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Author Topic: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!  (Read 5018 times)

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Offline lostboy

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Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« on: July 24, 2007, 05:03:32 AM »
This is the most insane idea ever. I'm shocked that anyone could even contemplate this.  Thank God for the human rights you have in Western countries.

Papua signals move to microchip HIV carriers

A doctor says lawmakers in the Indonesian province of Papua are mulling the selective use of chip implants in HIV carriers to monitor their behaviour in a bid to keep them from infecting others.

http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/07/24/1987295.htm?section=world



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Offline rkeat25

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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2007, 07:22:09 AM »
WTF is right!

"Some of the infected people experience a change of behaviour and can turn more aggressive and would not think twice of infecting others,"

-I'm always skeptical when statements are made without evidence such as the one above made by the person interviewed in the article.


Offline RapidRod

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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2007, 07:40:19 AM »
Hmm, maybe they can use the chip to locate illegal immigrants in the US that don't show up to court for their hearings. 

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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2007, 09:43:15 AM »
Hmm, maybe they can use the chip to locate illegal immigrants in the US that don't show up to court for their hearings. 

Oh come on... leave the poor immigrants alone....

I was just wondering if that shit would "beep" everytime you fuck .... or if it would send them a red signal to their monitor :D. They would get crazy!

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Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2007, 09:59:03 AM »
Oh for crying out loud! This thread would be better titled:

"AIDSmeds Forums Members: Racist Dipshits!"

West Papua is also known as the Indonesian province of Irian Jaya. These people are lucky to have hot water, let alone the capacity to microchip anyone.

 ::)

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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2007, 10:27:28 AM »
"AIDSmeds Forums Members: Racist Dipshits!"

I didn't see any racism here. I see another one of those scarey stories where they want to basically round up the poz people.

Then someone replied with a quip that that technology might be useful is solving a problem in America of ILLEGAL immigrants, where our Congress recently washed their hands of tackling this problem at all. Rather than pass any legislative fixes, they chose to do nothing and let the problem continue unchecked.

Nobody mentioned race, or even sexuality. There's neither homophobia nor racism in the linked article or comments, IMHO.
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Offline allopathicholistic

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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2007, 10:36:50 AM »
how the hell can a fucking microchip tell scientists or bigbrother/TPTB or whomthefuckever if a poz person is using a condom or not using a condom?!?!  :D sounds like an absurd waste of money, materials and time

Offline indyguy

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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2007, 11:01:13 AM »
Hey it doesn't sound that far fetched to me. The government has done stranger things then this. We already have the monitors for criminals and drunk drivers. Watch and see if it does not happen in the future. Scary!
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Offline RapidRod

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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2007, 11:18:13 AM »
Hey it doesn't sound that far fetched to me. The government has done stranger things then this. We already have the monitors for criminals and drunk drivers. Watch and see if it does not happen in the future. Scary!

That would stop them from cutting off the monitor bracelets. I can see a lot of uses for it. I can't see it for HIV at all, that's stupidity. But, convicted sex offenders and pedophiles. I say go for it.

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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2007, 12:22:10 PM »
I was just wondering if that shit would "beep" everytime you fuck ....
I must be microchiped already, there is this "prrt" sound that I sometimes hear when I get fucked.

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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2007, 02:22:46 PM »
I must be microchiped already, there is this "prrt" sound that I sometimes hear when I get fucked.

Milker.

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Offline dixieman

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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2007, 04:49:34 PM »
Microchip is already being used by some governments for government employees... Mexico has already implanted more than 200 employees with microchips for security reasons. The United States may possibly pass ok... in the future for microchips for the elderly (patient information) access and for chronically ill patients voluntarily for easy access to records of individuals... Microchipping would start out with many positive aspects etc... but, what happens with missuse... would big brother be watching you 24....7 ... know your where abouts, every move... history.. your buying selling habits... this technonlogy will open the door for more abuses to control everyones move, thoughts, employment, etc... sorta the beginning of the mark of the beast... all intentions start out for the good but, work for the possiblity to control everyones life... per say... Something to think about!

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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2007, 05:50:16 AM »
I wanted to say something about micro-penises and microchips, but I stopped myself.

Offline RapidRod

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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2007, 06:03:53 AM »
We already microchip our pets. Which I think is fantastic. Could it also be used on Alzheimer's patients? Microchips for medical reasons has it's place in today's society.

