The main means of transmission is via unprotected intercourse. Giving oral is at the low end of the risk scale. Transmission is very, very unlikely in that manner, especially if ejaculation doesn't take place orally, but you have to decide what level of risk you are prepared to accept. You are responsible for your protecting yourself and you cannot depend on the person you are with to take on that responsibility.

If you have physical symptoms troubling you, discuss them with your doctor. 
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« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2006, 05:33:18 PM »
Experts Please suggest,

I really want your espert opinions..I know i have annoyed ppl last time, but i wud appreciate if this time u guys can advice. As I had mentioned tht I had couple of oral exposures in somewhat 3 days, one of which i had swallowed the ejaculation. I tested after 31 days with my last exposure and 35 days after the guy who ejaculated in me, and the result is neg..But i am running a fever of 99.1 for a month now...My doctor suggested CBC and Fasting ESR...

I forgot Fasting ESR and had done these tests after my lunch, and there were only 2 abnormal values.

Wbc : 18.4 ( Normal : 4-11)
ESR : 67     (Normal: 0-15)

I know these values are way tooo high ..WBC to be tht high means infection, and most likely HIV right??, I am going to test for HIV in 2 weeks from now, but I am going thr sleepless nights, and all I can think is this..

Anything u guys can suggest, which i or my doctor is has ignored, tht will really help...

Thanks,

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« Reply #61 on: November 20, 2006, 06:12:40 PM »
Stud,

Hiv infection is NOT reflected in WBCs. A high WBC is usually indicative of a BACTERIAL infection - hiv is viral.

If you hadn't fasted before having a fasting ESR test run, then the results are meaningless.

Keep working with your doctor. It's highly unlikely that any of what you are experiencing has anything to do with hiv.

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« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2006, 07:51:35 PM »
Ann,

Thanks for such a prompt reply. I just had a TESTING question. How reliable are 5 weeks neg test? I read on New York health dept website that their patients usually gets tested positive within a month of being infected. I am assuming they r using the latest HIV Antibody test. I had my test done at Lab Corp, no idea what generation they use. However, I remember u saing that u yet have to see someone on this forum to test postive after 6 weeks of neg result. Mine is 5 week any say in tht?

Also, u have mentioned b4 tht if symptoms do appear they come within 2-4 weeks, of infection. I went for the test exactly at the 35th day and on 36th day I came down with somewhat flu like symptoms, with runny nose and cold...IS it a normal time frame? or someone can still get symptoms starting 5th week.

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« Reply #63 on: November 22, 2006, 03:26:59 PM »
Experts,

Seriously any comments on a 5 week neg test? If I am positive, shud'nt it come inconclusive instead of negative? ..any words of wisdom? Also as Ann said I found out that high Wbc is indeed bacterial...so if i am HIV infected will my Wbc drop down? like less than normal? Thanks

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« Reply #64 on: November 22, 2006, 05:16:46 PM »
Stud,

A WBC will not tell you a thing about your hiv status one way or the other. I've been positive for nine and a half years and my WBC is always in the normal range.

Your five week negative is an excellent indication of your true status, but it is not conclusive. However, considering all you're worried about is giving a blowjob, it's not likely to change. Giving a blowjob isn't much more than a theoretical risk.

There have been long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one. This shows us two things. One, condoms are very effective for the prevention of hiv transmission. Two, oral sex is much lower risk than previously believed. We now have the evidence that oral sex is a VERY low risk activity where hiv transmission is concerned.

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« Reply #65 on: December 04, 2006, 10:44:21 AM »
I just wanted to inform that I will be going for testing tomm...I still keep running a low grader of 99.1 F and my doctor suggested one more CBC and my Wbc came out to be 15.5 with 83% neutrophils. Which is on the higher end and it suggests some infection. I will be going for testing tomm...I am really scared, I guess when u have the feeling of being positive, its gonna change my whole life, i cant sleep and it is driving me crazy.

I know i shud'nt call whom I recently had sex with. But i did and he informed tht he just got tested and he is neg. But these symptoms are killing me, as i have heard tht in Hiv positive ppl, low grade fever will be constant...

I am writing here to decrease my stress level, as its just u'll tht I am truly honest too, can't talk abt all this with any family members.

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« Reply #66 on: December 06, 2006, 02:18:07 PM »
Experts,

I got the result of my test today and its negative. That is after 8 weeks of possible oral exposure. Ann, wat do u think, is this conclusive, or a 13 week test is still needed?

P.S: I really appreciate everyone's effort in helping.

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« Reply #67 on: December 06, 2006, 03:49:37 PM »
You didn't need a test in the first place. Try rereading the replies that have already been given.

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« Reply #68 on: December 07, 2006, 09:27:23 AM »
Stud, you're still on the same tired cycle. You're not listening. You weren't at risk to begin with.

No kidding.

Maybe it's time for you to talk with a mental health professional about why you're holding on to a totally unfounded fear. We've done what we can do for you here.

