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Offline Srb

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Tomorrow night it begins
« on: July 25, 2007, 06:52:32 PM »
Well, after being positive since 1997 and following the advice of my Dr. then..."Don't go on drugs....live your life....be happy, you'll know when it's time" I was tested two weeks ago and my vl was over one million and cd4 104. I felt as though I had been hit by a cement truck traveling 100 mph. I still do to an extent, but now I must focus on the meds (I'll be in a study research group) so I won't know what I will be on.

For some reason, the meds and all their potential side effects scare the hell out of me. I recall friends who have since passed saying "I'd rather be dead then to feel this bad on meds." That was, of course, the early years where there was little known. Yet, these new drugs represent a double edged sword for me. The good side of course, is getting better. But the other side is what haunts me. They drive something home that is unquestionably real and equally bad.  They represent something that I can't really explain but they make me feel dirty or unclean.

Anyway, tomorrow night it begins. Like I said, I won't know what I'll be on, but I'll be more closely monitored in this study group (all fda approved drugs being prescribed in other combos so they tell me.)

I'm just scared right now and thought putting my fears in writing might help.

Thanks for reading

« Last Edit: July 25, 2007, 06:54:18 PM by Srb »

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2007, 07:00:14 PM »
Best of Luck

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2007, 07:11:52 PM »

My VL was over 100 million and my cd4 was around 200 when I first started on med, in 1997.  I am sure I was infected somewhere around 95-96.
I can't believe your doctor would tell you to let the virus take hold before you go on meds!  What a schmock!

Anyway, I know how you feel scared about the meds.  I remember my friends back in the days of only AZT and how they felt death would be easier, but things are better now.
Of course we all react differently to the meds, but there is more hope now than before.

I wish you the best and I hope you are lucky and that you don't get the side effects.  I also want to point out that my VL is undetectable now and my cd4 is in the high 600's.

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Offline red_Dragon888

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2007, 07:19:19 PM »
good luck.

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2007, 07:24:58 PM »
Hi there

Welcome to the forums.

Good luck with everything and please let us know how you get on with the clinical trial.

BTW I agree with Rich your Doc is a Schmock (that's my new word for today... ;)

Take care
Jan :-*
« Last Edit: July 25, 2007, 07:26:47 PM by anniebc »
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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2007, 07:30:42 PM »

The meds are not quite as hideous as you've painted, though no summer's walk in a meadow either. You'll find a way of coping with living with HIV because the alternative just isn't palatable.

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Offline Razorbill

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2007, 07:35:28 PM »
Wasn't your doctor monitoring your numbers every 3 to 6 months?  How did it get to it's present state?  I'd be much more frightened of the unchecked virus than the meds.  They aren't so bad.  Really.  Best of luck.

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2007, 07:59:03 PM »
Oh I totally understand... I was feeling the same way. Could not sleep the night before. I had a terrible feeling of failure, but guess what I was wrong.

Today six years later I feel fine, better than ever and I am sure you will as well.The meds gave me a boost of energy.
Side effects, well they might happen, they might not. Our minds play a HUGE part on this whole thing.

One day at a time, one day at a time...

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Offline Life

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2007, 07:59:55 PM »
I got nervious when you said you do not have any idea what combo they are putting you on.   I am on a  blinded study for two drugs, I know the one drug that could be either or and that allowed me to go ahead with the study as both are tried, proven and FDA approved....  I know there are alot of studies out there that could be "questionable", to blind you of all the drugs you could be on?   Sounds a bit iffy and strange to me....  But, FDA approval on them means something, I am just not sure if I would hand over the stearing wheel to them without knowing what I could be on....

Just sayin,


Offline Nadine

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2007, 08:14:48 PM »
Best of luck to you!

Offline aztecan

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2007, 08:54:37 PM »
Hey Srb,

Try thinking of it this way. You are not failing, you are finally taking control of your life. Up till now, the virus had its way with you. No more!

If someone walked into your house and began taking your belongings, would you just sit by and wait until this person had walked of with just about all you own before telling him to stop? I think probably not.

So why let the virus rob you of your health and wellbeing? Now is the time to put your foot down and say, "Enough!"

As our Jan said, please let us know how things go with the medications.


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Offline StrongGuy

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2007, 01:45:47 AM »
A lot of people have fears about the meds, but they have improved tremendously over the years and my best is you'll find a combo that works for you.

I second what pozzitive said above. Some very good advice.

Best of luck!
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Offline DanielMark

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2007, 04:26:06 AM »
For some reason, the meds and all their potential side effects scare the hell out of me.


You said it best, "potential" side effects. Everyone tolerates medications differently. Try not to stress about what hasn’t happened yet because no one can predict the future.




Offline Srb

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2007, 01:58:01 PM »
First off, my deep felt thanks to all who have offered their support and encouragement during this scary time. Although strangers, we all have a common thread between us.

I MADE IT! night one of meds was more terrorizing in my head than with the actual drugs themselves (so far) I was in tears swallowing my first doses, but had a family member here for support and a hug.

Yesterday at the clinic I found out that my cd4 had dropped from 104 to 59 since July 05 and that probably explains my fatigue and difficulty accomplishing simple tasks.

The study I am on is blinded, but not as blinded as I originally thought. The two drugs which I do know I am on are Norvir 100mg and Rayataz 300mg with either Truvada or Epzicom being the third, but also being blinded.

Although less than twenty fours hours have passed, I feel no worse (which was pretty crappy) than before I took the pills. I'm wondering if it's too soon for side effects or perhaps my body is handling the drugs OK.

Anyway, I just wanted to share with those who asked how it went last night.

I guess it could have been a whole Lot worse. :)

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2007, 02:02:00 PM »
Great that you got the first night go well, hopefully other nights (and days) will feel the same :)

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Re: Tomorrow night it begins
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2007, 02:08:14 PM »

Happy that your first night was a good one. Here's to many more!  :D



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