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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2007, 09:09:04 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2007, 08:31:15 AM »
I just read the most awful thing about Papua. I almsot didn't post b/c it's so awful and I don't want to bring people down, but then I need to share the horror I am feeling.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6965412.stm
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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2007, 08:49:50 AM »
My first reaction to that news story was "who the fuck is Margaret Marabe and why did she just stand by and watch people being buried alive?"

So I turned to Google and found the PDF doc I have attached below.

It would seem that she's also someone living with hiv in PNG - and I'm guessing she would be too frightened of reprisals should she intervene. It must be absolutely horrible for her - and I'm glad she's had the courage to tell this story to the world. I can only hope we're not the only ones in the world listening.

I also hope others will join me in sending Margaret Marabe some love, light and positive healing energy. Lord knows she needs it!

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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2007, 09:55:28 AM »
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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2007, 10:09:59 AM »
CAN ANYONE SAY 666

Yes, it is a U.S. Highway I take all the time. It was renumbered a few years ago because some superstitious xristians were afraid the devil would get them as they traveled the highway.

As for the PNG story, that is downright scary.

I am sending positive, healing energy to Margaret Marabe.

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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2007, 10:50:27 AM »
I wanted to say something about micro-penises and microchips, but I stopped myself.


I wish you hadn't.  You still could, ya know.   ;)


Hate to break it to the Mark of the Beast Bunch, but your whereabouts and buying habits are already pretty easily traced.  OnStar and even cell phones with GPS can pinpoint your location.  Those little Kroger Plus Cards and such (or just credit card receipts) can tell just what you buy and where.  And interactive media like the net or your TV can provide a pretty accurate profile of who you are.  And there's still cameras on virtually every street corner.

Smile.

There's been talk of parents wanting to microchip their kids for safety for years now.

I'm sure my old religious zealot neighbors (the ones that told me Santa was a tool of the Devil) are wagging their fingers as wildly as ever.  They've been screaming "666" for years now.

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Re: Microchip HIV carriers! WTF!
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2007, 11:21:57 AM »
I'm so over the whole mark of the beast, 666 thing.  I used to be told it was what was in the crown of the pope.
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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2007, 12:05:19 PM »
Wow, I can't believe that BBC link about AIDS victims being "buried alive"
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2007, 03:08:41 PM »
I just read the most awful thing about Papua. I almsot didn't post b/c it's so awful and I don't want to bring people down, but then I need to share the horror I am feeling.

Dragonette,

I just came across that story myself and I nearly threw up!

Of all the stories of ignorance and stupidity in the world that I've read, this one tops them all.

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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2007, 11:30:34 PM »
I just read the most awful thing about Papua. I almsot didn't post b/c it's so awful and I don't want to bring people down, but then I need to share the horror I am feeling.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6965412.stm

I read that and my head exploded while I was at work.

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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2007, 12:34:23 AM »
Oh come on people.

That sort of stuff happens all the time in Papua New Guinea. Except for Port Moresby and a few other locations, PNG is a very remote innaccessible place. The people in these parts still practice their ancient and traditional culture and laws. People are lost all the time in tribal conflicts, and those identified as 'witches' killed. While abhorrent to us, it's just part of life for others.

Edited to ad: the stuff about microchipping +ve people is not a serious proposal. It was raised by an Indonesian colonel (or similar) as a way of somehow tracking +ve people in Irian Jaya (West Papua), a province of Indonesia and not part of PNG but has been rejected by one and all.

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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2007, 04:27:07 AM »
Oh come on people.

That sort of stuff happens all the time in Papua New Guinea. Except for Port Moresby and a few other locations, PNG is a very remote innaccessible place. The people in these parts still practice their ancient and traditional culture and laws. People are lost all the time in tribal conflicts, and those identified as 'witches' killed. While abhorrent to us, it's just part of life for others.

Edited to ad: the stuff about microchipping +ve people is not a serious proposal. It was raised by an Indonesian colonel (or similar) as a way of somehow tracking +ve people in Irian Jaya (West Papua), a province of Indonesia and not part of PNG but has been rejected by one and all.



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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2007, 09:30:23 AM »
I think a little furry collar with a tinker bell on it would be more accepted.

Lets leave the micro chips for those convicted of several DUI arrests. I'd like to know what their habits are. And when they are in a bar.

 


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