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Offline Queen Tokelove

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In pot we trust........
« on: July 12, 2007, 01:14:46 AM »
I just got done watching on Showtime, the documentary, In pot we trust....Of course the title caught me while scanning through the guide...It's about legalizing weed for medicinal purposes. It shows both sides of the battle...those suffering with health issues and of course the man's point of view which of course had to include a Drug Enforcement Agency somewhere. I forget exactly where they were filming. They showed them finding this beautiful field full of weed, like 20,000 plants in total.....Goddess, I was near tears.....And of course the cop had to say, "This is 20,000 plants that won't be in the streets....Police 1...Dealers 0"....I wanted to jump through the screen..grrrrrrrrrrr.....Just wondering if anyone else had peeped this show?
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2007, 01:15:14 PM »
YES YES AND YES  :D

I am a HUGE medical marijuana advocate. 

I just took action on this issue and thought you might find it
 interesting too.
U.S. House of Representatives is expected to vote shortly on the 2007
 Hinchey-Rohrabacher medical marijuana amendment.

Click on this URL to take action now
http://capwiz.com/norml2/utr/2/?a=9998376&i=1234&c=


the criminalization of cannabis is nothing more than dirty white men politics.
http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2007, 02:13:26 PM »
Queen, I did not get to see that show but am a firm believer in weed as a relaxant and now as a appetite stimulant. I have been smoking since I was 13 so that's 22 years.  Cristy

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2007, 05:01:50 PM »
Hey Queen,

I didn't see the show but am a California native and have a license to grow and smoke medicinal herbs.  It is a blessing for the side effects of the meds.

Not long ago, I was put on Trizivir and was sick every day.  My ID doc prescribed Marinol and it did not help much.  It was hard enough to stand up at the stove to heat a can of soup but could barely eat it because what goes down, must come up...

My neighbor began coming over to help me take care of me and brought something to be wrapped up in little papers.  All of a sudden, I was no longer sick every day and I was being my jovial self again.  I went to a special clinic in San Francisco, got a prescription and got registered with DHS.  There has been some conflict here in California re: whether the people with prescriptions are really sick.  They say we look too healthy, I say we take our medicine  ;D  Have the best day
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2007, 05:54:49 PM »
Let's all band together and legalize it. 

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2007, 08:11:32 PM »
I think it's insane that something pretty intense like alcohol is legal and something innocuous like pot is not.   Have you ever seen a bar fight when two people were stoned? 
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2007, 08:42:17 PM »
In another life, another time, another place, I used to circulate petitions to get marijuana on the ballot.  In that life, time, and place, most sdtoners were not registered to vote.  Last night on Letternan, there was discussion abour a Congressman who lost the stoner vote.  What stoner vote?  Twenty years later, the same people are still not registered.  OH WELL  ;D  Have the best day
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2007, 08:53:04 PM »
I think it's insane that something pretty intense like alcohol is legal and something innocuous like pot is not.   Have you ever seen a bar fight when two people were stoned? 

I'm no anti-drug campaigner but to say that pot is innocuous is a little disingenuous. There are enough studies out there to show that abuse of pot can lead to adverse physical and mental effects. Ask my doctor for a peak at my file if you want to see just what it can do. I have, and continue to, struggle with my pot useage and its effects.

edited to correct my poor spelling.
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2007, 09:13:12 PM »
Cannabis should be treated with respect.  You can't deny the medicinal value of the Cannabis plant, not to mention the multi uses of Hemp.
It should be used for its therapeutic qualities and I believe that it should be made available to any person over the age of 21yrs old (just using this age because of our drinking age in the US). 


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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2007, 12:35:58 AM »
I definitely hopes that they pass the damn thing....Why should people who need it medicinally suffer? I will not try to front, I started smoking when I was 15, so yes, it was recreational. After becoming poz, it has become a necessity, I need it to eat. My ID doc tried putting me on Marinol but that was a joke. I can't take Megace because it conflicts with my depo shot. My primary doc knows all this but since he is a doc, he won't openly condone it but says I gotta do what I gotta do to eat. I really think it sucks that we can't even get it medicinally here in Pa.

