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Offline Queen Tokelove

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In pot we trust........
« on: July 12, 2007, 01:14:46 AM »
I just got done watching on Showtime, the documentary, In pot we trust....Of course the title caught me while scanning through the guide...It's about legalizing weed for medicinal purposes. It shows both sides of the battle...those suffering with health issues and of course the man's point of view which of course had to include a Drug Enforcement Agency somewhere. I forget exactly where they were filming. They showed them finding this beautiful field full of weed, like 20,000 plants in total.....Goddess, I was near tears.....And of course the cop had to say, "This is 20,000 plants that won't be in the streets....Police 1...Dealers 0"....I wanted to jump through the screen..grrrrrrrrrrr.....Just wondering if anyone else had peeped this show?
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2007, 01:15:14 PM »
YES YES AND YES  :D

I am a HUGE medical marijuana advocate. 

I just took action on this issue and thought you might find it
 interesting too.
U.S. House of Representatives is expected to vote shortly on the 2007
 Hinchey-Rohrabacher medical marijuana amendment.

Click on this URL to take action now
http://capwiz.com/norml2/utr/2/?a=9998376&i=1234&c=


the criminalization of cannabis is nothing more than dirty white men politics.
http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2007, 02:13:26 PM »
Queen, I did not get to see that show but am a firm believer in weed as a relaxant and now as a appetite stimulant. I have been smoking since I was 13 so that's 22 years.  Cristy

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2007, 05:01:50 PM »
Hey Queen,

I didn't see the show but am a California native and have a license to grow and smoke medicinal herbs.  It is a blessing for the side effects of the meds.

Not long ago, I was put on Trizivir and was sick every day.  My ID doc prescribed Marinol and it did not help much.  It was hard enough to stand up at the stove to heat a can of soup but could barely eat it because what goes down, must come up...

My neighbor began coming over to help me take care of me and brought something to be wrapped up in little papers.  All of a sudden, I was no longer sick every day and I was being my jovial self again.  I went to a special clinic in San Francisco, got a prescription and got registered with DHS.  There has been some conflict here in California re: whether the people with prescriptions are really sick.  They say we look too healthy, I say we take our medicine  ;D  Have the best day
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2007, 05:54:49 PM »
Let's all band together and legalize it. 

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2007, 08:11:32 PM »
I think it's insane that something pretty intense like alcohol is legal and something innocuous like pot is not.   Have you ever seen a bar fight when two people were stoned? 
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2007, 08:42:17 PM »
In another life, another time, another place, I used to circulate petitions to get marijuana on the ballot.  In that life, time, and place, most sdtoners were not registered to vote.  Last night on Letternan, there was discussion abour a Congressman who lost the stoner vote.  What stoner vote?  Twenty years later, the same people are still not registered.  OH WELL  ;D  Have the best day
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2007, 08:53:04 PM »
I think it's insane that something pretty intense like alcohol is legal and something innocuous like pot is not.   Have you ever seen a bar fight when two people were stoned? 

I'm no anti-drug campaigner but to say that pot is innocuous is a little disingenuous. There are enough studies out there to show that abuse of pot can lead to adverse physical and mental effects. Ask my doctor for a peak at my file if you want to see just what it can do. I have, and continue to, struggle with my pot useage and its effects.

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2007, 09:13:12 PM »
Cannabis should be treated with respect.  You can't deny the medicinal value of the Cannabis plant, not to mention the multi uses of Hemp.
It should be used for its therapeutic qualities and I believe that it should be made available to any person over the age of 21yrs old (just using this age because of our drinking age in the US). 


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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2007, 12:35:58 AM »
I definitely hopes that they pass the damn thing....Why should people who need it medicinally suffer? I will not try to front, I started smoking when I was 15, so yes, it was recreational. After becoming poz, it has become a necessity, I need it to eat. My ID doc tried putting me on Marinol but that was a joke. I can't take Megace because it conflicts with my depo shot. My primary doc knows all this but since he is a doc, he won't openly condone it but says I gotta do what I gotta do to eat. I really think it sucks that we can't even get it medicinally here in Pa.

I feel that the pros outweight the cons....Yeah, you lose your memory, ok...That goes in time anyway..Fearless, if ya don't mind, I would like to know how else it has affected you? Up to you whether you want to post here or in a pm. Puck, having been a bartender in the past I have seen drunken brawls and the damage people do. I agree, you don't see that with weed. If something was to jump off, it would be because someone is reaching for my food... ;D And whoever it was would be pulling back a nub. And Poz, I will check out that site and take some action. I try to make a difference when I can.

Sincerely,

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2007, 09:00:17 AM »
Well of course it can be abused.  So can sex.  Too much sugar isn't good for one's health, either.  I'm sure living in certain cities or near particular industries is just as bad for one, healthwise, as smoking pot.  I'm not talking about staying stoned all day and all night to the point where one can't function well.  Even then, as Scott says "Have you ever seen a bar fight when two people were stoned?"  We've got people who are obese due to lack of exercise and poor diet, but we haven't criminalized fatty foods or laziness.  I take Adderall for ADD.  It's basically prescription speed, but it works well in the doses that I take for ADD.  I've taken it for years and can't recall any times I've 'abused' it.  Certain drugs, like Adderall, have a much greater potential for abuse than pot.  Almost anything, drug or not, has the potential for being unhealthy.  Pot is no different.

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(Edited for a damned typo!)
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2007, 09:21:40 AM »
I believe 100% in using marijuana medically. I use it often, I do not sit down and get stoned a couple puffs is all it takes. As if with any drug it can be used incorrectly or abused. But it has been a God send for me, it relieves my neuropathy and helps with nausea. I have signed a petition here in Michigan to have it put on the ballot as a medical drug. I hope with all I have that it will be passed. It is ridiculous to refuse to allow people to use something that has such benefits to the quality of life.
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2007, 09:27:52 AM »
A couple years ago, pot (aka cannabis here in the UK) was down-graded from a class B drug to a class C drug. Certain factions in the government have been agitating recently to get it re-classified as class B. In yesterday's Independent, Johann Hari wrote an interesting editorial on the subject where he debunks some of the myths the opposition have been using to support their cause.

