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Offline Dachshund

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What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« on: August 21, 2007, 07:26:29 AM »
I won't start out by posting my opinions (though I have many) of Poz Magazine. I'll start by throwing out a few questions to the group and see where it goes from there.

Do you read it?

Quality of writing?

Relevance?

Does it represent the face of Aids?


edited for spelling
« Last Edit: August 21, 2007, 08:24:55 AM by Dachshund »

Offline RapidRod

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2007, 07:30:45 AM »
I read it when I go to the clinic, of course I don't have time to read it all, but of the stories that I have read I liked it.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2007, 08:48:52 AM »
I used to get a free subscription.  Not sure why they stopped it, but I suppose I could get it again if I tried.  The articles they have I like though. 
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2007, 09:00:40 AM »
It is OK. But most of the stuff that is published on POZ magizine is also posted on there site for your reading.

Also by the time I get the copy here at my home the next month is already coming out on the POZ site itself.

Then again my subscripition also has ran out and not going to renew it anytime soon.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2007, 09:22:03 AM »
[in part]:
Do you read it?
Quality of writing?
Relevance?
Does it represent the face of Aids?


I scan it because it's sent to me pro bono.  Some years ago it used to be more academic...with articles about medications and the physiology of HIV.  In recent years that seems to have been replaced by pop culture or silly stuff which doesn't really interest me.  And it usually only features asymptomatic-looking people...like the ones in the drug ads tackling Mt. Everest or whatever with Sustiva in their fanny pack.  There's a group of us out there that can't climb mountains and have our functional capacity limited by HIV...but we are never featured or barely mentioned.  Relevance of the magazine to me therefore is minimal or nothing anymore.  Probably it's geared to people in their 20s or 30s now...I'm older than that and have different interests.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2007, 09:32:13 AM »
I've never read it. I'm not sure where I would even find an issue.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2007, 09:52:17 AM »
I cancelled my subscription & I never read the POZ website. Why should when I get everything I need right here?

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2007, 09:55:33 AM »

And it usually only features asymptomatic-looking people...like the ones in the drug ads tackling Mt. Everest or whatever with Sustiva in their fanny pack.  There's a group of us out there that can't climb mountains and have our functional capacity limited by HIV...but we are never featured or barely mentioned.  Relevance of the magazine to me therefore is minimal or nothing anymore.  Probably it's geared to people in their 20s or 30s now...I'm older than that and have different interests.

Gary


Precisely why I lost interest...I got older, and my asymptomatic years (and asymptomatic-looking years) are well behind me now. 

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2007, 10:03:30 AM »
I read it when I go to the clinic

In recent years that seems to have been replaced by pop culture or silly stuff which doesn't really interest me.  And it usually only features asymptomatic-looking people...like the ones in the drug ads tackling Mt. Everest or whatever with Sustiva in their fanny pack.  There's a group of us out there that can't climb mountains and have our functional capacity limited by HIV...but we are never featured or barely mentioned.  Relevance of the magazine to me therefore is minimal or nothing anymore.  Probably it's geared to people in their 20s or 30s now...I'm older than that and have different interests.

I cancelled my subscription & I never read the POZ website. Why should when I get everything I need right here?


These three sort of sum up my feelings and reading pattern with the mag - though I do look at the poz website on occassion.

I'll will add that when I do look at it that I often get the feeling that it is more about a public face of POZ people for those who are curious or not poz than it is for poz people themselves.

I'm not trying to be nasty - just giving an honest feeling that I get  everytime I skim through it....and actually that is all I ever desire to do: skim it. 

Between my google reader, aidsmap and these discussions boards I get much more releveant and richer information from other resources.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2007, 10:08:21 AM by Iggy »

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2007, 10:58:33 AM »
I get it sent to me for free...I cant remember how I signed up for it though....I actually really like it and look forward to getting it each month. I get lots of info and like to read about how all kinds of people are affected by this disease. The only thing I dont like is that they have alot of gay people, which is fine, but I wish they would show more young, straight, females like me. Other than that, I really like it.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2007, 11:03:40 AM »
The only thing I dont like is that they have alot of gay people, which is fine, but I wish they would show more young, straight, females like me. Other than that, I really like it.

I think the issue with the magazine (from the publishers point of view) is sort of tied into this a little.

We may all be poz but we all do not have the same issues and trying to put out one general magazine for all poz people...well - is I guess to make it as generic and one size fits all for all people as possible, which unfortunately doesn't serve any audience specifically well.

This is one of the reasons these forums are so good - one can dive into specific information regarding their specific concerns.

I guess it's a broader issue of print vs. the internet in general than Poz mag specifically.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2007, 12:15:21 PM »


I do not subscribe to the Magazine. When I have my quarterly blood tests, I will also, just scan through the issue, in my doctors office. I prefer the "Positively Aware" magazine, and subscribe to that one. I also like the layout of their website. Easy to navigate.., and I find the articles informative and helpful. I also have plenty of other sources of HIV information that I subscribe to, through publications or through Email alerts. It can keep me busy, keeps my inbox active !

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2007, 12:25:39 PM »
I think it's cool and represents the faceS of HIV.

However I think the AIDSmeds forums have much more "nittygritty" - a magazine can't compare in that area. "Overheard in the Forums" is a reflection of that

I like the fact that we can run a search in POZ or the forums, with the 2 different search functions.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2007, 01:24:24 PM »
My first exposure to POS magazine was when I went to my local Clinic for an 'Intake  Appointment ' a few days after I was diagnosed.
i sat in the waiting room, and there was a rack full of POS ....   my first thought was  "You gotta be shittin me " then I opened it up, and got the Reyataz ad, the talking one   " Hey We're at The Beach !!! "  I still have it ,  really a surreal day  that was...   
I stopped taking it seriously after they  published the winner of a short story contest , about a bugchaser ... Luckily they also have months old copies of " People " in the waiting room.., however I usually snag a copy of National Enquirer on the way just to be sure ( news flash: Rachel Ray is a Mean Drunk !! )   and leave it behind as a public service ....   but Ive done gone and digressed
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2007, 03:18:26 PM »
I get it sent to me for free...I cant remember how I signed up for it though....I actually really like it and look forward to getting it each month. I get lots of info and like to read about how all kinds of people are affected by this disease. The only thing I dont like is that they have alot of gay people, which is fine, but I wish they would show more young, straight, females like me. Other than that, I really like it.

Oh yeah...that hot, 30-something MILF poz demographic is much too underrepresented in favor of all those queers.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2007, 04:27:55 PM »
Quote
Working with photographers, writers, designers and doctors, our team chronicles the HIV epidemic, both in the States and overseas. We publish POZ magazine eleven times a year, POZ.com, Real Health magazine, Combocards, and a variety of other health care resources. POZ is published by Smart + Strong, a division of CDM Publishing, LLC.

The above is what is listed in the About Us section of the magazine (http://www.poz.com/aboutus.shtml) which is what is normally considered the Mission Statement of a publication.

I was a little taken back by how little they offer about their mission. 

Maybe it is too general and generic, but something does bother me about it.  Maybe because it talks more about how often it is published, who it is published by and what else they publish then what they are writing about is the issue in my mind.

I don't know.

But something just feels wrong to me about that being their Mission statement.

Something.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2007, 04:47:19 PM »
What do I think?

more Vogue than virus.

HIV, it isn't a lifestyle. The people living with it, proper living with it, their strength don't need perfect teeth, feel-good soundbites or beach backdrops - it'd light up the (non air-brushed) page all by itself, if you gave it a chance. 

probably works for the market it appears to be aimed at - young, recently diagnosed (american) people, who aren't looking for particularly in depth commentary/information (granted, this non-technical language could be seen as one of its strengths. And one could argue that the "normalising" appeal of a magazine which (often seems to) styles itself after a mainstream glossy is another, for this market)

Me, though, I'll stick to my natap and htb. Research news and pk data don't make a girl feel quite so, er… un-shiny

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Offline Iggy

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2007, 04:51:48 PM »
Was gonna modify my last post but think it deserves a new one:

 I realize upon rereading my post what a pessimistic bastard I am coming across as with POZ.  I have my issues with them and am not shy about it - but I think they deserve some respect for putting our issues out there. 

Not everyone has access to the internet, not everyone is as experience as some of us in certain issues, and not everyone can deal with some of the harsh realities of HIV and AIDS without some sugarcoating... frankly I am grateful that they are trying (and I do think trying hard) to get the right mix out there of both serious and lite for the various populations that make up the poz community.

As we see here on this board (and I admit my role in this) it is a thankless job.

