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Author Topic: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!  (Read 2313 times)

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Offline Carolann

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First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« on: August 09, 2007, 01:40:07 AM »
Well,

Last night I hit the button and bought a ticket to Puerto Vallarta. It is not the best time for me to go, but I had the opportunity to stay in a condo for free, so I jumped at it. I am all ready to go and will be leaving tomorrow morning. I am leaving all my pills in their original bottles as I do not want to arouse any undue suspicion. The thing is, will they note something in my computer file when I come back If I have any meds with me? Though the thought of going away causes anxiety now that I have the bug, I am glad this is one more step to living with HIV and trying to go on with life as normal as possible.

Take Care, and see y\'all in a couple of weeks!

CA

Offline mjmel

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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2007, 09:40:07 AM »
No. I come and go to Mexico and the meds are hardly noticed and never commented on. Not one incident. I don't even carry the original bottles any more. I fill my med dispensers and carry the co-pay receipt from the pharmacy. It has my doctors name and the pharmacy contact as well. If I was traveling overseas then I'd bring the whole shebang.
Oh wait. Just once. Shortly after 9/11 this one guy at a security checkpoint in Louisiana was studying them like they might have been filled with nitro or something.  ::)
No one else since then.
You sort of confused me by referring to a computer file. No file kept; no questions asked......at least not here in the US or Mexico regarding US citizens.
Have fun. Relax.
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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2007, 09:59:57 AM »
I have gone overseas so many times with tons of meds for over a decade.  Really, nobody blinks an eye.  There are many other diseases than HIV and these security people assuredly see tons of med bottles hourly (among other things...).   The only time I was pulled aside was when security in ReykjavŪk found my Biojector... it looks like a futuristic gun I guess.  Fortunately I was carrying a letter from my doctor and an attachment from TSA for it.
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Offline redhotmuslbear

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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2007, 10:17:21 AM »
You're a US citizen, I assume, so TSA doesn't give a rat's ass if you have HIV.  I worked in Toronto for almost a year just before 9-11-01, and I make two round-trip flights to Canada every year;  and no one with Immigration Canada or TSA has given me grief about my pills and glutamine powder, even when I had lovely HAART meds in the pill box with big labels on them..... geez, and there have been so many hot Canadians I would have allowed to do a cavity search  >:(

Honestly, US Customs get more exasperated with my partner and I filling out a joint declaration with Married checked, just as we do when we enter Canada.  The Canadians have delayed me in Immigration twice in six years because I once had an employment authorization (work visa), and they delayed my partner but not me last fall for connecting through Montreal to get to Toronto--really!  My worst experience was on the highway crossing back into the US in northern Maine in 1992 after three weeks in the Maritimes--I had assimilated a New Brunswicker accent, and Customs strip-searched my vehicle and ran down my income tax records for six hours, though I was travelling with my US passport.

Cheers,
David
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Offline northernguy

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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2007, 10:39:50 AM »
... My worst experience was on the highway crossing back into the US in northern Maine in 1992 after three weeks in the Maritimes--I had assimilated a New Brunswicker accent, and Customs strip-searched my vehicle and ran down my income tax records for six hours, though I was travelling with my US passport.

Cheers,
David

That's what you get for trying to impersonate one of us ;)

Carolann, have a great trip.  Relax and enjoy yourself.
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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2007, 12:17:56 PM »
You're a US citizen, I assume, so TSA doesn't give a rat's ass if you have HIV. 

Not sure if this was in response to my mentioning a letter from TSA, but yes if you are on a non-FDA approved medication such as I was in a clinical trial you do in fact need documentation from your doctor, and at least in the case of a Biojector there is a letter from TSA as well.
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Offline SASA39

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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2007, 12:46:43 PM »
1. If you can , take a letter from your doc where he confirm that a therapy that you are carrying is for your personal use only ( without naming a desease , only the medication brands) , but do not show it unlles someone ask you to do so.............
2.If someone ask you what are you carrying just tell them that is is a chronic medication therapy without further explanation............( otherwise show them a letter )
3.And carry all your medication with you in a hand luggage packed in those see -through plastic bags if necessary...........
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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2007, 12:53:09 PM »
Well,

Last night I hit the button and bought a ticket to Puerto Vallarta. It is not the best time for me to go, but I had the opportunity to stay in a condo for free, so I jumped at it. I am all ready to go and will be leaving tomorrow morning. I am leaving all my pills in their original bottles as I do not want to arouse any undue suspicion. The thing is, will they note something in my computer file when I come back If I have any meds with me? Though the thought of going away causes anxiety now that I have the bug, I am glad this is one more step to living with HIV and trying to go on with life as normal as possible.

Take Care, and see y\'all in a couple of weeks!

CA

Well, I had no problems at all flying within the states including my last trip.

I don't think this will be any issue at all so relax and enjoy your vacation.   I'm planning to go back to Costa Rica at the end of this year and I have no worries.

I've heard some issues with some Asian countries and the Middle East, but have no desire to go back to either of those any time soon anyway ; )

Enjoy your trip!

W
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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2007, 02:27:38 PM »
CA-

have a great time. See you on the flipside (with pix, I hope).

Brent
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Offline Carolann

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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2007, 11:01:19 AM »
Well,

I am back! My anxiety turned out to be wasted energy. I left my meds in their original containers, and had no problems. I kept them in a backpack and with me at all times. The people in Mexico were wonderful. I loved Puerto Vallarta and want to return soon. I have even thought of going back in December.

It felt great to get out of the country, start enjoying a normal life. It is a process and I am glad I am continuing it. I felt more alive than usual, not a care in the world. Nothing Like a Pacifico on the Pacifico, interacting with new people, and appreciating what I have to put things into perspective.

Thanks for your replies,

CA

Offline comino

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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2007, 07:28:54 PM »
C,  I've traveled world wide and I've never had any problems at all not in China, Japan, Thailand, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina, Mexico, Canada, Uruguay, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, England nor France.  I would second the advise of packing your meds in your carry on and have a note from your Dr. just in case, I always do, never needed it. So enjoy the Pacifico on the Pacifico  and SALUD!   Pa'rriba' ,pa'bajo,pa'l centro, PA'DENTRO!   It's a mexican cheer  that translates to  GO up, go down, go to center, and then it enters, ofcourse you do this with your drink  HA!   ;D

Offline gaspode

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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2007, 04:56:35 PM »
Glad you had a good time, CA


Now, try enetering the USA as a non USA citizen carrying HIV meds  ;)

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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2007, 08:51:17 PM »
What is the worst that can happen?  It is not like the government did not have other ways to know your condition.
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Offline Carolann

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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2007, 11:44:36 PM »
Well Red Dragon,

The worst thing that could happen is that they could choose not allow my meds into the country (Mexico) since I did everything last minute and did not have a letter from my doctor. The second worst is that I would be questioned on why I need the meds, since I still fear stigma and such for being a dirty bug carrier. Coming back was not an issue because I did not bring any meds back into the USA. I even brought way over the limit of tequila allowed per person. I guess I just had an honest face. No alimentary canal smuggling profile suspect here.

CA

Offline mjmel

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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2007, 04:15:41 PM »
Glad you won't waste energy or time worrying about this any longer. So........as Mr. Bucko suggested.......where's a nice picture? You don't have to show a face just something like the incredible blue ocean....or anything south of the border.  (sigh)
Mike

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Re: First Time out of the Country with Meds, Yikes!
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2007, 04:57:08 PM »
Yes CA, we'd all love to see some travel pictures.
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