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Offline bear60

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Erections
« on: July 01, 2006, 04:58:32 PM »
How many guys here have partners who cannot achieve an erection any more.  And has this affected your relationship?  My partner has been struggling with this problem for a long time...and since we were very sexual in the beginning of our relationship it's been a problem for me.  He just doesnt seem the same guy anymore. Not that he isnt sexy and I still love him, but he never initiates sex anymore but wants me to.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2006, 12:31:52 PM by bear60 »
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Offline Andy Velez

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Re: Erections
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2006, 11:40:04 PM »
Bear, pretty much everyone experiences some slowing down after the initial period of first careless rapture in a relationship.

A few questions come to mind. First of all, has your partner had things checked out with his doctor to look for any physiological source(s) for the problem.

Secondly, how's the level of intimacy in general in your relationship? You say he has trouble getting hard but that he wants you to initiate sex with him. So that doesn't sound like someone who's not interested.

If you will, say some more about what goes on when you have sex, how open you each are about making clear what you want sexually and what you enjoy, etc. Does he have any ideas about why he has trouble getting hard? Does he get hard sometimes and if so, what's the difference between circumstances then and other occasions?

Thanks for bringing this difficult subject up.

 
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Re: Erections
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2006, 03:24:29 AM »
Andy..... this is all due to the HIV meds he is taking.  or should I say has been taking for the past 17 years.  He just cant get it up...period.
Except...well let me see ...with Viagra. But since he nearly had a heart attack due to the high cholesterol from lipodystrophy.... he has been reluctant to take Viagra.
Its not that he isnt interested...its just that ....nothing happens.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2006, 03:28:25 AM by bear60 »
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Offline RapidRod

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Re: Erections
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2006, 06:47:35 AM »
What's his Testosterone level. He may have ED due to Testosterone levels.

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Re: Erections
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2006, 08:32:11 AM »
Also check into any antidepressants he might be taking.  ED and loss of libido are well documented side effects of SSRI's.  An antidepressant might be easier to change vs. another med.

Sae.
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Re: Erections
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2006, 10:19:13 AM »
Blood pressure meds will deflate the willy too.

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Re: Erections
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2006, 11:01:42 AM »
Bear, it seems a likely place to start to I am wondering if you guys discussed this problem with his/your doctor? And what their responses have been.
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Re: Erections
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2006, 11:59:06 AM »
Yea......its all been discussed with doctors and he WAS.... a few years ago... using a testosterone patch...then some other medication I cant remember and he was NOT happy with side effects. So, he stopped taking anything for the erection problem.
I am basically asking if anyone else has had to deal with this.....I am NOT asking for a diagnosis.  But I appreciate the responses from:
BB...He is not on any blood pressure meds
SAE.... He is not taking any anti depressants
Rapidrod....hey do you live up to your name??? lol anyway..yes the testosterone levels are probably an issue.
Andy.... we have been together for 13 years and I guess the "newness" wore off about ten years ago.  Now if we have sex twice a year its a surprise. Or maybe its seasonal...OK honey time for our "summer sex now"....only three more months till fall sex.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2006, 12:33:50 PM by bear60 »
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Offline PDXRon31

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Re: Erections
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2006, 12:25:39 PM »
Hey Bear60,

 Although I thankfully have not had to deal with this issue personally, I have a friend who cannot take Viagra either and he and his partner use a drug called Caverject. The concept freaks the hell out of me, but I believe it is a drug injected into the penis. I looked it up online and found this for you:

Alprostadil belongs to a class of medications known as prostaglandins. Prostaglandins like alprostadil cause increased blood flow to certain areas of the body by causing the blood vessels in the area to widen. In particular, an alprostadil injection causes increased blood flow to the penis. It allows more blood to flow into the penis and produce an erection. This makes the medication useful for treatment of erectile dysfunction (also known as male impotence). The goal is to achieve erections that last up to one hour.

 At any rate, you aren't looking for "diagnosis" as you have said, so I am offerring up this as a possible solution. Good luck!
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Re: Erections
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2006, 12:30:58 PM »
thanks PDX Ron.......but I dont think that he would go for that either.  He does not do well with needles.
I still feel there must be some other couple out there who has gone thru this and
HOW did it affect the relationship, or get dealt with?
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Re: Erections
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2006, 05:40:55 PM »
Hi Bear

I have used the Caverject for many years, when I needed to.   They also make a version that is not injected, but it's these little pellets you put down into the urethra.....personally, I couldn't do that, it burned too much....the needles are not pleasant, but it's all in how far you are willing to go......I was desperate, and desperate times call for desperate measures.   It does work, incredible stuff actually.   It's very expensive though.

Has he tried Levitra?   It works well for me also.

Alan
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Re: Erections
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2006, 07:36:52 PM »
Hey Bear,

I'm not sure but you seem to be asking how partners maintain a sex life, even when one has problems "performing."  Been there done that, many times.  It would seem that you need to redefine your love life and if at first, it means you start the action, then fine, as long as he agrees that when you start it, he joins right in.  But somehow I don't think the "mechanics" are the issue here, but rather your relationship.

As I read your posts I sense a feeling of loss, on your part and I'm not sure what you feel you have lost.  You make light of having sex so infrequently and I have to wonder, do you allow that disdain to be evident to your partner?  From my perspective, unless my partner is doing something that causes this inability, then this remains a problem for "us" because lovemaking takes two.  I would never ever refer to a lack of sex with a partner in such a cavalier manner.  I find it demeaning and actually quite cruel.