I do wish that they took a less glossy and pretty focus than what they have now and perhaps put an equal amount of grit as gloss in each issuem but I do think they are doing in print what most others wouldn't even consider worth trying.

That is worth my admiration and respect no mater how much I disagree with certain of their techniques and decisions.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2007, 04:55:26 PM by Iggy »

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2007, 05:02:36 PM »
Matty the Damned can only give a foreigners view of Poz magazine, but then it does claim to be a journal of record for the pandemic both in the states and overseas.

As I said in the other thread, I think Poz is cheap, glib and sleazy. Not in production terms but with reference to content. It's articles seem to be light handed puff pieces or patronising undergraduate efforts (eg the latest editions articles on Jamaica) which represent a "face" of AIDS that exists only in the minds of the senior editorial staff.

It's pretty clear that the leadership of Poz magazine want to re-invent a pandemic that is neat, clean, attractive and well managed. Not lipo'd, disabled and unattractive.

The inconvenient face of AIDS need not apply.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2007, 06:56:46 PM »
I've never read it. I'm not sure where I would even find an issue.

POZ magazine markets itself as a give-away glossy at doctor's offices, pharmacies and ASOs. It is not a newsstand-type publication, and I've never heard of anyone paying the cover price for it.

Matty the Damned can only give a foreigners view of Poz magazine, but then it does claim to be a journal of record for the pandemic both in the states and overseas.

As I said in the other thread, I think Poz is cheap, glib and sleazy. Not in production terms but with reference to content. It's articles seem to be light handed puff pieces or patronising undergraduate efforts (eg the latest editions articles on Jamaica) which represent a "face" of AIDS that exists only in the minds of the senior editorial staff.

It's pretty clear that the leadership of Poz magazine want to re-invent a pandemic that is neat, clean, attractive and well managed. Not lipo'd, disabled and unattractive.

The inconvenient face of AIDS need not apply.


MtD

I find it highly enlightening that POZ is supported by Big Pharma, who has much at stake in perpetuating the whole "HIVlite" image of AIDS, even to the ridiculous point of suggesting that living with HIV need never effect either your bank account or your reflection in the mirror.

As such, the cranky, sallow-faced first-generation of guinea pigs are the last people anyone would want representing the front-line of a customer base. Such quasi-successes as we are indeed "inconvenient faces".
 
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2007, 07:04:23 PM »
Maybe someone should start an HIV/AIDS magazine focused toward long term survivors. I always got the feeling POZ was directed more to the newly infected anyway. Just an observation...

Dan

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2007, 07:38:46 PM »

I find it highly enlightening that POZ is supported by Big Pharma, who has much at stake in perpetuating the whole "HIVlite" image of AIDS, even to the ridiculous point of suggesting that living with HIV need never effect either your bank account or your reflection in the mirror.

As such, the cranky, sallow-faced first-generation of guinea pigs are the last people anyone would want representing the front-line of a customer base. Such quasi-successes as we are indeed "inconvenient faces".
 

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2007, 07:39:43 PM »
Hey Hal,

I used to read it at the clinic.  Poz and A&U were in the waiting room and some times I would go early to catch up on my reading.

Then I moved and the magazines were limited to satff only in my new clinic, but were available at no cost to persons living with HIV, through the mail.  However comma there were less than 100 people living with HIV, county wide and the postal clerk in that small town was not bound by confidentiality as the clinic staff were.  A staff member at that clinic referred me to AIDSMEDS.com.  Personally, I now see those magazines as decoration in the waiting rooms of the clinics.  A medium where drug companies can purchase 4 color, full page advertising to hawk their wares, direct to the people living with HIV.

I view drug company advertising to be self- serving since the days of "Carters Little Liver Pills".  One of my favorites is currently on TV... Cialis for erectile dysfunction.  They say "If you have an erection lasting 4 hours or longer, call your doctor".  Don't call the doctor... call me! Have the best day
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2007, 08:00:54 PM »
never read it,dont want anyone to think I have aids and my dr. has golf digest.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2007, 09:01:31 AM »
Not to kiss up to anyone, but I think the best thing POZ  has going for it is its association with AIDSmeds ..
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2007, 10:29:57 AM »
Come to think of it, there are a LOT of med ads in Poz.  I haven't gotten in since 2006, and I don't really miss it a whole lot.  I agree that the new ads for medication seems to be all these people who are on the adventure of their lives.  That definitely doesn't fit most of us long term survivors.  I find this a bit insulting. 
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2007, 10:41:26 AM »
Come to think of it, there are a LOT of med ads in Poz.  I haven't gotten in since 2006, and I don't really miss it a whole lot.  I agree that the new ads for medication seems to be all these people who are on the adventure of their lives.  That definitely doesn't fit most of us long term survivors.  I find this a bit insulting. 

They have to glamorize living with hiv by putting pretty people in their ads going off to some exotic vacation because the TRUTH won't sell the myth that HIV is nothing more than a manageable chronic condition. I wonder how many of these people in the HIV medication ads are ACTUALLY HIV+?

& POZ Magazine purpetuates the myth by running these ads...

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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2007, 10:59:25 AM »
I have a question to throw out to everyone in regards to both the mag in general and related to the story on Jesse.

What are we who have issues about the coverage and focus of the mag prepared to do about it beyond this message board?

I think there is a general (though not unanimous) agreement that the magazine does not reflect the reality of most of our lives and a desire to see a greater balance between having a positive outlook and the darker reality for many of what it means to live a life as a positive person.

Do we request a meeting (whether face to face in NY) or a virtual one on the board?  Do we issue a public letter to the editor of POZ?
Do we issue a letter to the Poz Advisory board and request their attention?

Most importantly - do any of us volunteer to be available for public interviews with the publication?  I am being extremely mindful of myself here and my fear of public exposure, but I am weighing it against my want to effect a change that I think is needed.

I don't have an answer and I don't pretend to be the strong and brave face of this, but I think it is time to do something beyond just getting mad.

What is everyone's thoughts?


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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2007, 12:14:40 PM »
I think we should flood their mailbox with letters to the editor not just about Jesse's cover story but the overall direction the magazine is taking. If I want  People magazine, I will pick it up at the grocery store.


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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2007, 12:23:25 PM »
Never read it either.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2007, 12:24:14 PM »

more Vogue than virus.


couldn't be a better way of saying it, but look at the editor. As a woman, I find that I can identify with gays and African Americans in Poz more than the 2 faces they use to represent me as a female. They doesn't represent me, and certainly not the side of me that is poz. When I want glamour, I read Glamour.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2007, 12:30:53 PM »
The above is what is listed in the About Us section of the magazine (http://www.poz.com/aboutus.shtml) which is what is normally considered the Mission Statement of a publication.

I was a little taken back by how little they offer about their mission. 

Maybe it is too general and generic, but something does bother me about it.  Maybe because it talks more about how often it is published, who it is published by and what else they publish then what they are writing about is the issue in my mind.

I don't know.

But something just feels wrong to me about that being their Mission statement.

Something.

Something?  Like perhaps that there isn't one?  

Yes, you "chronicle the HIV epidemic, both in the States and overseas. We publish POZ magazine eleven times a year".  That much I should think would be assumed from a magazine named "POZ".  It says absolutely nothing with regard to what drives them to do this and what goal they hope to acheive by doing so...or who they would like to reach.

Once again today, I am like Iggy.  The absence of a Mission Statement with any substance leaves me cold.  

It essentially just says, "We publish this, we do it this many times a year and we also publish these other dealies over here".

How insightful.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2007, 12:36:21 PM »
And for the record:


AIDSmeds.com is dedicated to providing people living with HIV the necessary information they need to make empowered treatment decisions. The founder and some of the writers of this web site are living with HIV, and we know first hand the challenges of learning how to fight this virus. By offering complete, but not complicated, up-to-date info, AIDSmeds.com seeks to help those that are both new and old to this challenge, and to remain a powerful resource for years to come.



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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2007, 12:37:24 PM »
when I wrote my previous comment I didn't yet see about the new cover of poz. That's why I wrote that the gays present me as poz better then the women on the banners.

That's what you get with a combination of high profits, and a cross over from mainstream glossies in the editorial front.


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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2007, 09:36:22 PM »
iggy and tim are right on.

Poz is just a vehicle for drug advertisements in Dr. offices.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2007, 09:38:19 PM »
Way to go Robert it is about time. :-*

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2007, 10:00:49 PM »
I pick one up each month when I go to the pantry. I don't necessarily read the entire mag, but do skim the things that get my attention.
I am an overweight, liposdystrophied, 50 year old divorced single mother of three, with dementia issues, and NOT afraid of being completely out there.
They can send Ms. Chew to my house any day.