I feel that the pros outweight the cons....Yeah, you lose your memory, ok...That goes in time anyway..Fearless, if ya don't mind, I would like to know how else it has affected you? Up to you whether you want to post here or in a pm. Puck, having been a bartender in the past I have seen drunken brawls and the damage people do. I agree, you don't see that with weed. If something was to jump off, it would be because someone is reaching for my food... ;D And whoever it was would be pulling back a nub. And Poz, I will check out that site and take some action. I try to make a difference when I can.

Sincerely,

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2007, 09:00:17 AM »
Well of course it can be abused.  So can sex.  Too much sugar isn't good for one's health, either.  I'm sure living in certain cities or near particular industries is just as bad for one, healthwise, as smoking pot.  I'm not talking about staying stoned all day and all night to the point where one can't function well.  Even then, as Scott says "Have you ever seen a bar fight when two people were stoned?"  We've got people who are obese due to lack of exercise and poor diet, but we haven't criminalized fatty foods or laziness.  I take Adderall for ADD.  It's basically prescription speed, but it works well in the doses that I take for ADD.  I've taken it for years and can't recall any times I've 'abused' it.  Certain drugs, like Adderall, have a much greater potential for abuse than pot.  Almost anything, drug or not, has the potential for being unhealthy.  Pot is no different.

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(Edited for a damned typo!)
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2007, 09:21:40 AM »
I believe 100% in using marijuana medically. I use it often, I do not sit down and get stoned a couple puffs is all it takes. As if with any drug it can be used incorrectly or abused. But it has been a God send for me, it relieves my neuropathy and helps with nausea. I have signed a petition here in Michigan to have it put on the ballot as a medical drug. I hope with all I have that it will be passed. It is ridiculous to refuse to allow people to use something that has such benefits to the quality of life.
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2007, 09:27:52 AM »
A couple years ago, pot (aka cannabis here in the UK) was down-graded from a class B drug to a class C drug. Certain factions in the government have been agitating recently to get it re-classified as class B. In yesterday's Independent, Johann Hari wrote an interesting editorial on the subject where he debunks some of the myths the opposition have been using to support their cause.

I wish the people who oppose medical pot could, for at least a week,  have to live with one of the conditions pot helps. They should be made to smoke pot just once, so they can see what the difference is, then not allowed to have it again. Maybe they'd change their tune.

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2007, 10:42:59 AM »
I bake ... I smoke... make my own canna butter for wonderful treats... and everyone always wants the secrets for my good moods... stone.. stoner... stoned are my 3 mottos... maybe thats why I've been able to hold down my food... eat... when I had no appetite... I prefer to smoke from a pipe... and use my homemade butter on my toast... Try it you'll like it! I am a firm supporter for medical use...

Offline pozattitude

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2007, 11:49:24 AM »
Well of course it can be abused.  So can sex.  Too much sugar isn't good for one's health, either.  I'm sure living in certain cities or near particular industries is just as bad for one, healthwise, as smoking pot.  I'm not talking about staying stoned all day and all night to the point where one can't function well.  Even then, as Scott says "Have you ever seen a bar fight when two people were stoned?"  We've got people who are obese due to lack of exercise and poor diet, but we haven't criminalized fatty foods or laziness.  I take Adderall for ADD.  It's basically prescription speed, but it works well in the does that I take for ADD.  I've taken it for years and can't recall any times I've 'abused' it.  Certain drugs, like Adderall, have a much greater potential for abuse than pot.  Almost anything, drug or not, has the potential for being unhealthy.  Pot is no different.

David
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OMG...LOL  ;D  I have ADHD and take Adderall too..and you are absolutely right...with the exception of my HIV meds, all other pre scripbed pharma man made drugs I take are way more addicting and have a much larger potential for abuse.
Also, with legal medical cannabis, I can chose the type of medicine I need, there is a big difference between Indica types and Sativas. 
Cannabis is not for everyone, just like any drug (man made big pharma included) has different effects on everyone.
In my case, it is a wonder drug.  I don't sit home all high all day, that happened when I took Marinol...the legal man made substitute for nature's best.