I wish the people who oppose medical pot could, for at least a week,  have to live with one of the conditions pot helps. They should be made to smoke pot just once, so they can see what the difference is, then not allowed to have it again. Maybe they'd change their tune.

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2007, 10:42:59 AM »
I bake ... I smoke... make my own canna butter for wonderful treats... and everyone always wants the secrets for my good moods... stone.. stoner... stoned are my 3 mottos... maybe thats why I've been able to hold down my food... eat... when I had no appetite... I prefer to smoke from a pipe... and use my homemade butter on my toast... Try it you'll like it! I am a firm supporter for medical use...

Offline pozattitude

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2007, 11:49:24 AM »
Well of course it can be abused.  So can sex.  Too much sugar isn't good for one's health, either.  I'm sure living in certain cities or near particular industries is just as bad for one, healthwise, as smoking pot.  I'm not talking about staying stoned all day and all night to the point where one can't function well.  Even then, as Scott says "Have you ever seen a bar fight when two people were stoned?"  We've got people who are obese due to lack of exercise and poor diet, but we haven't criminalized fatty foods or laziness.  I take Adderall for ADD.  It's basically prescription speed, but it works well in the does that I take for ADD.  I've taken it for years and can't recall any times I've 'abused' it.  Certain drugs, like Adderall, have a much greater potential for abuse than pot.  Almost anything, drug or not, has the potential for being unhealthy.  Pot is no different.

David
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OMG...LOL  ;D  I have ADHD and take Adderall too..and you are absolutely right...with the exception of my HIV meds, all other pre scripbed pharma man made drugs I take are way more addicting and have a much larger potential for abuse.
Also, with legal medical cannabis, I can chose the type of medicine I need, there is a big difference between Indica types and Sativas. 
Cannabis is not for everyone, just like any drug (man made big pharma included) has different effects on everyone.
In my case, it is a wonder drug.  I don't sit home all high all day, that happened when I took Marinol...the legal man made substitute for nature's best.

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2007, 01:29:47 PM »
I bake ... I smoke... make my own canna butter for wonderful treats... and everyone always wants the secrets for my good moods... stone.. stoner... stoned are my 3 mottos... maybe thats why I've been able to hold down my food... eat... when I had no appetite... I prefer to smoke from a pipe... and use my homemade butter on my toast... Try it you'll like it! I am a firm supporter for medical use...

We have a friend known as 'Brownie Rick'.  He always makes the best brownies and fudge and is very generous with them.  Eat one and it'll be with you for hours.  The only problem is when a gay man comes up with a grin on his face and asks an unsuspecting person "would you care for some fudge?"  It just brings up images of a scat daddy to me!

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2007, 07:48:30 PM »
Queenie,

Firstly, I love pot and firmly believe that it should be decriminilised, at the very least.

My problem is that I love it too much, and have great difficulty controlling my useage. I'd love nothing better than to be able to just have a cone or two after a hard day at work. Unfortunately, a cone or two becomes 30+ a day, from the time I wake till I finally crash that night. And, then I slip into the cycle of not functioning, missing weeks of work at a time. My paranoia and anxiety grows, and I lock myself in the house, not seeing anyone, not doing anything, not resolving any issues. I don't wash, clean or eat properly, which in turn feeds the anxiety and paranoia, and so the cycle continues. Everything builds up, and the only solution is more pot to get super stoned to the point that I don't care that I'm not at work, not eating properly, cleaning or looking after myself. You get the picture. People can be quite dismissive, and say, oh, it's just pot, just don't smoke so much, it ain't that hard, but it doesn't work like that for me. I guess I'm an emotional pot smoker, like binge eating or something, and I often use it to cover other issues that I am having at the time. I've had to have counselling on a number of occassions to get me over the super binges and get me back to work.

For the vast vast majority of people the pros do outway the cons, but some people do struggle with it. The same goes for alcohol and a variety of drugs though.

Everyone has the poison, and unfortunately/thankfully mine is pot. It's a double edged sword.

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2007, 07:53:30 PM »
Legalise the lot. Yahndi, smack, speed, coke. It's all good.

Sure a proportion of people will go overboard and be reduced to vegetable mush, but so what? We probably didn't need 'em anyway. To Matty the Damned's malignant mind these people constitute nothing more than mere collateral damage. Acceptable losses, so to speak.

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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2007, 08:03:43 PM »
But you do need me Matty, the world of community broadcasting would fall apart with out me  ;)
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2007, 08:05:58 PM »
Ah yes. Community broadcasting. For some reason I always forget that's your fault. :)

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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2007, 08:26:38 PM »
Fearless,

Damn dude! If I didn't know any better, I would think that you had those effects from something other than weed..But as they say, everything isn't for everybody. So does that mean you can't be around it at all, you know as in a room full of smokers for a contact high? Prolly not..In your case, I would just say NO. But I appreciate you sharing that with me.
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2007, 08:48:40 PM »
hey Queenie,

Don't worry, I still smoke  ;D. I like it too much.
You are somewhat right, in that I tend to binge when I'm trying to run or hide from something, but the effects (the paranoia, and paralyses) are a result of the binge. When not binging, I have none of these problems.
I've tried just saying NO, and I do having periods where I just don't touch it, but as you know pot is simply the best thing for that vile med nausea, so I keep coming back.
I've been a relatively heavy pot smoker for probably 25 years now. I never used to have these problems though, but with age I've found it to be more problematic. I guess my binging actually started when my ex was out for days at a time speeding off his dial. Smoking lots of pot was my way of coping with his absence. Issues I've been over and over with various shrinks and counsellors. Coming from a family with a histroy of mental illness probably doesn't help either.

At the end of the day though, I'm oddly glad that pot is my poison as opposed to some of the other substances that I could be abusing.