PS...and by the way, I read that article about Jamaica and had no idea that things were that bad there. It all sounded pretty frightening for the gay population there. My GAWD! I just couldn't imagine living in that kind of fear every day.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2007, 10:02:21 PM »
It's glossy and slippery... like its pages.

Hmm... every now and again my doctor's office has them there, and I usually pick up a copy, flip through it discontentedly, and then take it home with me so the cats will have something new to rip to shreds.

As it is, it's perfectly acceptable when it's
1) there, and
2) free.

But there's not much too it.  It's sort of like... AIDS!  Don't worry, be happy!  Things will get better naturally!  Don't worry!  Shut up, sit down!  Go with it and be happy!

It's sort of like Stepford AIDS or something. 

I've suspected for quite some time that the copious amounts of drug ads and the shiny, happy people living with HIV (I suspect I'm one of the shiny happy people, but I cover up for it by being ill-tempered in general) are more than casually related to each other... but I've yet to put my finger on it.

Oh, and it's written at a fourth-grade reading level and its articles don't go nearly indepth enough.  It's like reading US Weekly without the amusing Paris Hilton bits.

Plus, a lot of you guys write better.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2007, 10:14:12 PM »
In all fairness Poz has one good quality. It's gentle on the buttocks.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2007, 10:22:01 PM »
It does not match the content of its counter part, aidsmeds...  Discontinued the subscription because it just didnt seem worth it..

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2007, 10:29:17 PM »

It's sort of like Stepford AIDS or something. 



Benj,

This is the best terminology I have heard in a long time!   

What was that little magazine we used to read in elementary school?
"HighLights" -- anyone remember that?     Anyway, that's what came to mind......
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2007, 10:35:46 PM »
Thanks!   :D

I remember Goofus and Gallant.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2007, 10:39:44 PM »
More Ad's then content   its just a money machine for  CDM Publishing, LLC
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2007, 10:45:49 PM »
O,O,O,......I used to love doing the hidden things puzzle picture.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2007, 10:57:25 PM »
Now I understand where the $19.97 went to when I had to pay for the 10 issues I get each or somewhat every month. It pays for all the ads.  :o

It is so neat there is this light switch in the middle of the booklet. " This isn't the only switch...

44 page magazine has 18 ads in it for $3.99.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2007, 11:00:58 PM »
Stepford AIDS is a good description.

Or HIVneyland.  It's HIV without all those pesky, farting, vomiting, MRSA infected people with the funny looking faces, bellies, and backs.  Just look at the covers.  They're HOT, they're HIP, they're PROFESSIONALS, they're STRAIGHT, they're GAY, they're WOMEN, they're MEN, but they are never, ever, UGLY, or frail, or sick looking.

But I do skim it when I go to the ID clinic.  Primarily to look at the drug ads.  I like to look at them, for some bizarre reason.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2007, 11:03:36 PM »
But I do skim it when I go to the ID clinic.  Primarily to look at the drug ads.  I like to look at them, for some bizarre reason.

Yeah.  So do I...because they are usually filled with hot looking guys doing fun things in exciting places that I wish I could afford to go to.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2007, 11:06:06 PM »
The Truvada ad:  "You've worked hard to get where you are....

you deserve an HIV med that's taken once a day."

1) first part of the statement:  TRUE

2) second part -- I wouldn't care if I had to take it FOUR times a day, if it didn't make me feel so damn bad!
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2007, 11:11:59 PM »
He knows he has HIV. He doesn't know his HIV puts him at risk for kidney disease.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2007, 11:41:00 PM »
Stepford AIDS is a good description.

Or HIVneyland.  It's HIV without all those pesky, farting, vomiting, MRSA infected people with the funny looking faces, bellies, and backs.  Just look at the covers.  They're HOT, they're HIP, they're PROFESSIONALS, they're STRAIGHT, they're GAY, they're WOMEN, they're MEN, but they are never, ever, UGLY, or frail, or sick looking.

Since you feel so strongly about it, why not take things a step further and start a thread in Off Topic inviting forum members to post lipo or MRSA or whatever self-pics (like, the antithesis to the Utter Narcissism thread started by Bucko) and entitle it "Hey Regan, nominate me for the next POZ cover!" ... Then contact Regan and ask her to look at it.

That's called extra action. Emphasis on the word extra because you voicing your opinion is already action. Better to light a candle than curse the darkness or whatever the saying is. I seriously don't understand why sssooo many feathers are ruffled over this

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2007, 11:46:05 PM »
Here's me when I had my MRSA last month.

It has cover written all over it.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2007, 11:58:59 PM »
Benj, you poor guy....

but you're still FABULOUS, even with MRSA  :-*
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2007, 11:59:31 PM »
Someone wanna tell me how to embed a picture?

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2007, 12:14:19 AM »
Maybe this will work.  More appropriate for the cover of  the Journal of Clinical Dermatology than POZ, but then, you asked to see.

Edited to add:  HIV-associated Psoriasis.  Imagine having that on 70% for your body.

For those who care, it's much better now.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2007, 12:50:17 AM »
Here's me when I had my MRSA last month.

It has cover written all over it.


With a sheet, yes.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2007, 12:52:40 AM »
Whizzer, you sure are a site for psoriasis.


(still here all week, folks.)
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2007, 01:01:35 AM »
Honestly, I glanced through Poz mag I think once when I was in doc office and then the farce that is going on with this month's Poz......HATED IT. I wouldn't use it to line Lucifer's litterbox with. If I have to subscribe to a magazine that represents me, I might as well buy Ebony/Jet/Essence, they're run by blacks and is about the only thing I have in common with it. Can't say I have anything in common with Poz magazine at all other than being Poz..
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2007, 01:14:02 AM »
tim.....

it's way, way past your bed time.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2007, 09:21:19 AM »

It's sort of like Stepford AIDS or something. 


Yet another nominee for 'Overheard in The Forums ' 

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2007, 12:14:30 PM »
Lwood, somehow I don't think that one will make it to "Overheard in the Forums"......

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2007, 01:22:23 PM »
Ya youre probably right, 
After reading this and the other thread about the general opinions on POZ magazine I really have to wonder if they ( Poz Magazine ) werent hoping to gain some ' Street Credability' by purchasing AIDSmeds,
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2007, 01:37:27 PM »
Ya youre probably right, 
After reading this and the other thread about the general opinions on POZ magazine I really have to wonder if they ( Poz Magazine ) werent hoping to gain some ' Street Credability' by purchasing AIDSmeds,

If that was any part of their plan, it seemed to have backfired. Very few AM members are fans, and they're obviously not equipped to express their side of this controversy in anything resembling real time.

The simmering dissatisfaction with the lack of response on the part of POZ mag's editorial staff will no doubt dissipate. But the fact that some members of AIDSmeds can incite the ire of so many others here and remain silent is troubling, but reality.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2007, 01:57:28 PM »
Damn Benji and Whizz!  I'm sure glad that you've improved, though.  I wonder if I have a pic somewhere of me in the hospital with all those IV bags and monitors on me... that's be a pretty picture, too.  I'm sure I can scan the Xrays of my lungs with a caption 'no, they're not white balloons' or something.  Seriously, though, what would make a decent cover would be a pic of a person when they're healthy, or between illnesses.  Then, the story inside could show some of what they've gone through along with the text describing it.  THAT would how a more realistic picture of AIDS / HIV than just the good or bad alone, in my opinion.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2007, 02:19:07 PM »
Being 35 and newly diagnosed (year and 1/2) thankfully not to much has gone wrong so far. But even I have problems, including with Poz mag. A lite read due to the ads that make up the majority of each issue.

Benj and Whizzer I think the pics are refreshing because even I know that things are not all glamourous. Thanks for sharing them. I would rather see honesty and integrity (no matter how disturbing it may be at times). This a pretty damn disturbing illness. As for the articles I think that they could be more varied and a little more informative. I might not be a rocket scientist but give me a little credit. I do praise them for being there and trying though. I think that there sugar coated viewpoint does need to change and I have read Poz even before I was +
In agreement with many. my two cents... for what it is woth.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2007, 04:42:10 PM »
Well the adds...

Seems that HIV is no big deal anymore!? Well I'm pretty new to this and this disease confuses me. The mag is glossy and it seems that being poz is no big deal. The weird thing is that in real life I've met other poz folks who are doing great as well. Actuallu I haven't met anyone who has severe health problems.