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2007, 01:29:47 PM »
I bake ... I smoke... make my own canna butter for wonderful treats... and everyone always wants the secrets for my good moods... stone.. stoner... stoned are my 3 mottos... maybe thats why I've been able to hold down my food... eat... when I had no appetite... I prefer to smoke from a pipe... and use my homemade butter on my toast... Try it you'll like it! I am a firm supporter for medical use...

We have a friend known as 'Brownie Rick'.  He always makes the best brownies and fudge and is very generous with them.  Eat one and it'll be with you for hours.  The only problem is when a gay man comes up with a grin on his face and asks an unsuspecting person "would you care for some fudge?"  It just brings up images of a scat daddy to me!

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2007, 07:48:30 PM »
Queenie,

Firstly, I love pot and firmly believe that it should be decriminilised, at the very least.

My problem is that I love it too much, and have great difficulty controlling my useage. I'd love nothing better than to be able to just have a cone or two after a hard day at work. Unfortunately, a cone or two becomes 30+ a day, from the time I wake till I finally crash that night. And, then I slip into the cycle of not functioning, missing weeks of work at a time. My paranoia and anxiety grows, and I lock myself in the house, not seeing anyone, not doing anything, not resolving any issues. I don't wash, clean or eat properly, which in turn feeds the anxiety and paranoia, and so the cycle continues. Everything builds up, and the only solution is more pot to get super stoned to the point that I don't care that I'm not at work, not eating properly, cleaning or looking after myself. You get the picture. People can be quite dismissive, and say, oh, it's just pot, just don't smoke so much, it ain't that hard, but it doesn't work like that for me. I guess I'm an emotional pot smoker, like binge eating or something, and I often use it to cover other issues that I am having at the time. I've had to have counselling on a number of occassions to get me over the super binges and get me back to work.

For the vast vast majority of people the pros do outway the cons, but some people do struggle with it. The same goes for alcohol and a variety of drugs though.

Everyone has the poison, and unfortunately/thankfully mine is pot. It's a double edged sword.

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2007, 07:53:30 PM »
Legalise the lot. Yahndi, smack, speed, coke. It's all good.

Sure a proportion of people will go overboard and be reduced to vegetable mush, but so what? We probably didn't need 'em anyway. To Matty the Damned's malignant mind these people constitute nothing more than mere collateral damage. Acceptable losses, so to speak.

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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2007, 08:03:43 PM »
But you do need me Matty, the world of community broadcasting would fall apart with out me  ;)
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2007, 08:05:58 PM »
Ah yes. Community broadcasting. For some reason I always forget that's your fault. :)

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2007, 08:26:38 PM »
Fearless,

Damn dude! If I didn't know any better, I would think that you had those effects from something other than weed..But as they say, everything isn't for everybody. So does that mean you can't be around it at all, you know as in a room full of smokers for a contact high? Prolly not..In your case, I would just say NO. But I appreciate you sharing that with me.
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2007, 08:48:40 PM »
hey Queenie,

Don't worry, I still smoke  ;D. I like it too much.
You are somewhat right, in that I tend to binge when I'm trying to run or hide from something, but the effects (the paranoia, and paralyses) are a result of the binge. When not binging, I have none of these problems.
I've tried just saying NO, and I do having periods where I just don't touch it, but as you know pot is simply the best thing for that vile med nausea, so I keep coming back.
I've been a relatively heavy pot smoker for probably 25 years now. I never used to have these problems though, but with age I've found it to be more problematic. I guess my binging actually started when my ex was out for days at a time speeding off his dial. Smoking lots of pot was my way of coping with his absence. Issues I've been over and over with various shrinks and counsellors. Coming from a family with a histroy of mental illness probably doesn't help either.

At the end of the day though, I'm oddly glad that pot is my poison as opposed to some of the other substances that I could be abusing.

Matty, community broadcasting is for people who can't get elected to their local council or neighborhood watch committee.   ;D
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2007, 08:51:51 PM »
That is the beauty of being an individual, we all react to different things in different ways.
Fearless, I don't know if I want to say I am sorry or what.  I don't think you would still be here with us if you abused alcohol in the same way, so there is a positive (no pun intended) way of looking at this.
I reserve my cannabis for after work only, during the weekdays, I guess I am a good boy ::)
...now, weekends and any other time when I don't have to work, well let's just say I enjoy my breakfast with baked goods.