Matty, community broadcasting is for people who can't get elected to their local council or neighborhood watch committee.   ;D
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2007, 08:51:51 PM »
That is the beauty of being an individual, we all react to different things in different ways.
Fearless, I don't know if I want to say I am sorry or what.  I don't think you would still be here with us if you abused alcohol in the same way, so there is a positive (no pun intended) way of looking at this.
I reserve my cannabis for after work only, during the weekdays, I guess I am a good boy ::)
...now, weekends and any other time when I don't have to work, well let's just say I enjoy my breakfast with baked goods.

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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2007, 09:10:58 PM »
me too, Rich. Now I can pop my pills with confidence.

Thankfully, alcohol makes me puke, and with too much of any upper I become a nervous wreck and lose the plot.
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2007, 09:13:09 PM »
I didn't see the documentary but I gotta laugh tho cause back in 2002 my friend from Humboldt county found out I was strung out on drugs and paid me a visit with a grow light and some seeds. His answer for me to kick my drug habit was to grow weed. Well to keep a long story short After I went to rehab I started to grow the erb in my basement with out the wiffy knowing. first grow I ended up with about 12 Oz's.. Second grow about a 11/2 lbs. So I started selling it cause my drug habit kick back in. Then my marriage start to fall apart and the wife found out finally after about a 11 months. She threatened to call the cops if I didn't get rid of the weed. Damn I had to kill about 2 lbs that had about 3 weeks to mature. then a week later I come home high and she calls the cops on me. I only went home to get a OZ to sell so I can continue to get high Cops come and here I am with a oz. in my pocket. and it was skunk and it stunk. So the cop asking me if  I'm high and stuff I'm like no I'm not high but I was trying  not move so much cause when I moved around I would get a whiff of it. Man was I scared I thought I was definitely was going to get busted. But the nice police man told me to leave till tomorrow so I said no problem officer. LOL and frickin ran out the door. I weed was so potent that I use to trip when I smoked it.
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2007, 09:33:35 PM »
Fearless---You still smoking even though you get paranoid? I guess you have to know your limit, you been doing it for so long.

Poz--- I am around trees almost everyday in some way. Either I have it myself or I am at a friend's house who is blazing up. Everyone in my family smokes except my baby sister. My mother smoked her first joint when she was preggers with me. Can I say it's hereditary then? ;D

Asaint---- You should've married a toker man! You got to check out the documentary, it shows people who smoke it medicinally for all types of reasons and also shows the man's view including some politicians. But don't take my word for it, WATCH IT. I know what your friend did sounds crazy but I can relate to what to what he was saying. I did that. Now were you saying you grew and sold weed to maintain another habit? If so, WOW. And you definitely lucked out with the cop. If you woulda got busted, you coulda said it was yours and you smoke. But you still woulda got slapped because you had so much on you.
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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2007, 10:01:52 PM »
Queenie,

I just have to take that risk at the moment. The anti-inflammatories for my butt make me want to puke, constantly. I have no access to maranol in Australia, and pot is the only thing that works. I don't see any real alternative.
I have the perfect solution for my current dilemna, and that is to legalise and regulate it. They could put a smallish dosage  into cigarettes (i'm a smoker), and I could easily regulate my intake. With an oz and a bong in front of me, well....

I try not so smoke these days, and my last major crippling binge ended in October last year, although I did have a bad patch earlier this year, that the lovely Melia helped me get out of. Last years one, however, started as I was smoking lots when I first started meds. My liver, stomach and I had a great battle over several months, but the pot abuse pushed me very close to the edge in the end.
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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2007, 10:16:35 PM »
I am glad Miss Melia was there for you during that nightmare. Has noticed Miss Melia has helped others in the past and I think of her as the Florence Nightengale of the forums. What an angel.
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« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2007, 07:13:23 PM »
Another fantastically informative documentary available through Netflix is "Magic Weed," from 2003.  The Anarchist's Cookbook includes several interesting recipes aside from the usual brownies.  Any tomato sauce based recipe, like marinara sauce, benefits greatly.  My personal favorite is to use it in meatloaf.

To me, ingestion brings about a more relaxed, almost sleepy euphoria, while smoking weed seems to give me just a bit more energy and possibly a bit more creativity.  Nausea and general malaise are also greatly reduced.  The "herbal Prozac" effect is not to be overlooked, either.  I'm much more tractable in the mornings with a cuppa joe and a tight white.  ;)
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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2007, 07:38:43 PM »
Another fantastically informative documentary available through Netflix is "Magic Weed," from 2003.  The Anarchist's Cookbook includes several interesting recipes aside from the usual brownies.  Any tomato sauce based recipe, like marinara sauce, benefits greatly.  My personal favorite is to use it in meatloaf.

Oh really? I have a Netflix account. I am definitely gonna have to check that out. I have never cooked with it, nor have I ever tried the brownies. Basically cause I suck at baking... ;D
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« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2007, 07:56:57 PM »
Oh really? I have a Netflix account. I am definitely gonna have to check that out. I have never cooked with it, nor have I ever tried the brownies. Basically cause I suck at baking... ;D

Gurlllll.....
just wait 'till you come to AMG SF....i have a killer pastry chef friend who bakes delicious treats  ;D

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« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2007, 11:01:16 PM »
I wish I could make the AMG in SF but unfortunately I can't make it......
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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2007, 02:37:19 PM »
One fine California day, we baked some brownies and put too much incredients in.  My room mates were staying home and I had a night job.  Get that, I had a job... same life, different century.  Anyway, my job was at least an hour away from my house and I was kind of out of it for most of the night.

I got home the next day and the brownies were still in the pan and left on the coffee table.  I guessed the room mates enjoyed their evening.  Sometime later my Red dog was not feeling her best so... off to the vet we go.  Within a couple of days the vet called my parents to ask if Red dog could have gotten in to any drugs.