I don't know what to think about this mag. It confuses me. The whole atmosphere that hiv aint such a big deal... I don't get it.

Talking about adds. The Atripla Add really confuses me. Some kind of happy guy sitting on a big red 1. What do they wanna say? "One pill a day keeps the doctor away" or "well now you have HIV but Atripla will take care of you and life goes on". I don't know. The freaking thing about this disease is that I can't give it the right place in my mind. And the mag contributes to that. But I can't value the mag to be honest. I'm just to new to this.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #65 on: August 24, 2007, 12:47:57 AM »
whizer you missed the point but you also managed to miss the point while being a "shock jock" at the same time. i didn't ask to see your skin problems.  the point is candles, darkness. more candles, less darkness
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #66 on: August 24, 2007, 01:33:40 AM »


Just look at the covers.   

indeed!


Does it represent the face of Aids?

yup!

edited to quote question from original post

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #67 on: August 24, 2007, 02:07:38 AM »
Larry Kramer is the face of AIDS? Fuck that, I'm changin' to Hep C.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #68 on: August 24, 2007, 04:07:44 AM »
Larry Kramer is the face of AIDS? Fuck that, I'm changin' to Hep C.
does that mean you would prefer to be associated with anita roddick and pamela anderson? matty i thought more highly of you than that!  ;)
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #69 on: August 24, 2007, 04:31:32 AM »
Pamela and Matty the Damned share two things:

1. Big white tits;
2. An impressive capacity for cock.

:)

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #70 on: August 24, 2007, 04:46:13 AM »
Pamela and Matty the Damned share two things:

1. Big white tits;
2. An impressive capacity for cock.

:)

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #71 on: August 24, 2007, 04:53:34 AM »
Your Majesty,

Matty the Damned is loathe to correct royalty, but he has never been blessed with Hep C. There were a couple of near misses, but so far he's dodged that bullet.

;)

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2007, 11:14:30 AM »
whizer you missed the point but you also managed to miss the point while being a "shock jock" at the same time. i didn't ask to see your skin problems.  the point is candles, darkness. more candles, less darkness

I don't get how whizzer and benj "missed the point".  Isn't that exactly what you asked for just above their posts?  To post pics of "lipo, MRSA, whatever"?

more candles, less darkness?  i find the pics illuminating.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2007, 11:20:23 AM »
Confused as well - I thought they did what he dared them to do as well.

Granted it wasn't a new thread but I would suspect that POZ staff is looking at this one - if they aren't then we have a much bigger issue on our hands than we think.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2007, 12:07:28 PM »
Hey gang, time for a much needed update from all of us at Smart+Strong.  Regan Hofmann, POZ Magazine's editor-in-chief, is preparing a response to many of the concerns that have been raised in the forums this past week.  We're actually very short-staffed these days, with folks on vacation, etc. (it's August!).  But the main problem is that we've never really setup a formal way for POZ Magazine editorial to respond to the AIDSmeds Forums audience.

Frankly, until now, it hadn't hit our radars, since the forums folks don't appear to be regular readers of POZ Magazine, and until now, they haven't been commenting much on its content.  Most of those who have posted the harshest comments about the new cover story have also admitted they are not regular readers of the magazine -- correct me if I'm wrong about this.  POZ does have a rather large audience of regular readers, and they engage that audience regularly -- with monthly surveys, a healthy flow of email, constant outreach to the thousands of ASOs that distribute the magazine, and at face to face meetings at various AIDS conferences.  It had always been my impression that since these forums started on AIDSmeds.com, there hasn't been a lot of overlap between the two audiences.  We'd love for that to change, however, and with this week's brouhaha, hopefully it will. 

I'll take the blame here for not anticipating the need for having some dedicated POZ staff time for engaging our forums audience, and I'm going to work on fixing this.  In the mean time, expect a response from Regan soon, although please be patient if it doesn't appear until next week.  This is all hitting while a reduced staff is trying to "close" the October issue (for those of you who have ever worked at a magazine, you'll know how crazy a closing period can be).

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #75 on: August 24, 2007, 12:10:09 PM »
Peter,

It means a lot to me on this issue to have just a note that there is a plan to respond. 

Thank you.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #76 on: August 24, 2007, 12:30:22 PM »
*snip*

Peter, I won't quote everything you said, but I will state that I receive POZ magazine here at home.  I don't read it cover to cover religiously, but I will state that I went through each page of the last issue to count the amount of lipo in any face in the magazine and there was ZERO in any picture in the articles or any advertisement.  I actually have stacks and stacks of magazines here and I'm sure I have months and months of POZ issues as well, and I'm tempted to go through all of them and do a tally to see how representative the imagery is.  Like words, imagery is also importance.  I've complained repeatedly over the years about HIV medicationo/pharma advertising as have many others, but I don't really expect them to show this facet of living with HIV.  I also realize that POZ magazine probably does some sort of concerted market research of their readership to ascertain what goes into the magazine, but it is still my impression that the imagery in the magazine's articles and accompanying imagery has shifted over the past few years.  I distinctly recall that this was not the case years ago when I first noticed lipo in myself and many others in the HIV community (say around '99-'03 or so).  I can't recall when POZ began being printed, but living in NYC I always ran across it in doctor's offices, ASO's, and other support facilities so I'm sure I've been reading it in some form since the beginning of it's publication.

As far as all of the other issues discussed recently personally it does not bother me that Jesus is on the current cover, though the article is admittedly lame and fluffy.  Whatever... I guess I'd just flip to the next article and shrug my shoulders.  I'm congnisant of the fact that there are other recently diagnosed 19 year olds that may find the article useful and helpfully reinforcing (I'm being generous here).  I'm also aware that if only 15% of HIV-ers have lipo and the rest do not that any HIV publication will not plaster their pages with articles and imagery of this issue, but to ignore it is also not ethical.  (I'm focusing on lipo here but it could also apply to other LTS issues).  Still, regardless of whatever responses POZ gets in emails, opinion surveys, etc. it should be balanced with reality.

I'm also aware that just because Regan Hoffman is a very attractive woman with many style points folks on here are quick to slam her.  I'm not one to do this as if I didn't have lipo I'd still be strutting around town myself, so that's just the reality.  Such criticisms of a personal nature about the staff are not particularly useful.

Anyway, I'm happy that she will be responding here in the forums.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #77 on: August 24, 2007, 01:42:52 PM »
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #78 on: August 24, 2007, 01:58:10 PM »
Peter, thanks for the update and I will give Regan one "style point" ;D for her promised response. I hope Ms Chew decides to follow her lead.

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« Reply #79 on: August 24, 2007, 02:12:06 PM »
I'm looking forward to what Regan has to say.  Thanks for setting this up, Peter.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #80 on: August 24, 2007, 02:36:04 PM »
The admins on this site are very quick to quell any namecalling and derogatory usage of words  (think N word and other not so nice things).

Why then does POZ publish a quote in the cover article that uses 'flamer' as derogatory?  

In the cover article, there is a quote ďIím not the butchest thing ever, but [at least] Iím not a flamer,Ē says Sanchez."  

This would be exactly as if a hispanic person had said "I may not be white but at least I'm not a N****r.'

How do you possible find this acceptable?  That would get someone a severe warning in this forum if not banned outright.  Why is it allowed to do the same thing in the magazine you so chastize here?  

You've just alienated a group of people.  

Issue 2:  The recent cover issue I found totally worthless.  When I read poz, I rather expect to find an inspiring article about something someone has done if they are featured on the cover.  

The recent cover was void of any depth and purely a puff piece.  There are much more deserving people and issues to be highlighted on the cover.

If you want an article, look for a blogger who happens to post videos on youtube about living with hiv (not suggesting me).  He did pretty much the unthinkable in chronicalling his first few months of testing positive and starting meds in videos.    Look for the person who started a peer education something or other... jeez... look for a person who has done SOMETHING.....ANYTHING!  A person who reached out and did something for someone else or the 'cause'.

Another issue, you (poz) wonder why some forum members become upset.   I can name off my head a good 20 people in this forum that would have made a better cover story.   Perhaps you had some plan of tying together his newly infected status with change.... sadly, there was no change or even a point to the story.

That is was people are frustrated.  

It would be nice if a response was posted even if it is immediately locked for some clarification.