Put yourself in his place and try to understand his frustration.  Don't you think he might love to ravage you, but obviously he has limitations, so what would you have him do?  You've discussed this situation, he's tried a number of things, that for whatever reason, did not work.  So this is your reality and now you must make the choice of how to deal with this issue.

I assume there are other reasons that have kept you together, so play on those and find other ways to be intimate, even without sexual play.  I think you need to rekindle your love and stop dwelling on what you can't do and work at what you can.  If you redefine the expectations, so that nobody feels pressured to "perform", you can work at your own pace to rebuild a satisfying sex life.

Stop worrying about looking for what you have lost and work at improving what it is you have.

Offline bear60

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Re: Erections
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2006, 08:03:06 PM »
Killfoile...........Thank you for the insights...sometimes it takes someone like you to put it "in perspective" and I appreciate that.
Its been a while since my partner and I WORKED out any problems but it seems this is one we need to work on.  We went to a counselor for couples counseling some years ago.
Its kind of hard to be angry at HIV. But I am. I am angry that HIV has made our (his and mine) lives different, or has but obstacles in our way.  I am not angry at him and I love him very much. I dont joke about this with him...and I joke because its so painful that either I joke or cry. Tears or jokes...jokes or tears.
 I am asking you guys to help me ( as if we were sitting in a support group circle) to figure out some way to make the situation better.  I am sure someone has some experience with this sort of problem in a relationship.  If you have" been there done that"  Killfoile....I would appreciate any insight into how YOU dealt with the situation.
He and I have been together long enough to be able to work on this problem....I need to get to the point I can do that. I do feel a loss.... our relationship has changed and I am having a hard time accepting that.

"If you redefine the expectations, so that nobody feels pressured to "perform", you can work at your own pace to rebuild a satisfying sex life." quote......
Thats good advice.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2006, 09:17:39 PM by bear60 »
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Offline bear60

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Re: Erections
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2006, 09:20:16 PM »
Thanks Alan

we will discuss this.  I am sure we will be fine.  We both have the will to go on.
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Offline Joe K

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Re: Erections
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2006, 12:25:33 PM »
Hey Bear,

Thanks for the clarifications and please realize that I am sharing my thoughts and not accusing you of anything.  This issue has a few angles to it, so let's just pick one and get started.

You mention you are angry at HIV and so you need to process that anger, understand it and then be rid of it.  I have found that sometimes it is very easy to "project" our anger at someone else, because we need to vent it somewhere.  But focusing on the wrong target, solves nothing.  So my only advice to you is you need to address this anger and do it now.  Whether it be through meditation, therapy or whatever, you must rid yourself of this anger and re-channel that energy into redefining your intimate relationship.

Other things that I find helpful vary, so I'll just toss out some ideas and do with them what you will.

To start, you might want to share with your partner, what you have shared here.  Try phrasing the issue in terms of how it affects you both, rather than "why" the problem exists.  The real problem here is a lack of intimacy and your feeling a sense of loss, both perfectly normal reactions and personally, the fact that you want to work on this, speaks volumes about your character.  Tell him what he means to you and how you lament the loss of intimacy.  Share your anger with him, how HIV has diminished parts of your life and then tell him that you are re-channeling that anger into working to enhance your relationship.

You know your guy better than anyone.  You know what he likes, what gets him excited, so capitalize on that and plan activities that you both will enjoy, but that are fairly intimate.  A picnic, a long walk, or just cuddling are all ways to spend some time alone and really reconnect.  Plan dates with each other and KEEP THEM.  This problem won't disappear, so stop worrying about it and do something.  Make time together PARAMOUNT and if you must, schedule your life around it.  Joins groups or go to events that you both enjoy, just to spend time together.  After all, aren't you two worth it?

You might also want to reassess your bedroom, because that should be a place that invites intimacy, so make it so.  Pitch the TV or cover it with something.  Get some candles or scented oils to burn, maybe some massage oils and anything else that will help to set the mood.  (We found this really great glove that vibrates and it's possibilities seem to be endless).  If you don't want candles, then cover your lamps with a light covering to mute and diffuse the light.  Pick some music that promotes intimacy and is meaningful to you both.  The whole goal here is to create a space what screams "THIS SPACE IS OURS ALONE".

Once you set the mood, then explore new things that stimulate you both and find ways to be intimate that work for you.  It may involve sex toys or whatever, the point is, you find what works for you.  Role playing can be a great way to throw some real zing into your life.  Try picking up your guy at a local bar and then take him home and ravage him.  Or just cuddle and explore your bodies and let nature do her work.

Bear, your partner is a lucky man, because not all partners would care enough to work at enhancing their relationship.  Yet, your best ally, remains your husband.  You guys need to talk, honestly, without placing blame, but rather agreeing to work on this together.  Surely he has ideas, but I would guess what scares him most is that maybe you are losing feelings for him.  You know how to take care of this part, so just do it.

You two have an opportunity to take your relationship to the next level and I know you will do it.  I hope my ideas will help you both in moving forward.  Your guy is very lucky to have someone like you and you can tell him I said that, because not everyone is willing to work hard for what they want.

The simple fact that you came here and shared these intimate details confirms your commitment to making this work.

You know what you want and need, so pitch the old ideas and redefine what works for you.  As long as you have love, as your guiding force, you won't go wrong.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2006, 01:02:50 PM by killfoile »

 


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