My mom called my house to hear, "no, my brother is in town so Michael and I hid all of our drugs."   ;D  Have the best day
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« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2007, 04:24:49 PM »
I finally watched In Pot We Trust.... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

It makes me so angry to hear the DEA and the idiots who refuse to accept the proven scientific evidence of the medicinal qualities of marijuana. 
and after watching the story of Jacqueline Patterson, the mother of 4 who has cerebral palsy, :'(  I felt guilty to live in California....I want to give her my medicine ...how can anyone deny the benefits of cannabis after watching this woman?  What kind country do we live in?
It made me so mad I wanted to cry.
I know it is all about politics and big pharma lobbying, after all, anyone can grow marijuana, you don't need to buy it from Roche or Glaxo. 
Can you imagine, a plant that grows wild, with little to no care and that can treat nausea, anorexia, PN, MS, muscle spasms, glaucoma, anxiety, depression, post traumatic stress disorder, chronic muscle and nerve pain, and many other things? 

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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2007, 04:52:07 PM »
Queen Aska, To make canna butter... put water in a sauce pan then put real butter in the pan and then your main ingredient... (weed) boil for a few minutes... take off of the heat and let simmer with a lid on the sauce pan... now here's the part where you will strain the water from the butter and weed... I use a strainer... then to get most of the particles out ... I strain cheese cloth.... save the butter in a container... sorta like making herb butter... the THC is attracted to the fat in the butter... you can use this as regular butter on your toast or in pasteries... candies etc...

the only reason for marijuana being illegal in the USA... watch the history channell ... south western states wanted to find a way to get rid of mexican workers... in the 1930's during the depression... the mexican workers were known to use this for recreational usage... the history channel has a great documentary on this...

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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2007, 05:08:15 PM »
the only reason for marijuana being illegal in the USA... watch the history channell ... south western states wanted to find a way to get rid of mexican workers... in the 1930's during the depression... the mexican workers were known to use this for recreational usage... the history channel has a great documentary on this...

You are correct,

In 1930, Harry J. Anslinger is given control of the new Federal Bureau of Narcotics (he remains in the position until 1962)
Here are quotes from Anslinger campaign to criminalize marijuana"

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."

"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."

pure racism....and it still stands.


really good article with history of the criminalization of cannabis on http://marijuana.drugwarrant.com
A brief history of the criminalization of cannabis


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« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2007, 09:36:30 PM »
I felt bad for the girl with the 4 kids too. What got me was when the police was tearing down all that weed. I know someone here who got busted for having an ounce on him. But when it came time for trial, it was missing out of the evidence room. I got pulled over once for smoking in my car, actually they were at the same store I was and was about to apprehend someone when they smelled the aroma out of my car. The blunt was in the ashtray, I left it there on purpose because here most cops will not bother doing paperwork for a blunt. The cop had the nerve to tell me that the weed I had was garbage. If it was so garbage then why take it? I know he smoked it later on.... ;D

Poz~~ Did that vote pass for the marijuana bill? I forget when you said that was.

Dixieman~~ I will have to get the specifics of that recipe..How about sending me a PM?
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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2007, 11:56:29 PM »
No Queen, our Congress voted against the bill .  The feds are still allowed to prosecute anyone who is caught with marijuana, even in the states where we can legally get our medical cannabis.  >:( :'( ???
but the fight goes on...lol.  The results were a little better this time, even some Republicans voted in favor of the bill this time.  We'll get there, we just can't give up!



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« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2007, 02:14:07 AM »
If I wasnt soooo stoned right now I would give you all a piece of my mind. ;D Now where did I put those damned rolling papers?
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« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2007, 03:03:39 AM »
If I wasnt soooo stoned right now I would give you all a piece of my mind. ;D Now where did I put those damned rolling papers?

Hmmm, you sound like an amatuer. A pro keeps all his paraphenlia together.... ;)

Damn, I am sorry to hear that the bill didn't pass. I don't think the state of Pa will ever approve medicinal weed. Maybe I need to marry an old billionaire and move to California. Move into a mansion with one room being a weed nursery.... ;D
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« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2007, 03:05:05 AM »
LOL ;D
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« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2007, 09:48:07 AM »
From one "queen" to another, I'm with you 100%! Why should I be made to feel like a criminal just for obtaining something that is necessary for my health?
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« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2007, 11:54:03 AM »
Iam a firm believe in smoking pot for medicinal uses..
They legalized booze and thats worse.
My friend had cancer and she was given a pill ..A tiny little orange pill that contained thc..the element that give you your hi..


It worked great for her..No thowing up and gave her an appetite to help her eat.
Its good for aids patients and cancer patients as well.
Its good for glaucoma, and so many more benefits,, just cant think of them all
now..So why not legalize this ...Hell, it would save me a trip into the streets
and copping a bag...I would hate to get busted for something i needed.
It doesn't destroy the brain..That's bullcrap..Hope they legalize it here in the USA.
Its already legal in many other states....sign the petition that was posted in this
thread...............Now let me light up..iam feeling ill in my stomach / probably from
the kaletra, which gives you the runs..........oy ve :P
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« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2007, 11:59:21 AM »
Here's some scary news about KS and pot smoking.  I suppose this could be along the lines of the much questioned poppers connection, but as it comes from the American Association for Cancer Research I'd put some stock in it if your cd4 count is low.  Or at least be on the look out for more news.

Marijuana Component Opens The Door For Virus That Causes Kaposi's Sarcoma
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« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2007, 03:05:37 PM »
Thanks for the link. I really don't know how to respond to it. I think my cd4 is pretty good but it sad to hear what I love most can kill me. Will that give me cause to stop...NO..When my time is come to leave this world, I hope I am high or having sex... ;)
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« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2007, 03:56:40 PM »
I'm am a little skeptical about this study.  It was funded by the National Institutes of Health, which is the government, and I don't trust the government.
I have done extensive research on medical marijuana, and I have found several studies that marijuana has now been shown to have strong antioxidative and neuroprotective effects, which may prolong neuronal cell survival.  Some studies have also ďA strong and statistically significant anti-tumor effect was observed Ö In particular, for a highly malignant human breast carcinoma cell line Ö cannabidiol and a cannabidiol-rich extract counteract cell growth both in vivo and in vitro as well as tumor metastasis in vivo.Ē

While I have read numerous studies that show that cannabis actually helps stop the growth of cancer cells and in some instances even "ZAPS" the cancer cells.

I would like to see an independent (non bias) study on this KS relationship.