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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2007, 09:10:58 PM »
me too, Rich. Now I can pop my pills with confidence.

Thankfully, alcohol makes me puke, and with too much of any upper I become a nervous wreck and lose the plot.
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2007, 09:13:09 PM »
I didn't see the documentary but I gotta laugh tho cause back in 2002 my friend from Humboldt county found out I was strung out on drugs and paid me a visit with a grow light and some seeds. His answer for me to kick my drug habit was to grow weed. Well to keep a long story short After I went to rehab I started to grow the erb in my basement with out the wiffy knowing. first grow I ended up with about 12 Oz's.. Second grow about a 11/2 lbs. So I started selling it cause my drug habit kick back in. Then my marriage start to fall apart and the wife found out finally after about a 11 months. She threatened to call the cops if I didn't get rid of the weed. Damn I had to kill about 2 lbs that had about 3 weeks to mature. then a week later I come home high and she calls the cops on me. I only went home to get a OZ to sell so I can continue to get high Cops come and here I am with a oz. in my pocket. and it was skunk and it stunk. So the cop asking me if  I'm high and stuff I'm like no I'm not high but I was trying  not move so much cause when I moved around I would get a whiff of it. Man was I scared I thought I was definitely was going to get busted. But the nice police man told me to leave till tomorrow so I said no problem officer. LOL and frickin ran out the door. I weed was so potent that I use to trip when I smoked it.
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2007, 09:33:35 PM »
Fearless---You still smoking even though you get paranoid? I guess you have to know your limit, you been doing it for so long.

Poz--- I am around trees almost everyday in some way. Either I have it myself or I am at a friend's house who is blazing up. Everyone in my family smokes except my baby sister. My mother smoked her first joint when she was preggers with me. Can I say it's hereditary then? ;D

Asaint---- You should've married a toker man! You got to check out the documentary, it shows people who smoke it medicinally for all types of reasons and also shows the man's view including some politicians. But don't take my word for it, WATCH IT. I know what your friend did sounds crazy but I can relate to what to what he was saying. I did that. Now were you saying you grew and sold weed to maintain another habit? If so, WOW. And you definitely lucked out with the cop. If you woulda got busted, you coulda said it was yours and you smoke. But you still woulda got slapped because you had so much on you.
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2007, 10:01:52 PM »
Queenie,

I just have to take that risk at the moment. The anti-inflammatories for my butt make me want to puke, constantly. I have no access to maranol in Australia, and pot is the only thing that works. I don't see any real alternative.
I have the perfect solution for my current dilemna, and that is to legalise and regulate it. They could put a smallish dosage  into cigarettes (i'm a smoker), and I could easily regulate my intake. With an oz and a bong in front of me, well....

I try not so smoke these days, and my last major crippling binge ended in October last year, although I did have a bad patch earlier this year, that the lovely Melia helped me get out of. Last years one, however, started as I was smoking lots when I first started meds. My liver, stomach and I had a great battle over several months, but the pot abuse pushed me very close to the edge in the end.
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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2007, 10:16:35 PM »
I am glad Miss Melia was there for you during that nightmare. Has noticed Miss Melia has helped others in the past and I think of her as the Florence Nightengale of the forums. What an angel.
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2007, 07:13:23 PM »
Another fantastically informative documentary available through Netflix is "Magic Weed," from 2003.  The Anarchist's Cookbook includes several interesting recipes aside from the usual brownies.  Any tomato sauce based recipe, like marinara sauce, benefits greatly.  My personal favorite is to use it in meatloaf.

To me, ingestion brings about a more relaxed, almost sleepy euphoria, while smoking weed seems to give me just a bit more energy and possibly a bit more creativity.  Nausea and general malaise are also greatly reduced.  The "herbal Prozac" effect is not to be overlooked, either.  I'm much more tractable in the mornings with a cuppa joe and a tight white.  ;)
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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2007, 07:38:43 PM »
Another fantastically informative documentary available through Netflix is "Magic Weed," from 2003.  The Anarchist's Cookbook includes several interesting recipes aside from the usual brownies.  Any tomato sauce based recipe, like marinara sauce, benefits greatly.  My personal favorite is to use it in meatloaf.