 
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« Reply #69 on: February 01, 2007, 11:27:15 AM »
My risk assessment.. I was in a bar with a guy, and we were cuddling each other..at one point he unzipped and removed his dick out..he was hard and maybe a little wet..I unzipped my pants and i sat on his dick with my underwear on...wat r the chances ,if he is HIV positive, for the precum on his dick to pass my underwear and reach the skin...Not that he inserted his dick way too in, but maybe little..I did not feel anything wet when i removed my underwear to check for any signs of precum...

Do i need to test?

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« Reply #70 on: February 01, 2007, 12:55:15 PM »
Get real, the answer is no risk at all.

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« Reply #71 on: February 01, 2007, 12:57:08 PM »
HIV doesnt have scissors and a compass to find your ass with!  And it most certainly doesnt set out on a pilgrimage to find and infect you!  (thanks to Thunt for that little gem.)
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« Reply #72 on: February 01, 2007, 01:01:36 PM »
studdmanas,

Seven months since you started posting here and you still don't understand what is and isn't a risk for hiv?

Perhaps you would be better served by getting some counseling. There's not much more we can do for you here if you refuse to use the resources at your disposal to educate yourself.

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« Reply #73 on: February 02, 2007, 04:38:40 PM »
Thanks a lot for the reply..I know i was freaking out unnecessary, but it always reminds of u ppl than anyone else when i am in doubts. Before I end all this, just answers my last few questions and i promis i will be done.

1" Mutual Jack off, no risk for HIV right?
2" Kissing, not deep, but like social with hardly any tongue involvment, and tht too for few minutes, no HIV risk right?
3" Last but not the least, I know its crazy to ask this again, but sitting on someone's hard dick dick, tht is little wet, with underwear ON..I am not sure how deep it went into my ass, but I sure do know tht it was for a couple of minutes, and also, tht underwear material is made up of thin fabric, and it does stain...so any risk for HIV?

Please do answer all this, however silly it is, I can stop thinking after i get ur replies..
Regards,
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Re: Hey all...Back again
« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2007, 04:51:49 PM »
NO Risk on all of your questions.

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« Reply #75 on: February 02, 2007, 04:52:08 PM »
You PROMISED you'd leave after this.

1. No
2. No
3. No
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
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Just a little more info
« Reply #76 on: March 02, 2007, 09:16:32 PM »
Experts,

Please be don't mad since i am asking these questions...just wanted to get it frm u guys...
HIV risk frpm
1. Genital to Genital rubbing
2. Wet Kissing

Thanks

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Re: Just a little more info
« Reply #77 on: March 02, 2007, 10:19:15 PM »
I assume you are asking if those are risks for HIV transmission. Neither of those activities put you at risk for HIV.

Read the lesson on this about Transmission. The link is in the Welcome thread which opens this section and the lesson covers all the basics you need to know about transmission.
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Re: Just a little more info
« Reply #78 on: March 03, 2007, 03:39:05 AM »
Read the posting guidelines in the "Welcome" thread. Keep all your questions and thoughts in your orginal thread.

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« Reply #79 on: March 03, 2007, 07:10:10 AM »
manas,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

Kissing, in any way, shape or form, is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Saliva is not infectious and it even has over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

Genital on genital rubbing is called frottage and is NOT a risk for hiv infection.

You've been coming to this website for eight months now. This stuff is pretty basic - especially the kissing question. Have you learned nothing in your time here? Have you ever bothered to read the Transmission Lesson?

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Re: Just a little more info
« Reply #80 on: March 12, 2007, 12:19:04 AM »
Experts,
Yeah thanks for the reply...I have learned a lot from u in 8 months, and have been very careful with what act i involve myself into...but i do need a little assurance from you all, just to know that I do not need to test..Since i want to avoid unnecessary testing..

I DO NOT feel comfortable to involve in vaginal, anal, or oral sex even wit protection, as it bothers me later on..Hence, kissing and mutual masturbation is really what i do..But the ONLY thing that scares me of mutual maturbation is, a possiblity of infected precum/cum touching the head of my penis..I am uncirumcised and it seems that I may be at higher risk of contracting than others, as, i was with a guy and i was lying naked on him, and he was also naked..i am sure the head of my penis touched his, and we both might have been wet, so then wat happens, is tht a risk?? cud cum/precum of his enter my urthera thru my foreskin?? any insights..is tht activity of any risk, or completely safe..

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« Reply #81 on: March 12, 2007, 12:22:43 AM »
You do not get HIV from mutual masturbation.

You are living in a prison of your own design.

I sincerely hope you get the help you need to someday live a full and happier life.

I submit you will not find your answers here.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Symptoms
« Reply #82 on: December 09, 2007, 10:39:27 PM »
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Experts,

I have realied on your imense help for a few years and I need some help today..I have had some encounters lately and have not been feeling well from yesterday..My mind has started to work and so kinda tensed. I am going to list my encounters and wud appreciate your honest opinion.
1. A guy gave me a BJ. ( Wat scares me is he wanted to swallow, and he never asked my status...I did'nt cum though, but nervous)
2. I gave a guy BJ, i think i tasted his precum but thts all..Lasted for max 3- mins.
3. A guy sat on my dick and i was'nt wearing condoms. It was not a penetration cuz i think i wud know...but i think there cud have been dipping..or more likely frottage...Cuz then i asked him that can i fuck him ( i know how cud i without condoms, but was trying to test) and he said not without condoms..So i am thinking its like frottage).