I'll take my chances.  It is a better option  than to live with the pain for PN and it is the only thing that keeps me from wasting.

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« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2007, 05:01:36 PM »
wha......  you don't trust teh gubment for ganja information?
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« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2007, 05:07:14 PM »
wha......  you don't trust teh gubment for ganja information?

where do you get this impression from?  ::)
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« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2007, 06:20:05 PM »
where do you get this impression from?  ::)

You act as if there's a War on Drugs or something.
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« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2007, 07:17:14 AM »
This article will not stop me from doing what i have been doing since i was
diagnosed..Its my body,, and everyones body acts differently to meds as
it would to pot...It helps me so.. ::) Iam gonna keep on truckin
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« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2007, 07:25:40 PM »
I got 5 on it.... ;D
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« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2007, 02:43:16 PM »
Hypothesis:
Alarmist reports about marijuana will turn out to be wildly exaggerated and in some cases completely fictitious. Obvious inconsistencies will be overlooked by the press and widely available contrary evidence will be ignored.

Methodology:
I read various stories about marijuana and used basic logic and reasoning to determine whether their conclusions made any sense. In some cases, I used Google and other sources to search for other information that contradicted seemingly dubious claims.


Fake Findings:
>Marijuana Increases the Risk of Psychosis by 40%: This one turned out to be totally wrong. Apparently a correlation between marijuana use and psychosis doesn't necessarily mean that marijuana caused the psychosis. Many of the researchers made this clear in their findings, but reporters left it out. Furthermore, none of the stories on this topic explained that the risk of psychosis is small, so a 40% increase isn't that significant to begin with. Reporters also failed to observe that massive increases in marijuana use over the past century have not corresponded with increased rates of psychosis.
 
Smoking a Joint is as Bad For Your Lungs as 5 Cigarettes: This report also turned out to be almost entirely bogus. Shockingly, "air flow" was the only category (of several) in which marijuana was determined to be more harmful. Researchers stated that marijuana was 2.5 to 5 times more harmful than tobacco in this category, which reporters simply rounded up to 5 for the headline (behold the lofty journalistic standards of Reuters). Reporters also failed to mention conclusive research proving that marijuana does not cause lung cancer; a notable omission since "bad for your lungs" likely implies cancer for many readers. Finally, media reports failed to explain that marijuana users consume far less per day, and do not continue using for nearly as many years as tobacco smokers.
 
Marijuana May Cause Skin Cancer: I don't know anything about skin cancer, so I won't attempt to refute the findings of this Harvard study. The manner in which it was reported, however, leaves much to be desired. The FOX News headline reads "Study: Marijuana Use May Cause Skin Cancer." Only upon reading the article does the reader discover that only one extremely rare form of skin cancer has been associated with marijuana, and that the researchers claim that more research is needed. Furthermore, only people with weakened immune systems are even susceptible to this infection. A more appropriate headline would have been "Study: Marijuana May Cause Skin Cancer Under Very Rare Circumstances."
 
Conclusions:
Reading coverage of marijuana research in the mainstream press increases the risk of becoming misinformed by 50-300%. More research is clearly needed to identify further sources of flawed marijuana reporting. The risk of bad reporting remains stable despite concerted efforts to inform the media that hysterical claims about marijuana frequently lack scientific merit. Exposure to poorly researched news about marijuana is correlated with support for costly, ineffective, highly punitive marijuana laws.
 
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle_blog/2007/aug/01/new_study_marijuana_does_not_cau

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« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2007, 01:16:19 PM »
Too bad we can't make our own commercials....sort of like the one called The Truth...
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« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2007, 05:22:09 PM »
Oh... I do want to warn everyone.. before you smoke your weed... please put your green in the microwave for about 10 secounds or a few less.. this helps kill bacteria and fungus... that may infect your lungs... this is a good precaution to take... then smoke on...

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« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2007, 05:25:32 PM »
Oh... I do want to warn everyone.. before you smoke your weed... please put your green in the microwave for about 10 secounds or a few less.. this helps kill bacteria and fungus... that may infect your lungs... this is a good precaution to take... then smoke on...

very true for those who do not have access to high grade medical cannabis...another reason why we must STOP THE INSANITY!!!


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« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2007, 01:55:49 PM »
I had no idea this many people smoked! Everytime I even mention smoking to someone else who is poz they just look at me like I have 5 heads or something. Looks like I am in good company here :D

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« Reply #56 on: August 10, 2007, 02:51:40 PM »
I had no idea this many people smoked! Everytime I even mention smoking to someone else who is poz they just look at me like I have 5 heads or something. Looks like I am in good company here :D
                                                                                   Hello, HealthyMomma.   Welcome to the forums. Seems like lots of us smoke. I  have for 22 years and don't plan on stopping anytime soon.  You are in great company here, even the ones that don't smoke are great people.  Enjoy.  Cristy(edited cause this bag is really good)
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« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2007, 03:02:18 PM »
Well, I'm not going to be without my favorite medicine... smoke-out in room ?? at AMG'07!

But seriously, it truly is the only way I can get through the nausea and tingles (neuropathy).  Marinol just makes me sick to my stomach and gives me cramps.

Glad to see that so many others here believe in the natural way to alleviate discomfort and paini!

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« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2007, 03:16:38 PM »
I had no idea this many people smoked! Everytime I even mention smoking to someone else who is poz they just look at me like I have 5 heads or something. Looks like I am in good company here :D

Hi there HealthyMomma,

I am curious to know why they look at you so strange.  Marijuana is proven to be extremely beneficial treating nausea.  There are studies done that also show that in a controlled group study, those who used marijuana had a higher Cd4 count and lower VL.  I'm not saying that cannabis will boost your Cd4 but because it treats nausea, the group using cannabis ate and that has a direct impact on their health.
Also studies have proven the benefits of marijuana to treat PN.

Vince-
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« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2007, 10:00:43 PM »
Thank you for the welcome. I just joined here and think I'm getting addicted already! lol I am not sure why everyone thinks I'm crazy. But, for one, I don't know very many people who are poz so maybe thats one reason, but the people that I know are poz think I am crazy. Talking about how its a drug and blah blah blah... I would much rather smoke pot then drink...which is not a great thing to do to a liver thats being abused by the meds ya know?!