Oh, and cover amg this year.  It's a good story (regardless of the side drama).   Ignoring aidsmeds members is foolhardy as this is poz mag's greatest asset


edit to add:  composed before peter posted his response.  Glad regan is taking the time to at least address concerns.  I do think there is a larger percentage here at aidsmeds that do read poz or at least the email blurbs.  I know I read the poz website if not the actual print magazine regularly.  My perception is that many others do as well.  My perception is completely opposite of yours that actually the most active forum members are the ones who read it the least.  (probably becuase so much time is spent posting)
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #81 on: August 24, 2007, 03:12:29 PM »
I read it online once in awhile and, as with anything, some stuff I enjoy and some stuff not my cup of tea.

Such is life...

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #82 on: August 24, 2007, 03:18:15 PM »
btw, as far as the POZ web site goes I make use of their RSS feeds an subsribe to the treatment news section with my news aggregator program, as it's the section of POZ I'm interested in -- I don't care about the "lifestyle" sections myself, but they do not offend me either.  If you keep up daily/weekly with multiple news sources (HIV related or other) I highly recommend looking into a news aggregator as it really is a more efficient way of using your internet time.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #83 on: August 24, 2007, 03:34:54 PM »
Bailey -- I don't even know where to begin.  It sounds now like your just lashing out to settle a score for some previous grievance with us, because the arguments you're throwing out are like wild curve balls.  Why would a magazine's editorial policies have anything to do with the rules of how a community forum are run?  I'm not going to even try to explain this to you, because I'm guessing you already know they have nothing to do with eachother. 

The recent cover was void of any depth and purely a puff piece.  There are much more deserving people and issues to be highlighted on the cover.

This is wild, coming from you.  Haven't others (and I strongly disagree with them) said the same thing about your blog? 

Both (the cover story and your blog) offer interesting snapshots of the lives of two young men living with HIV, nothing more, nothing less.

I think you should both be proud of being so public about your HIV status.  You're both stigma busters in my book.

This is really wild, coming from you.  You almost sound jealous of Jesse.  If that offends, or if I'm way off base, I apologize in advance.

Peter

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #84 on: August 24, 2007, 04:05:36 PM »

and on that note, i withdraw.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #85 on: August 24, 2007, 04:32:59 PM »
Thank you for the response, Peter, and thank you for the clarification. I honestly had no idea you were active yourself in the publication of POZ magazine.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #86 on: August 24, 2007, 04:46:08 PM »
well kiddos if you dont like my idea (#49), simply light a new candle (i.e. new idea)

e.g.

who from these forums do you want to see on the cover of POZ? (and why?)

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #87 on: August 24, 2007, 04:51:07 PM »
It's time to blow out your candles, Laura

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« Reply #88 on: August 24, 2007, 05:19:42 PM »
oh snap!  :D ZING!

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #89 on: August 24, 2007, 06:26:09 PM »
Thank you for the response, Peter, and thank you for the clarification. I honestly had no idea you were active yourself in the publication of POZ magazine.

Bucko -- just to clarify, I'm not a staff person with POZ Magazine.  I'm the founder of AIDSmeds.com, which is owned by Smart+Strong, which also owns POZ Magazine, Real Health Magazine, POZ.com and realhealth.com.  I am considered part of the senior management team at Smart+Strong, but only because I lead one of it's websites.  I certainly try to keep my ear to the ground with what's going on at POZ Magazine, and offer my advice from time to time (along with story ideas), and I have a blast working with most of it's staff at conferences, etc.  In my mind, they are an amazing team that's really committed to putting out a magazine people living with HIV can learn from and be inspired by, and a magazine that at times might provoke its readers to think about the varied issues we all deal with.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #90 on: August 24, 2007, 06:39:21 PM »
Hey Peter, who do I email at Poz.com to report broken links for articles on their web site.  I think I've found two in the treatment news section just today:

for example:

"Cost Shouldn't Be Obstacle to Lipo Treatment"

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #91 on: August 24, 2007, 06:59:06 PM »
Bucko -- just to clarify, I'm not a staff person with POZ Magazine.  I'm the founder of AIDSmeds.com, which is owned by Smart+Strong, which also owns POZ Magazine, Real Health Magazine, POZ.com and realhealth.com.  I am considered part of the senior management team at Smart+Strong, but only because I lead one of it's websites.  I certainly try to keep my ear to the ground with what's going on at POZ Magazine, and offer my advice from time to time (along with story ideas), and I have a blast working with most of it's staff at conferences, etc.  In my mind, they are an amazing team that's really committed to putting out a magazine people living with HIV can learn from and be inspired by, and a magazine that at times might provoke its readers to think about the varied issues we all deal with.

Peter

Thank you again for the response and the clarification. As a member here for over two years, I was aware of your bio but unclear on the nature of your relationship with POZ magazine. I vividly remember the whole S&S/AM conjunction, along with the switch to this new software and forum structure last year.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #92 on: August 24, 2007, 08:56:14 PM »
Hi Philly:

I'll look into fixing the link to the stories via the POZ.com homepage -- sorry 'bout that. In the meantime, you can always trying accessing the treatment news-related articles I post through the AIDSmeds.com homepage.

This link is working:

http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/1667_12799.shtml

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Edited to say that all "Treatment News" links are now working via POZ.com.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #93 on: August 24, 2007, 09:18:33 PM »
Thanks Mr. Horn :)  I was not aware that one could access treatment news through the aidsmeds.com section.  Kind of confusing.

I've suggested just what is stated in that article, and yes I think that the healthcare system has an obligation to cover PERMANENT fillers for lipo.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #94 on: August 24, 2007, 10:16:37 PM »
Your Majesty,

Matty the Damned is loathe to correct royalty, but he has never been blessed with Hep C. There were a couple of near misses, but so far he's dodged that bullet.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #95 on: August 24, 2007, 10:22:28 PM »
It's cool babe. Matty had a near miss after a needle sharing snafu a while back. It's probably that you're remembering. :-*

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #96 on: August 24, 2007, 10:44:38 PM »
I guess my post stems from the other thread but Peter said if anything else was to be said to post it here so....

I will not take back anything I said in my previous posts in the other thread. I will not back peddle but as I said before, I have nothing personal against Jesse, none of my post said that, what I have a problem with was some of the things he said in the article and on his MySpace blog. And before anyone decides to throw up quotes about me referring to him as flaming, well I do, sorry, read some of his previous posts, what would you think? And like I said I have nothing against flaming queens, I think they are cool. I mean I thought opinions were like assholes everyone has one. Yeah, I'm full of cliches, I know.

On to the Poz Mag staff. Just like everyone else, I thought they could have done better. As Peter has stated, he told them not to respond to the posts and for us to send email. True, I could do that and understands why Peter said not to, emotions were running a bit high, mine included. But sending an email just to have no reply seems a bit empty to me and more like a one sided conversation. And to me, I would feel like I am being ignored and I must admit I have a problem with not being acknowledged. It's like saying, " I see you but be gone" That just doesn't sit well with me. I know the staff has read the other thread but thinks it would be nice to at least start a thread or send Peter their side of the story and what they think of the responses in the other thread and he post it in a thread and then lock the thread so there can be no responses. I mean work with me, please. I don't expect it to go down like I requested but it would be nice to be acknowledged....Just saying....

Modified to add: Just read over what I said. Yeah, there could be responses by starting a new thread but you can only beat a dead horse so long...Would someone really do that? I guess they would. I guess I answered my own question....Must be smoking some that weed that makes you think harder..... ;D
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #97 on: August 25, 2007, 01:37:16 AM »
Matty the Damned thinks people need to understand something. What he's about to say next is not directed at the Queen, Matty knows where she's coming from.

Before Doxie started this thread he and I discussed it at some length, in particular that it was important that the greater issue of Poz, it's role and other things were broached. We also felt that it was important that such a thread was not used as a vehicle to kick the shit out of Jesus Sanchez.

You might have noticed that Dox and I have been very careful in this thread & in the other one which Peter mercifully locked to focus our guns at Poz and it's senior staff -- namely Miss Hoffman and Miss Chew. If those two are the decent people Peter says they are then they have a fair bit of explaining to do somewhere along the line.

Especially to Jesus.

Guys, it's time for some of you to lay the fuck off Jesse. I've never see a member of this place subjected to such a concerted tirade.

Seriously. He gets the message. Believe me, I've spoken to him. For those of you who intended to hurt him, mission accomplished. He's hurting. You should be feeling quite proud of yourselves.

The issue has never really been Jesus. He was just caught up in the crossfire and as Andy reminded us sometime back, he's just a kid. By all means piss on Poz, but leave the boy out of it. Doxie's point in starting this thread was to debate issues not defame one of our HIV+ brothers.