I have a few symptoms from yesterday. I feel feverish. Somehow i feel chills. I checked my body temperature and oral temperature is 98.9F and ear temperature is 99.5F....I feel bitter in my tongue also hence i think i have fever...

Please explain me if these are seroconversion symptoms.

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Re: Just a little more info
« Reply #83 on: December 10, 2007, 01:49:07 AM »
OK,

1. Receiving a blowjob (protected or otherwise) is not a risky behaviour in terms of HIV transmission.

2. Giving an unprotected blowjob is a theoretical risk. You were not having theoretical sex so I wouldn't consider this a testworthy incident. Remember that saliva contains substances which inhibit the virus.

3. Dipping and frottage are not risk behaviours either. The problem with unprotected dipping is that it often leads to unprotected fucking.

I don't see anything worth getting an HIV antibody test for in this lot.

I would add that we have been over this with you time and time again. You should know this stuff by now. Not only that but you should know that you're may not start new threads everytime you have a new thought or question. For the last time, please read our Welcome Thread and review our transmission lessons as well as the posting guidelines.

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Re: Just a little more info
« Reply #84 on: December 10, 2007, 08:22:42 AM »
You've received many thorough replies to your variations on a theme of non-risk situations over the months you have been coming here. None of the responses seem to have translated into your being able to connect the dots from one situation to another.

The issue related to HIV risk is not rocket science. It's basically about unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Which you have been told repeatedly. All the variations about masturbation, oral and more have been gone over for you.

If you're going to be back here again with more of the same you're going to get a time out. We're not here to hold your hand everytime you have a burst of anxiety about a sexual experience. And if you need that kind of support then you need to see a professional to talk about the issues.

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« Reply #85 on: February 20, 2008, 10:54:37 PM »
I have a few symptoms, and have had sleepless nights over it..

After a few episodes of performing unprotected oral i have had these symptoms..Just yesterday I end up with chills and fever with oral temp of 98.6 and ear temperature of 99.6..I checked today morning and observed at various places of my trunk I have these red bump like rash, googled it and found out to be maculopapular rash...I have back , arm and leg pain..but oral temperature has not been more than 98.8F...Am i suffering from PHI Symptoms? Experts I am not just writing for the sake, kinda very worried especially becasue of rash and body aches..

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Re: Just a little more info
« Reply #86 on: February 20, 2008, 10:58:57 PM »
Studd,

You can Google just about anything.

In any event, your symptoms are not suggestive of primary HIV infection, not least because you were not at risk.

MtD

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« Reply #87 on: February 21, 2008, 06:04:51 AM »
manas,

You've been coming here for nearly two years now - and you ignore pretty much everything said to you. Have you ever even bothered to take an hiv test? All I can see in your thread is references to having CBCs done - and a CBC won't tell you a damned thing about your hiv status. Neither will symptoms or the lack of symptoms.

All your hand-wringing and symptom hunting every time you have sex is getting a bit tedious. I can't see what more we can do for you. You are on the verge of being permanently banned. No, I'm not joking. Don't bother posting again unless it's to report that you've tested and collected your negative result. Yes, I fully expect you to test negative as you've never brought us a real risk for hiv infection.

Post more stuff about symptoms and you'll be banned. Enough is enough already.

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« Reply #88 on: January 04, 2009, 09:35:47 AM »
Experts,

I havent had my HIV test in a long time and I am going next week..I just wanted to ask if the Home Access kit is reliable for testing? Also, From last 6 months I have gotten something weired in my mouth...Mouth Ulcers, they recurrent frequently, one heals and immediately other occurs..is it a common complaint for HIV + ppl? Is this my symptom?

Your help is always appreciated..

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« Reply #89 on: January 04, 2009, 09:57:02 AM »
manas,

Home Access is FDA approved and reliable.

Re-read my last post to you. You know we don't discuss symptoms here. If you have mouth ulcers, you need to discuss that with your doctor and/or dentist. Not us.

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Home Access Kit
« Reply #90 on: January 22, 2009, 02:24:41 PM »
Hi Ann,

I wanted to post to let you know that I had a Home Access HIV test yesterday after my 7 month risky exposure of deep kissing and rimming and I tested negative. I hope this is accurate testing since this is the first time i have been using home access..

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« Reply #91 on: January 22, 2009, 09:08:16 PM »
manas,

It's no surprise you tested negative. "Deep" kissing and rimming ARE NOT RISKY FOR HIV! How many times do you have to be told?

Don't bother coming back here to question your negative result. If you do, you WILL be permanently banned.

Please consider yourself warned for the very last time.


YOU DO NOT HAVE HIV. End of story.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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