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« Reply #60 on: August 11, 2007, 01:04:52 AM »
Hey Momma~~~

Trust me sister, no one here talks about weed more than me. I have earned the names Queen Tokelove and GQ which stands for Green Queen. I was given these names from people here. I have been smoking since I was 15 and am now 38. I don't front, it started out to be recreational but now it helps me to eat. Maybe someday we can compare notes or whatever.

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« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2007, 08:57:10 AM »
http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=jrrsuzdw0g

Marihuana 1936 propoganda film.

 :D :D :D :D ??? ::)

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« Reply #62 on: August 13, 2007, 09:20:03 AM »
 ::) I agree that any plant substance that can help others should be available, BUT my issue is the "smoke" which harms the lungs. Sure you make fix the side-effect of meds issue, but are you causing more damage to your lungs and body.

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« Reply #63 on: August 13, 2007, 09:42:33 AM »
Everytime I even mention smoking to someone else who is poz they just look at me like I have 5 heads or something.

well if they get mad and start to lecture you, just say "make peace with the pipe baby" and walk away

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« Reply #64 on: August 13, 2007, 09:46:48 AM »
I don't smoke pot anymore. I make brownies instead!

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« Reply #65 on: August 13, 2007, 03:48:08 PM »
::) I agree that any plant substance that can help others should be available, BUT my issue is the "smoke" which harms the lungs. Sure you make fix the side-effect of meds issue, but are you causing more damage to your lungs and body.

that is why there are VAPORIZERS

http://marijuanavaporizer.com/benefits.html


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« Reply #66 on: August 13, 2007, 03:57:51 PM »
I am forever hung on a government that will insist there is not a medicinal benefit to marijuana while licensing its sale in pill form through pharma companies.
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« Reply #67 on: August 13, 2007, 04:07:25 PM »
I am forever hung on a government that will insist there is not a medicinal benefit to marijuana while licensing its sale in pill form through pharma companies.
even better...they allow cocaine and opiates to be prescribed and distributed.

the bottom line is:

a) there is too much money to be lost by big corporations and government with the legalization of cannabis (it is food, medicine, paper, clothing, oil for industry and probably fuel as well)
b) it is a purely racist law...just read the history of the criminalization of marijuana


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« Reply #68 on: August 13, 2007, 04:09:20 PM »
even better...they allow cocaine and opiates to be prescribed and distributed.


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« Reply #69 on: August 13, 2007, 04:15:09 PM »
PS-  I am a bit lost on how it can be "too profitable" to allow for all these wholesome purposes.  Wouldn't that jump start the economy in a righteous way?  What?  Afraid people will simply grow it themselves and do it themselves?  Perhaps.  But never underestimate the laziness of Americans.  Especially if they have some weed to smoke. 

The racist crap I can buy right away. 
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« Reply #70 on: August 13, 2007, 04:17:42 PM »
Today, cocaine is a Schedule II drug --  but can be administered by a doctor for legitimate medical uses, such as a local anesthetic for certain eye, ear, and throat surgeries.


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« Reply #71 on: August 13, 2007, 04:25:21 PM »
PS-  I am a bit lost on how it can be "too profitable" to allow for all these wholesome purposes.  Wouldn't that jump start the economy in a righteous way?  What?  Afraid people will simply grow it themselves and do it themselves?  Perhaps.  But never underestimate the laziness of Americans.  Especially if they have some weed to smoke. 

The racist crap I can buy right away. 

I wasn't very clear on the profit thing.

Hemp is better suited for paper manufacturing than the trees we cut down today.  The entire paper industry pays the government big bucks to keep Hemp illegal ( mind you Hemp can not get you high, it is for industrial purposes only).  Same can be said about the textile industry ( hemp is an even better natural fiber than cotton).

The pharma industry....well, cannabis is better than any manufactured medicine out there for the treatment of PN, nausea, glaucoma, MS and other degenerative muscle disorders.  That is MILLIONS if not BILLIONS of dollars they would lose.

It is all about the mighty $$$$$$$, and white republican men of course...lol :P

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« Reply #72 on: August 13, 2007, 05:14:35 PM »
More on interpreting Hazy Warnings About Pot and Mental Illness...

here is more on that bogus article about pot and psychosis.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-armentano-and-mitch-earleywine/interpreting-hazy-warning_b_59543.html

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« Reply #73 on: August 13, 2007, 07:35:03 PM »
How long does THC stay in your system? & I wonder if any of those concoctions you can take to flush yourself out would interfear with my HIV meds?

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« Reply #74 on: August 13, 2007, 08:00:18 PM »
I think that pot probably has great medical use, but I personally can not stand the smell.

Till this day I have not tried it.
A couple of my friends do it and some of their parents too.
Its super weird how they go out by the pool and sit and lounge smoking pot with like the kids jumping in the pool and the dog barking.

My girlfriend was telling me what would I do if the doctor told me to smoke pot 3 times a day because of its benefits or because i had to.

I told her I probably could not do it. The smell is repulsive!
She then said, "well you dont know what it feels like to be high" lol

I am all for the medical use of POT, but personally I don't consent with the use of pot as a recreational drug.

And to kinda bring up a point about pot.... I know that in a bar people fight when drunk, and if your stoned you probably wouldnt. But drunk or stoned get behind the wheel of the car and you have a bad combo...
Its a very commong happening in Miami - (Nicole Richie confessed to be smoking pot and she went into oncoming traffic on the highway-- that was priceless)

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« Reply #75 on: August 13, 2007, 08:11:36 PM »
Queen, please.  Nicole Richie was probably on smack again when she, um...smacked into the tree or car or whatever it was. 

And yes, I noticed from either your MySpace or your bio that you are generally "against things that are socially taboo" or something to that effect.

Which was an odd read under an avalanche of photos of a queen with a cigarette dangling from her lips.