Oh really? I have a Netflix account. I am definitely gonna have to check that out. I have never cooked with it, nor have I ever tried the brownies. Basically cause I suck at baking... ;D
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« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2007, 07:56:57 PM »
Oh really? I have a Netflix account. I am definitely gonna have to check that out. I have never cooked with it, nor have I ever tried the brownies. Basically cause I suck at baking... ;D

Gurlllll.....
just wait 'till you come to AMG SF....i have a killer pastry chef friend who bakes delicious treats  ;D

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« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2007, 11:01:16 PM »
I wish I could make the AMG in SF but unfortunately I can't make it......
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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2007, 02:37:19 PM »
One fine California day, we baked some brownies and put too much incredients in.  My room mates were staying home and I had a night job.  Get that, I had a job... same life, different century.  Anyway, my job was at least an hour away from my house and I was kind of out of it for most of the night.

I got home the next day and the brownies were still in the pan and left on the coffee table.  I guessed the room mates enjoyed their evening.  Sometime later my Red dog was not feeling her best so... off to the vet we go.  Within a couple of days the vet called my parents to ask if Red dog could have gotten in to any drugs.

My mom called my house to hear, "no, my brother is in town so Michael and I hid all of our drugs."   ;D  Have the best day
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« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2007, 04:24:49 PM »
I finally watched In Pot We Trust.... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

It makes me so angry to hear the DEA and the idiots who refuse to accept the proven scientific evidence of the medicinal qualities of marijuana. 
and after watching the story of Jacqueline Patterson, the mother of 4 who has cerebral palsy, :'(  I felt guilty to live in California....I want to give her my medicine ...how can anyone deny the benefits of cannabis after watching this woman?  What kind country do we live in?
It made me so mad I wanted to cry.
I know it is all about politics and big pharma lobbying, after all, anyone can grow marijuana, you don't need to buy it from Roche or Glaxo. 
Can you imagine, a plant that grows wild, with little to no care and that can treat nausea, anorexia, PN, MS, muscle spasms, glaucoma, anxiety, depression, post traumatic stress disorder, chronic muscle and nerve pain, and many other things? 

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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2007, 04:52:07 PM »
Queen Aska, To make canna butter... put water in a sauce pan then put real butter in the pan and then your main ingredient... (weed) boil for a few minutes... take off of the heat and let simmer with a lid on the sauce pan... now here's the part where you will strain the water from the butter and weed... I use a strainer... then to get most of the particles out ... I strain cheese cloth.... save the butter in a container... sorta like making herb butter... the THC is attracted to the fat in the butter... you can use this as regular butter on your toast or in pasteries... candies etc...

the only reason for marijuana being illegal in the USA... watch the history channell ... south western states wanted to find a way to get rid of mexican workers... in the 1930's during the depression... the mexican workers were known to use this for recreational usage... the history channel has a great documentary on this...

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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2007, 05:08:15 PM »
the only reason for marijuana being illegal in the USA... watch the history channell ... south western states wanted to find a way to get rid of mexican workers... in the 1930's during the depression... the mexican workers were known to use this for recreational usage... the history channel has a great documentary on this...

You are correct,

In 1930, Harry J. Anslinger is given control of the new Federal Bureau of Narcotics (he remains in the position until 1962)
Here are quotes from Anslinger campaign to criminalize marijuana"

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."

"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."

pure racism....and it still stands.


really good article with history of the criminalization of cannabis on http://marijuana.drugwarrant.com
A brief history of the criminalization of cannabis


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« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2007, 09:36:30 PM »
I felt bad for the girl with the 4 kids too. What got me was when the police was tearing down all that weed. I know someone here who got busted for having an ounce on him. But when it came time for trial, it was missing out of the evidence room. I got pulled over once for smoking in my car, actually they were at the same store I was and was about to apprehend someone when they smelled the aroma out of my car. The blunt was in the ashtray, I left it there on purpose because here most cops will not bother doing paperwork for a blunt. The cop had the nerve to tell me that the weed I had was garbage. If it was so garbage then why take it? I know he smoked it later on.... ;D

Poz~~ Did that vote pass for the marijuana bill? I forget when you said that was.

