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Offline nick1234

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Do I need HIV testing?
« on: July 24, 2007, 02:42:43 PM »
Hi all,

I had a very brief (less than 1 minute) oral sex followed by a protected vaginal sex.  She put on plenty of lube and the condom did not break.
What worries me is the discovery of a couple of small white spots on my left tonsil, which is more than twice as large as the right tonsil.  It doesn't hurt at all.   I read somewhere that the white spots on tonsil could be a sign of HIV infection.

Is there a medical reason to test for HIV?  What about for other STDs?

This was my first time with a prostitute, maybe that's why I'm overly worried.
Thanks.

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2007, 02:53:12 PM »
Nick-

You had no risk for contracting HIV, prostitute or no. getting a blowjob is risk free, and the actual intercourse was protected.

Symptoms or lack thereof are meaningless when assessing HIV risk, so please don't expect any discussion about them.

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Offline nick1234

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2007, 03:00:19 PM »
Actually, I performed oral on her.  There was no blood and didn't notice much secretions either.

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2007, 03:03:08 PM »
Same deal, Nick. Cunnilingus is not a risk activity either. Seriously...you're all set.

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2007, 03:11:45 PM »
nick
the transmission lesson http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/Transmission_9960.shtml should give you all the info you need. you are not at risk; you do not need to test.

the fact she was a prostitute is not an issue one way or another.

the oral sex = no risk. the protected sex = PROTECTED ie no risk.
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Offline nick1234

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2007, 05:02:01 PM »
Thanks for your answers.

I keep reading that oral on a woman is virtually no risk but that seems in conflict with common sense.  I mean when you expose your tongue and mouth to vaginal secretions (not to mention blood) which may contain the virus, isn't there a significant risk of infection?  It seems to me that this is more risky than unprotected vaginal sex.  After all, the tiny opening on the tip of the penis is no match to all the porous openings in the mouth.

Any comments?

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2007, 05:30:45 PM »
Your common sense needs more guidance. Facts are facts they aren't common sense.

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2007, 06:32:59 PM »
Nick,

The "fluid" that may be infectious for hiv in a woman's genital area is not really fluid, but rather it is the thick mucus that covers and protects the cervix (aka cervicovaginal fluid) You won't get anywhere near the cervix with your lips or tongue. The fluid a woman produces when sexually aroused comes from two glands on either side of the vaginal opening. This fluid has not been shown to be any more infectious than sweat or tears - which are not infectious.

Add to this the fact that saliva contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect - and you have the result that cunnilingus is NOT  risk for hiv infection.

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Offline nick1234

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2007, 10:32:34 PM »
thanks for all your replies.

I know maybe I'm being to anxious but what if she had small amounts menstrual blood, too small for me to notice and I got it on my tongue?  Women produce some blood a few days before and after mensturation, no?  If I have licked very small amounts of blood, what is the risk there?

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2007, 10:35:06 PM »
Zero, the saliva in your mouth would take care of it.

Offline nick1234

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2007, 10:39:02 PM »
So you're saying my mouth has to be exposed to a significant amount of blood for it to ever be a problem?

Hypothetically, if one swallows a teaspoon of infected blood, what are the chances of getting infected?

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2007, 11:04:19 PM »
Hypothetically, if one swallows a teaspoon of infected blood, what are the chances of getting infected?

Why on earth would one swallow a teaspoon of blood, infected or otherwise?

MtD

Offline nick1234

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2007, 11:32:54 PM »
It was a hypothetical question.  My concern is how much blood is enough to infect one thru oral exposure?  In my case, if there was any blood, it was tiny amount. 

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2007, 12:12:55 AM »
if you swallowed a teaspoonful of blood you would still be negative. amongst a million other things even if you did against all odds become in contact with an infectious something well your saliva and  gut ennzymes would destroy it in the same way as they destroy all sorts of other things.

if you desire to swallow a teaspoon of poz blood to test this theory i suggest that instead you seek the help of a therapist due to your problem with accepting that YOU ARE NOT AT RISK from oral sex.

if you want further reassurance i suggest you look at our answers to other similar questions on this forum.

you are not at risk from the encounter you referred to
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Offline nick1234

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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2007, 08:26:51 PM »
I know you guys said no testing was warranted but "what ifs" hijacked my mind.  I think I accept there was no risk from cunnilingus but what if there was a tear or a hole in the condom?  I sure didn't check it afterwards.

Anyway, I went for a rapid test at 7 weeks after the encounter which was negative.  I thought this would get of the anxiety but if anything, it has increased it!  I know you recommend a test at 13 weeks but have you ever heard of anyone testing neg. at 7 weeks and test positive later from the same exposure?

I want to move on with my life but this anxiety coupled with a few symptoms  (rash on chest, white spots on tonsil) has taken me prisoner.

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Re: Do I need HIV testing?
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2007, 09:26:41 PM »
If your condom had torn you would have known it. People worry about teensie weensie holes but that's not it happens. When a condom goes you end up looking like you have fringed hula hoop on your johnson. It's not a subtle event.

I don't see there was any need for testing. But since you did you should know that the average time to seroconversion is 22 days. All but the very smallest number of those who are going to seroconvert will do so with 4-6 weeks after an exposure to the HIV virus.

And no, I don't expect you will get any other than another negative result should you choose to test again st 13 weeks. If you are going to re-test, and it sounds like you have that in mind, stay productively busy in your life and the waiting time will pass more quickly than you may imagine possible. Your mind has been working overtime with absolutely no basis in HIV science to substantiate your fears. Give it a rest and get on with your life. Really.
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