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« Reply #76 on: August 13, 2007, 08:14:43 PM »
A smoke is not bad. Aside it makes a great picture. Once again pick on someone your own age.....  ;) I am just expressing my views. thats what forums are for.

Queen, please.  Nicole Richie was probably on smack again when she, um...smacked into the tree or car or whatever it was. 

And yes, I noticed from either your MySpace or your bio that you are generally "against things that are socially taboo" or something to that effect.

Which was an odd read under an avalanche of photos of a queen with a cigarette dangling from her lips.

Just sayin'.

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« Reply #77 on: August 13, 2007, 08:14:59 PM »
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I don't appreciate drug use, abuse of alcohol, or anything that is social taboo.


There it is.  From your bio.

Hate to tell ya.  Buttsex?  It's still pretty taboo.


Buttsex with cigarettes?


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« Reply #78 on: August 13, 2007, 08:16:17 PM »
Well not as much as drug use.


There it is.  From your bio.

Hate to tell ya.  Buttsex?  It's still pretty taboo.


Buttsex with cigarettes?


I'll pray for you.


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« Reply #79 on: August 13, 2007, 08:17:30 PM »
I guess weed affects people differently as I have found out. Nicole Richie was more than likely doing something else besides pot, I wouldn't doubt it. I drive all the time when high and has no problem with it. I only drink on occasion and if I am smoking too then most definitely I will not drive. If someone had to worry about me behind the wheel it would have to be if I was upset because I notice I tend to drive faster when pissed.

It is a person's choice if they want to smoke weed. Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with recreational smoking of weed. I don't think people that smoke weed should be made to look like lazy idiots which is what the anti drug commercials portray. In Pot We Trust shows how people need it medicinally but even still they were able to function or it made it possible to function. I think pot gets the bad rap for all other drugs out there. I don't buy it is a gateway drug. I think people try drugs to experiment.
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« Reply #80 on: August 13, 2007, 08:18:40 PM »
A smoke is not bad. Aside it makes a great picture.


You don't have to tell me.  If it lights, I'll smoke it.

Once again pick on someone your own age.....  ;) I am just expressing my views. thats what forums are for.

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« Reply #81 on: August 13, 2007, 08:21:17 PM »
YOU ARE 100% right!
My friends parents are very smart people! They own a real estate company and her mom is in the top 5% of realtors in the nation.
I think pot has alot of good use, but I personally don't think I could smoke it. I can barely stay in the room when people smoke it.


I guess weed affects people differently as I have found out. Nicole Richie was more than likely doing something else besides pot, I wouldn't doubt it. I drive all the time when high and has no problem with it. I only drink on occasion and if I am smoking too then most definitely I will not drive. If someone had to worry about me behind the wheel it would have to be if I was upset because I notice I tend to drive faster when pissed.

It is a person's choice if they want to smoke weed. Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with recreational smoking of weed. I don't think people that smoke weed should be made to look like lazy idiots which is what the anti drug commercials portray. In Pot We Trust shows how people need it medicinally but even still they were able to function or it made it possible to function. I think pot gets the bad rap for all other drugs out there. I don't buy it is a gateway drug. I think people try drugs to experiment.

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« Reply #82 on: August 13, 2007, 08:22:23 PM »


You don't have to tell me.  If it lights, I'll smoke it.

As am I, dearest.   ;)

But you are fighting with my views so post a thread without quoting.... It might not seem like your going against my views.
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« Reply #83 on: August 13, 2007, 08:39:08 PM »
Jessem~~ I respect the fact that you don't smoke, it just means more for me.. ;) But how can Thunter post a thread w/o commenting? That doesn't make sense to me, just saying...


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« Reply #84 on: August 13, 2007, 08:41:36 PM »
that doesn't make sense to me, just saying...




Consider the source darling.

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« Reply #85 on: August 13, 2007, 08:45:26 PM »
I was not paying attention to my word choice just trying to type. My fault...

PS: for those people who have nothing nice to say please don't say anything at all. It makes you look uglier than you already are.

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« Reply #86 on: August 13, 2007, 08:47:40 PM »
regardless of any right wing core moral values anyone may have, the purpose of the documentary was to make a point regarding the medical use of the plant.  It is clear that the government refuses to accept the scientific evidence of the medical qualities of cannabis; instead, the government uses the same ideology that is "against things that are socially taboo" as "reason" for the criminalization of marijuana.

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« Reply #87 on: August 13, 2007, 08:48:09 PM »
Alright.  I shall quote someone else.


that doesn't make sense to me, just saying...


Consider the source darling.



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« Reply #88 on: August 13, 2007, 08:51:21 PM »
regardless of any right wing core moral values anyone may have, the purpose of the documentary was to make a point regarding the medical use of the plant.  It is clear that the government refuses to accept the scientific evidence of the medical qualities of cannabis; instead, the government uses the same ideology that is "against things that are socially taboo" as "reason" for the criminalization of marijuana.

Jessem3s-
I wish and hope that when you go on meds that you don't have any side effects, and I do mean this, I don't say it to be spiteful; but if you do need to treat symptoms like nausea and PN, well, do yourself a favor and do some research on the subject.

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Ps...Queen this one's for you....  ;D

I am not against POT.
I bet there is good medical use for it, but I personally can not smoke that.
It smells horrific.
If it was in a pill maybe I could take it.

But hopefully I will never need such things.

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« Reply #89 on: August 13, 2007, 08:52:29 PM »
Hey, guys, just saying, we all KNOW there is really only one "QUEEN" in our Forums, as much as you may beg to differ!  She started this thread.......

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« Reply #90 on: August 13, 2007, 08:56:25 PM »
Jessem,

Sweetie, Marinol is the pill form of mary jane......
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« Reply #91 on: August 13, 2007, 08:58:05 PM »
Thats why I said maybe as a pill I can take it!

But for now I don't need it so i'm good!

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« Reply #92 on: August 13, 2007, 08:58:20 PM »
Hey, guys, just saying, we all KNOW there is really only one "QUEEN" in our Forums, as much as you may beg to differ!  She started this thread.......