Dixieman~~ I will have to get the specifics of that recipe..How about sending me a PM?
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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2007, 11:56:29 PM »
No Queen, our Congress voted against the bill .  The feds are still allowed to prosecute anyone who is caught with marijuana, even in the states where we can legally get our medical cannabis.  >:( :'( ???
but the fight goes on...lol.  The results were a little better this time, even some Republicans voted in favor of the bill this time.  We'll get there, we just can't give up!



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« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2007, 02:14:07 AM »
If I wasnt soooo stoned right now I would give you all a piece of my mind. ;D Now where did I put those damned rolling papers?
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« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2007, 03:03:39 AM »
If I wasnt soooo stoned right now I would give you all a piece of my mind. ;D Now where did I put those damned rolling papers?

Hmmm, you sound like an amatuer. A pro keeps all his paraphenlia together.... ;)

Damn, I am sorry to hear that the bill didn't pass. I don't think the state of Pa will ever approve medicinal weed. Maybe I need to marry an old billionaire and move to California. Move into a mansion with one room being a weed nursery.... ;D
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« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2007, 03:05:05 AM »
LOL ;D
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« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2007, 09:48:07 AM »
From one "queen" to another, I'm with you 100%! Why should I be made to feel like a criminal just for obtaining something that is necessary for my health?
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« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2007, 11:54:03 AM »
Iam a firm believe in smoking pot for medicinal uses..
They legalized booze and thats worse.
My friend had cancer and she was given a pill ..A tiny little orange pill that contained thc..the element that give you your hi..


It worked great for her..No thowing up and gave her an appetite to help her eat.
Its good for aids patients and cancer patients as well.
Its good for glaucoma, and so many more benefits,, just cant think of them all
now..So why not legalize this ...Hell, it would save me a trip into the streets
and copping a bag...I would hate to get busted for something i needed.
It doesn't destroy the brain..That's bullcrap..Hope they legalize it here in the USA.
Its already legal in many other states....sign the petition that was posted in this
thread...............Now let me light up..iam feeling ill in my stomach / probably from
the kaletra, which gives you the runs..........oy ve :P
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« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2007, 11:59:21 AM »
Here's some scary news about KS and pot smoking.  I suppose this could be along the lines of the much questioned poppers connection, but as it comes from the American Association for Cancer Research I'd put some stock in it if your cd4 count is low.  Or at least be on the look out for more news.

Marijuana Component Opens The Door For Virus That Causes Kaposi's Sarcoma
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2007, 03:05:37 PM »
Thanks for the link. I really don't know how to respond to it. I think my cd4 is pretty good but it sad to hear what I love most can kill me. Will that give me cause to stop...NO..When my time is come to leave this world, I hope I am high or having sex... ;)
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« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2007, 03:56:40 PM »
I'm am a little skeptical about this study.  It was funded by the National Institutes of Health, which is the government, and I don't trust the government.
I have done extensive research on medical marijuana, and I have found several studies that marijuana has now been shown to have strong antioxidative and neuroprotective effects, which may prolong neuronal cell survival.  Some studies have also ďA strong and statistically significant anti-tumor effect was observed Ö In particular, for a highly malignant human breast carcinoma cell line Ö cannabidiol and a cannabidiol-rich extract counteract cell growth both in vivo and in vitro as well as tumor metastasis in vivo.Ē

While I have read numerous studies that show that cannabis actually helps stop the growth of cancer cells and in some instances even "ZAPS" the cancer cells.

I would like to see an independent (non bias) study on this KS relationship.

I'll take my chances.  It is a better option  than to live with the pain for PN and it is the only thing that keeps me from wasting.

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« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2007, 05:01:36 PM »
wha......  you don't trust teh gubment for ganja information?
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« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2007, 05:07:14 PM »
wha......  you don't trust teh gubment for ganja information?

where do you get this impression from?  ::)
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« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2007, 06:20:05 PM »
where do you get this impression from?  ::)

You act as if there's a War on Drugs or something.
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« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2007, 07:17:14 AM »
This article will not stop me from doing what i have been doing since i was
diagnosed..Its my body,, and everyones body acts differently to meds as
it would to pot...It helps me so.. ::) Iam gonna keep on truckin
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