Yes Jesus is a bit of a flamer. So am I. Yes Jesus can be criticised for what he puts on the Net, just as any of us can. Yes, Jesus' entry to our Forum was a bit tortured and unfortunate, but he's definitely paid for any mistakes he made.

But don't derail this thread just to beat some gay kid from Miami up. Some of you might think you're real hard arses when you do it, but remember that you're not as witty, clever or as tough as you think you are.

Ya dig?

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #98 on: August 25, 2007, 03:12:02 AM »
As far as I am concerned, Matty... I trust your good judgment.

I have been hurt on here as the end result of certain youthful and idiotic comments I chose to make on here during a certain debate.  If you were there, you remember what I'm referring to.  For it was nasty.

I would like to flatter myself into thinking that I learned from that experience... and perhaps managed to somehow grow as a human because of it.

I was given forgiveness and an opportunity by this community after I apologized for acting like a damn fool and managing to make nothing more than a supreme ass of myself. 

This, as far as I can tell, has been forgotten.

Personally, I am willing to extend the same.   
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #99 on: August 25, 2007, 03:16:39 AM »

This, as far as I can tell, has been forgotten.  


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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #100 on: August 25, 2007, 03:20:18 AM »
Naw, I remember it clearly! ;)

Ha!  I meant that people have charitably chosen to not mention it to me since.   :D

There is a major emphasis on the charity there.

I might be an insufferable prick, but I have the good sense to be embarassed for completely disregarding the somewhat decent upbringing I was given.   ;)
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #101 on: August 25, 2007, 08:42:28 AM »
Queen Akasha:

Just wondering if you caught my post above:  http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=14867.msg188134#msg188134

Peter

I guess my post stems from the other thread but Peter said if anything else was to be said to post it here so....

I will not take back anything I said in my previous posts in the other thread. I will not back peddle but as I said before, I have nothing personal against Jesse, none of my post said that, what I have a problem with was some of the things he said in the article and on his MySpace blog. And before anyone decides to throw up quotes about me referring to him as flaming, well I do, sorry, read some of his previous posts, what would you think? And like I said I have nothing against flaming queens, I think they are cool. I mean I thought opinions were like assholes everyone has one. Yeah, I'm full of cliches, I know.

On to the Poz Mag staff. Just like everyone else, I thought they could have done better. As Peter has stated, he told them not to respond to the posts and for us to send email. True, I could do that and understands why Peter said not to, emotions were running a bit high, mine included. But sending an email just to have no reply seems a bit empty to me and more like a one sided conversation. And to me, I would feel like I am being ignored and I must admit I have a problem with not being acknowledged. It's like saying, " I see you but be gone" That just doesn't sit well with me. I know the staff has read the other thread but thinks it would be nice to at least start a thread or send Peter their side of the story and what they think of the responses in the other thread and he post it in a thread and then lock the thread so there can be no responses. I mean work with me, please. I don't expect it to go down like I requested but it would be nice to be acknowledged....Just saying....

Modified to add: Just read over what I said. Yeah, there could be responses by starting a new thread but you can only beat a dead horse so long...Would someone really do that? I guess they would. I guess I answered my own question....Must be smoking some that weed that makes you think harder..... ;D

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #102 on: August 25, 2007, 08:27:34 PM »
Peter~~

No, I did not see that post, thanks for making it available. I look forward to seeing what Reagan has to say. I appreciate the fact that you are working on a way for both sides to correspond. It's nice to be acknowledged.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #103 on: August 25, 2007, 10:28:47 PM »
Without getting back into all the issues involved, I would submit that the reason a brouhaha broke out over the article was because the subjects of articles in the magazine generally do not call attention to said articles in the forum.  I don't think this is SOP around here.

This may be, perhaps, why the shitstorm occured.

It would appear that the attempt to generate buzz about the article worked a little too well.   
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #104 on: August 25, 2007, 10:31:13 PM »
Oh... please.  Do you REALLY think it's that simple?

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #105 on: August 25, 2007, 10:37:09 PM »
Oh... please.  Do you REALLY think it's that simple?

Color me flabbergasted.

I'm not talking about the issues raised in the shitstorm.  Those are very complex.

However, I'm not entirely sure that this forum would have been so engaged in that particular article if we weren't quite literally directed to the cover story.

I hardly ever look at Poz's internet content, much less have anything to say about it.  Most people don't seem to post too much about Poz articles, unless it relates to treatment news. 

Yes, I think this particular issue was a catalyst for discussing a lot of problems people have with Poz... but I don't think that there's anything particularly grabbing about the article per se that would have made me click on the link if I hadn't been told to by the subject of the cover story.

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« Reply #106 on: August 25, 2007, 10:39:09 PM »
I'm not talking about the issues raised in the shitstorm.  Those are very complex.

However, I'm not entirely sure that this forum would have been so engaged in that particular article if we weren't quite literally directed to the cover story.

I hardly ever look at Poz's internet content, much less have anything to say about it.  Most people don't seem to post too much about Poz articles, unless it relates to treatment news. 

Yes, I think this particular issue was a catalyst for discussing a lot of problems people have with Poz... but I don't think that there's anything particularly grabbing about the article per se that would have made me click on the link if I hadn't been told to by the subject of the cover story.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #107 on: August 25, 2007, 10:45:16 PM »

Does that make sense?

No.  I think it was more to do with the person in question, how he arrived here on the board, glittery myspace pages, Anna Nicole Smith... blah blah blah

You know, rather moronic issues really.  It's not that complex in light of the fact so many here openly admit to not reading Poz in the first place.

Say the person with the cover article had been a graceful 45 year old that had just sauntered in one day, politely said "hello" and said that they're going to be on the cover of Poz for this and that reason.  Nobody would have said much here except "Nice.  Good for you.  Look forward to reading it."
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« Reply #108 on: August 25, 2007, 10:48:13 PM »
also agreed in entirety
which brings me to conclude that the two of you are basically saying the same thing
unless im wrong
in which case i think a combination of what both those guys are saying...whatever that is  ???
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« Reply #109 on: August 25, 2007, 10:53:55 PM »
also agreed in entirety
which brings me to conclude that the two of you are basically saying the same thing
unless im wrong
in which case i think a combination of what both those guys are saying...whatever that is  ???

We're saying the same thing, but I'm making an entirely different point by way of how I'm saying it.  Hence why I said it's not that simple.

I may spell it all out later but will let others have a go at further discussion in the meantime.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #110 on: August 25, 2007, 11:02:54 PM »
hoping you didnt think by what i said that i thought this issue simplistic - not at all, i just meant i appreciated and agreed with all you were both saying. this whole thing has been felt and debated on so many levels. and to be honest ive thought that above all the passion and disagreements that have been felt and expressed i have felt proud that so many people have felt and spoken so passionately and eloquently about something that sums up a huge part of future and public perception of the diaspora of people and experiences living with hiv.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #111 on: August 25, 2007, 11:04:25 PM »
I actually think edfu said it best about that issue a couple of days ago

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=14852.msg187293#msg187293

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« Reply #112 on: August 25, 2007, 11:05:57 PM »
Well, 19 year olds with glittery myspace pages and Anna Nicole signature imagery ARE part of the HIV diaspora.

That's my larger point.
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« Reply #113 on: August 25, 2007, 11:15:35 PM »
Well, 19 year olds with glittery myspace pages and Anna Nicole signature imagery ARE part of the HIV diaspora.

That's my larger point.
in the nicest possible way, i sometimes wish that we could choose who we are comrades in this disease with.
now that will really confuse people - 'poz girl thinks it should only happen to nice people who make sense'
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« Reply #114 on: August 25, 2007, 11:20:35 PM »
in the nicest possible way, i sometimes wish that we could choose who we are comrades in this disease with.
now that will really confuse people - 'poz girl thinks it should only happen to nice people who make sense'
hoping you get what i mean

We should all be mindful that we don't chose our family members, be they by blood line or by disease line.  These are simple concepts.

As someone who has reconciled greatly in the past few years with his blood family I will state that letting go of parochial desires for an echo chamber have made me a better person.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #115 on: August 25, 2007, 11:23:52 PM »
I actually think edfu said it best about that issue a couple of days ago

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=14852.msg187293#msg187293

Only if you live in a fantasy world where you actually expect to personally like every person who will appear on the cover of a glossy mag.

I'm so perplexed by all of this really.  I wasn't at first, but the more I reflected on it I arrived at my current state.

I'm as disappointed with this board as I am with the glittery myspace page and Anna Nicole signature line.

C'mon people.
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« Reply #116 on: August 25, 2007, 11:28:28 PM »
Only if you live in a fantasy world where you actually expect to personally like every person who will appear on the cover of a glossy mag.

To answer your rhetorical question:  Nope, I don't

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« Reply #117 on: August 25, 2007, 11:29:41 PM »
We should all be mindful that we don't chose our family members, be they by blood line or by disease line.  These are simple concepts.

As someone who has reconciled greatly in the past few years with his blood family I will state that letting go of parochial desires for an echo chamber have made me a better person.
ouch

obviously you didnt get what i meant

ps im old enough to know that not only do wishes not come true but also that you should be careful what you wish for. i wrote with awareness of these facts, but also with a wish that people could use their situation for the better of themselves and others

pps hoping that those who know me also think im always receptive to hearing others' points of view even if they arent the same as my own, and that im already an ok person, but one who is still striving to become better (and never thought her desires would be described as parochial)
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« Reply #118 on: August 25, 2007, 11:32:49 PM »
most of us arent pretty, and there isnt a person knocking at the door to interview/photogragh us...

It is what it is.. as lame as it may be sex sells... (dude had no underware on)  

Too bad they dont get it...

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #119 on: August 25, 2007, 11:36:34 PM »
most of us arent pretty, and there isnt a person knocking at the door to interview/photogragh us...

It is what it is.. as lame as it may be sex sells... (dude had no underware on)  

Too bad they dont get it...

fuckers




That is so damn irrelevant.  So only ugly people are allowed on the cover?  That's as narrow minded as only placing endless Jesse clones on the cover.

Thanks for reinforcing my larger point.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #120 on: August 25, 2007, 11:37:00 PM »
ouch

obviously you didnt get what i meant

ps im old enough to know that not only do wishes not come true but also that you should be careful what you wish for. i wrote with awareness of these facts, but also with a wish that people could use their situation for the better of themselves and others

pps hoping that those who know me also think im always receptive to hearing others' points of view even if they arent the same as my own, and that im already an ok person, but one who is still striving to become better (and never thought her desires would be described as parochial)

Oh dear, I didn't really for that to sound like so much of an attack on you personally.  You just reflected what I think so many others are thinking, so I threw that out there out of a larger frustration.
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« Reply #121 on: August 25, 2007, 11:40:13 PM »
thanks xxx
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« Reply #122 on: August 25, 2007, 11:41:37 PM »
This thread is raising my anxiety levels and I wish I had some klonopin.
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« Reply #123 on: August 25, 2007, 11:44:46 PM »
You just reflected what I think so many others are thinking
does this mean i should be poz cover material??!!...  :P

please dont answer that  ;D
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #124 on: August 25, 2007, 11:46:47 PM »
This thread is raising my anxiety levels and I wish I had some klonopin.

i have some.. you are more than welcome to have. :)

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« Reply #125 on: August 26, 2007, 12:16:00 AM »
Jan, just a little update on some education of drug useage. The word slamming, came in, in the 60's and it was widely referenced to Herion(IV) useage not meth. Herion users still use the word, "slamming" today.

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« Reply #126 on: August 26, 2007, 04:40:28 AM »
I actually think edfu said it best about that issue a couple of days ago

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=14852.msg187293#msg187293

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« Reply #127 on: August 26, 2007, 04:51:26 AM »
i have some.. you are more than welcome to have. :)

bry
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If anyone's sharing...I could really use some too.

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« Reply #128 on: August 26, 2007, 04:58:53 AM »
If I had known how popular this was, and we were together, I'd gladly share.  I've managed to squirrel away around 240 1 mg. clonazepams (generic).  Rx reads to take 3 a day, but I take only 1 a day.  Psychiatrist says it has a huge half-life.  I only wish it made me feel what everyone else obviously experiences, because I don't feel anything particularly noticeable.  I've tried taking 3 mg. for insomnia, and even that doesn't work!   
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« Reply #129 on: August 26, 2007, 05:02:07 AM »
If I had known how popular this was, and we were together, I'd gladly share.  I've managed to squirrel away around 240 1 mg. clonazepams (generic).  Rx reads to take 3 a day, but I take only 1 a day.  Psychiatrist says it has a huge half-life.  I only wish it made me feel what everyone else obviously experiences, because I don't feel anything particularly noticeable.  I've tried taking 3 mg. for insomnia, and even that doesn't work!   

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« Reply #130 on: August 26, 2007, 05:07:10 AM »
Sure, but we're at opposite ends of the east coast.  I'm curious, though.  Can you describe what it is that you feel from it?  Just a stoned feeling?  Euphoria?  Relaxed?  Sexy?  What?  Sure it's your ears that perked up?

...talk about hijacking a very important thread.
 
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« Reply #131 on: August 26, 2007, 05:17:51 AM »
Sure, but we're at opposite ends of the east coast.  I'm curious, though.  Can you describe what it is that you feel from it?  Just a stoned feeling?  Euphoria?  Relaxed?  Sexy?  What?  Sure it's your ears that perked up?

...talk about hijacking a very important thread.
 

It's like a very gentle, time released Valium. It soothes without being obvious.

But mixed with booze, it kicks you to the floor...not that I would.
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« Reply #132 on: August 26, 2007, 10:58:12 AM »
If I had known how popular this was, and we were together, I'd gladly share.  I've managed to squirrel away around 240 1 mg. clonazepams (generic).  Rx reads to take 3 a day, but I take only 1 a day.  Psychiatrist says it has a huge half-life.  I only wish it made me feel what everyone else obviously experiences, because I don't feel anything particularly noticeable.  I've tried taking 3 mg. for insomnia, and even that doesn't work!   

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« Reply #133 on: August 26, 2007, 11:01:36 AM »

But mixed with booze, it kicks you to the floor...not that I would.

Oh, I have such a great story on mixing it with something else entirely, but if I posted something about it I would be horribly judged by the Holy Trinity (cloaking device ON) resident(s) of the board.
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« Reply #134 on: August 26, 2007, 11:04:39 AM »
Whenever I get Klonopin, I chew it.

It's sort of sweet in a powdery kind of way.

I had several Konnies at once... with booze.  Nummy treat. 

I walked around like a slack-jawed zombie for a good 48 hours.  It was pretty sweet.
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« Reply #135 on: August 26, 2007, 11:07:05 AM »
Barbara please -- grind it up and snort it.   It's like inhaling ice cubes but it will have you digging holes in the wood floors.  Trust!
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« Reply #136 on: August 26, 2007, 11:30:43 AM »
Barbara please -- grind it up and snort it.   It's like inhaling ice cubes but it will have you digging holes in the wood floors.  Trust!


See, snorting only lets you get a small percentage of the drug, ingesting orally gets you about 90%. 

Snorting hits you faster, but we wanted buck, not bang.  Or something.   ;)


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« Reply #137 on: August 26, 2007, 11:35:30 AM »
Why don't you shove em up your poopers. Heaven knows that where everything else you love ends up. Ends up....unintended funny.

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« Reply #138 on: August 26, 2007, 11:40:12 AM »
Why don't you shove em up your poopers. Heaven knows that where everything else you love ends up. Ends up....unintended funny.

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« Reply #139 on: August 26, 2007, 11:57:54 AM »
on a personal note, I think you are aces and a jolly good sport. :-*

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« Reply #140 on: August 26, 2007, 12:08:52 PM »

See, snorting only lets you get a small percentage of the drug, ingesting orally gets you about 90%. 

Snorting hits you faster, but we wanted buck, not bang.  Or something.   ;)


Bang for buck didn't matter when I had a bottle of 240 1mg pills in front of me, only ultimate effect.  Snorting did entirely different things for some reason, so much so that I at one point I had to muster self-discipline and halt such shenanigans.

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« Reply #141 on: August 26, 2007, 12:09:19 PM »
Thanks to MtD and philly for articulating what I had been feeling, in a far better manner than I could.  Suffice to say that if I had received the supportive welcome our 19 year old friend had, I would have headed toward the nearest gas oven without a match.

As to Poz, I've never read it.  My doc's office never stocked it and my magazine buying habit is limited to car and plane mags with the occasional men's fitness magazine if there's a hottie on the cover (oops, my shallowness revealed).
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #142 on: August 26, 2007, 12:11:19 PM »
Yeah, if I had had to post lab reports and photo IDs on here to prove that I was positive a year ago I think I would have high tailed it elsewhere.
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« Reply #143 on: August 26, 2007, 12:40:30 PM »
I think the real issue here is that people do not feel represented by POZ magazine. The real question is why? Well, if you ever look at any magazine, let us take a diabetes mag for example. They will also put nice pleasant pictures of people enjoying their lives. Is this the case for everyone with this disease, no. My mom has had horrible complications with it.

I agree with Matty that bashing a 19 year old is catty at best. This from a forum member who keeps throwing out the designer names in his closet. How much more superficial can you get than that? If you have issue with the content, then ask for change in a constructive way.  We all have flaws, and a glittery myspace ad may not be for you (or me). But, this is what young people are doing.

Anyone with HIV breaks my heart, but especially a 19 year old. I do not think he is putting out the reality that his life may  not always be so glam. This is one person they chose to profile. If you want other types of people featured, let them know.

As someone who has been through several not so pretty battles with this disease, I can see the outrage if all that is being said is that HIV is no big deal, but I doubt that is the only message that POZ mag is putting out. I for one am happy when people are doing great with the new treatments and hope that the curent assessment of life expectancy for people today is what we are being told.

Again, I see a big ongoing resentment that the newly diagnosed are not suffering like the ones before, and that they live in la-la land. It is their reality for now. Maybe not for me or others on here. Who knows if the optimism is true. All I know is I was dying before the meds came along, and as long as I have some semblance of a life, I will continue to be thankful for what is available today, even if my mug never makes it on a cover.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #144 on: August 26, 2007, 12:55:42 PM »
Whether or not someone is superficial is irrelevant both to the conversation and to POZ cover selections.  Superficial people get HIV.

ugh... I'm so over all of this.  Seriously.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #145 on: August 26, 2007, 01:15:52 PM »
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #146 on: August 26, 2007, 01:18:59 PM »
::summons Mr. Warhol::

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #147 on: August 26, 2007, 05:13:39 PM »
Oh... please.  Do you REALLY think it's that simple?

Color me flabbergasted.

Invite commentary and you might not get the response you expect.

For the record, it is kinda that simple.  I saw the article on the poz website before reading the thread here.  I didn't know jesse was a member until after that.  I wasn't influenced at all by any of his prior activity here in the forums.

Something about this all seems very similar to the whole CSI thing.  Great idea. Poor execution, delivery and content.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #148 on: August 26, 2007, 05:43:11 PM »
Invite commentary and you might not get the response you expect.

For the record, it is kinda that simple.  I saw the article on the poz website before reading the thread here.  I didn't know jesse was a member until after that.  I wasn't influenced at all by any of his prior activity here in the forums.

Something about this all seems very similar to the whole CSI thing.  Great idea. Poor execution, delivery and content.


It really bears pointing out that the whole "at least" part of the "at least I'm not a flamer" quote you attributed to jesse was not his, but yours.  As it was, jesse was only making a statement about falling somewhere in the middle of the butch-to-feminine range...not making a derogatory slight towards the more feminine among us.

That part was manufactured by you, dingo.  The exact quote from the  article is below.

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Nor does Sanchez have gay teenagers for friends or loversóand he doesnít particularly want any. ďThe young gay guys, they hate on you,Ē he says. They discriminate against ďfeminineĒ men, he says, just like the straight boys in fifth grade PE class who called him a fag. (ďIím not the butchest thing ever, but Iím not a flamer,Ē says Sanchez.)
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #149 on: August 26, 2007, 05:58:35 PM »
brackets my dear.  brackets.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #150 on: August 26, 2007, 06:02:18 PM »
brackets my dear.  brackets.

yes, dear- brackets.  i know what they are.  i just don't get what your motive was in using them because in doing so you changed the intention of his words- and then built up a giant missive based on that. 
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #151 on: August 26, 2007, 06:05:42 PM »
yes, dear- brackets.  i know what they are.  i just don't get what your motive was in using them because in doing so you changed the intention of his words- and then built up a giant missive based on that. 

agreed.  when using brackets, its implying thats what he meant even though it wasnt actually the exact words he used.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #152 on: August 26, 2007, 06:08:17 PM »
Actually they're parentheses not brackets.  ::)

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #153 on: August 26, 2007, 06:09:03 PM »
well, let's ask him then.

and it's brackets.

brackets vs. parentheses

    Brackets [ ] are used to enclose explanatory material inserted into a quotation by someone other than the original writer or person being quoted, parentheses ( ) when the original writer or person being quoted is making the addition: ďHai [yes],Ē he answered when the telephone operator asked if he spoke Cantonese; ďHai (that means yes) was my answer when the operator asked if I spoke Cantonese,Ē he proudly told me.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #154 on: August 26, 2007, 06:14:10 PM »
Actually they're parentheses not brackets.  ::)

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we call these parantheses:  ( )
and these brackets:  [ ]

am i wrong about that?

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #155 on: August 26, 2007, 06:16:34 PM »
No quite correct, Matty the Damned is still waking up. Blurred vision etc. Continue Youth Pastor Tim!

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #156 on: August 26, 2007, 06:19:32 PM »
No quite correct, Matty the Damned is still waking up. Blurred vision etc. Continue Youth Pastor Tim!

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the sad thing is that i still had to think on it and ask.   ::)
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #157 on: August 26, 2007, 06:20:52 PM »

(why do i feel like miss south carolina all of the sudden?)


Nah youre nothing like her.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #158 on: August 26, 2007, 06:22:45 PM »
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well, let's ask him then.

ask who?  jesse?

i think it's pretty clear from the context of the rest of the paragraph that he didn't intend any slight toward feminine gays.

if still in doubt, just look here:


http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=14599.0


post 10
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #159 on: August 26, 2007, 06:23:57 PM »
Who'd be curious to hear what Miss S Carolina thinks of Poz magazine

In her absence Jeff, you make an excellent substitute.  ::)

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #160 on: August 26, 2007, 06:25:39 PM »
Who'd be curious to hear what Miss S Carolina thinks of Poz magazine

In her absence Jeff, you make an excellent substitute.  ::)

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I left myself wide open for that one.   :D

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #161 on: August 26, 2007, 06:45:25 PM »
ask who?  jesse?

i think it's pretty clear from the context of the rest of the paragraph that he didn't intend any slight toward feminine gays.

if still in doubt, just look here:


http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=14599.0


post 10

Rest of the paragraph?  That was the end of the paragraph.  As for the picture, that's irrelevant and does not bring any context.  If you want to rehash everything, we can.  Wouldn't it be better to wait on regan?

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #162 on: August 26, 2007, 06:47:28 PM »
[] = square brackets
{} = curly brackets or squirlilili bruckets
() = round brackets or parenthesis or cheeks

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #163 on: August 26, 2007, 06:50:23 PM »
[] = square brackets
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() = round brackets or parenthesis or cheeks

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #164 on: August 26, 2007, 06:51:39 PM »
*snickers*

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #165 on: August 26, 2007, 06:52:41 PM »
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I like these cheeks better.
Yer a bit tight, mister.
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mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #166 on: August 26, 2007, 07:04:14 PM »
Yer a bit tight, mister.

you say that like its a problem.   ::)

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #167 on: August 26, 2007, 07:07:15 PM »
From a young person's perspective I think Jaser would be a fascinating interview. I bet he has some insights and stories people might be interested in knowing about.

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« Reply #168 on: August 26, 2007, 07:44:52 PM »
Absolutely Auntie D. As a number of people here know, Jaser could offer the most revealing insights.

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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #169 on: August 26, 2007, 08:02:36 PM »
Rest of the paragraph?  That was the end of the paragraph.  As for the picture, that's irrelevant and does not bring any context.  If you want to rehash everything, we can.  Wouldn't it be better to wait on regan?


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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #170 on: August 26, 2007, 09:46:11 PM »
I think Jaser would be an excellent choice for a feature story.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #171 on: August 26, 2007, 10:10:24 PM »
For legal reasons, he would have to get signed permission from his parents.  And, of course, he'd have to be willing.  Posting so wisely (but pseudonymously) in this forum and going public at his age in a national magazine are two extremely different things.  My personal opinion is that it would cause him more stress than any of us should have to undergo.  That is a sad reality. 
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #172 on: August 26, 2007, 10:11:58 PM »
Jaser, Jaser, he's our man, if he can't do it nobody can.... ;D....Who is willing to be a cheerleader for the Smaller One. ;) But Edfu does make a very valid point.
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Re: What do people think of Poz Magazine?
« Reply #173 on: August 26, 2007, 11:10:50 PM »
Am I being dense or is "going public" in Poz magazine wildly different than going public in Vanity Fair?  I've only ever seen a copy of Poz in the confines of a doctor's office, and even then only an HIV specialist.  I mean, yeah there is a web site and all so it's not non-public exactly but it's certainly less risky than posing in Honcho.
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