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« Reply #93 on: August 13, 2007, 08:59:32 PM »
Hey, guys, just saying, we all KNOW there is really only one "QUEEN" in our Forums, as much as you may beg to differ!  She started this thread.......

~Cindy
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LOL....OMG...Cindy, this is too funny, I didn't catch that 'til now.... :D

I meant to say Queen Tokelove, I would never pass my baby to Nancy Reagan's boy.....LOL.....

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« Reply #94 on: August 13, 2007, 09:02:39 PM »
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PS: for those people who have nothing nice to say please don't say anything at all. It makes you look uglier than you already are.

Jessum

I'm just curious about a couple of things...do you consider the above quote a nice thing to say?.. is it an attempt at humour?...or could it be that you just need to practice what you preach.."If you have nothing nice to say then don't say it at all".

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« Reply #95 on: August 13, 2007, 09:04:35 PM »
I don't say anything rude unless I am being treated harshly or in an unecessary manner...
So if people play nice I will be nice! Im not hard to get along with im very easy to deal with.

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« Reply #96 on: August 13, 2007, 09:19:38 PM »
Jessem

You said if there was a pill...That sounds like you did not know there was a pill. I think I am done here, I didn't start this thread to argue and I do not want it locked. Maybe you should take Rich's advice and do some research. I hope for your sake that marinol works for you cause if not, I am afraid you are going to be up the preverbial creek w/o a paddle. Now if you please, anymore beef you may have, please start your own thread. Thanks.
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #97 on: August 13, 2007, 09:22:05 PM »
I think I am done here


Maybe I'm wrong, but....


them sounds like lightin' words to me!


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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #98 on: August 13, 2007, 09:26:28 PM »
Jess, you need to know that you have been reported several times by other moderators for among other things the hostile nature of your comments.

You're very, VERY new to these Forums. In that short time you've managed to antagonize a number of people. As Jan has pointed out, using a term like "it makes you look uglier than you are" is nasty and just the kind of thing that can easily start a flame war.

You're giving off very prickly attitude. Cool it. Expressing yourself here also comes with responsibility. It should also tell you something that this thread didn't turn into scrapping until you started participating.

In a very short time you've gotten yourself to the edge of getting a time out. So please, don't snap back at me or anyone else right now with some kind of sassy retort. Take a breath and ease off a bit. You don't have to prove anything here about who you are or anything else.

There's more to you than what you've been showing, but what you've been showing is not likely to make others interested in getting to know you better.

And yes, we know you don't like the smell of pot. We got that.
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #99 on: August 13, 2007, 09:37:19 PM »
Loves to take some hits off good ole Mary Jane every now and then; purely for recreational purposes here.
I find it goes best with my dvd of the Monterey Rock Pop Festival of 1967.
Would like pot to be legal.  In fact, when no longer working at a place with random drug screenings, I will enjoy it more often.  Sad thing is, even if it's legalized, or if you have a prescription for it, the company you work for can still have a policy against it, and you will be out of a job.

Offer 2 small links here just for fun.

The first, just shows that as backwards and behind as we seem here in the South, and Arkansas, not everyone is nonprogressive:

Eureka Springs, AR legalizes pot:    http://www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp?S=5663939


And this next one is just a tension breaker for fun:     http://youtube.com/watch?v=XwjSJ3__jVY

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« Reply #100 on: August 13, 2007, 09:46:24 PM »
Well I think if you review the forum you can see why I would lash BACK at those who made an uncalled for comment.


Jess, you need to know that you have been reported several times by other moderators for among other things the hostile nature of your comments.

You're very, VERY new to these Forums. In that short time you've managed to antagonize a number of people. As Jan has pointed out, using a term like "it makes you look uglier than you are" is nasty and just the kind of thing that can easily start a flame war.

You're giving off very prickly attitude. Cool it. Expressing yourself here also comes with responsibility. It should also tell you something that this thread didn't turn into scrapping until you started participating.

In a very short time you've gotten yourself to the edge of getting a time out. So please, don't snap back at me or anyone else right now with some kind of sassy retort. Take a breath and ease off a bit. You don't have to prove anything here about who you are or anything else.

There's more to you than what you've been showing, but what you've been showing is not likely to make others interested in getting to know you better.

And yes, we know you don't like the smell of pot. We got that.


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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #101 on: August 13, 2007, 09:59:57 PM »
Jess, with all compassion, I give you this age-old sage advice:

"Never Pick A Fight With Someone Who Buys Ink By The Barrel"

When a moderator tells you to cool your heels, there are reasons for them saying it.   If you don't do it, they will do it for you.

In my reply to one of your  pm that we had, I told you the great pitfalls of electronic communication formats like this.  One must exercise a great deal of temperance to avoid becoming offensive, or, to avoid being picked on, or felt like they are being picked on, etc, etc.

If I ever get one of those mad momma talks from a moderator, I will be so ashamed, I will be afraid to show my face.  Don't  confuse gentleness and courtesy with seriousnous.  The message conveyed is the same what ever tone it takes.   And from whomever it is given.
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« Reply #102 on: August 13, 2007, 10:16:33 PM »
Jessem,

Sweetie, Marinol is the pill form of mary jane......

I take it twice daily, cause I can't keep wait on...and have to say...LOVE IT! Along with a 4500 cal a day diet, exercise and let's not forget go ol'ensure...for those of us who can't tolerate the smoking...cause if I could, let me tell you I would!! But then again, love my brownies...but trying to keep the weight on like the extra bene too!!

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« Reply #103 on: August 13, 2007, 10:18:39 PM »
I take it twice daily, cause I can't keep wait on...and have to say...LOVE IT!

Well I would be more than happy to try it as a pill!

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« Reply #104 on: August 13, 2007, 10:20:52 PM »
Well I would be more than happy to try it as a pill!

Put in a brownie and live a little...we all know how Ms Judy ended up on pills...and can we say "Valley of the Dolls!" ;D
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« Reply #105 on: August 13, 2007, 10:24:44 PM »
Put in a brownie and live a little...we all know how Ms Judy ended up on pills...and can we say "Valley of the Dolls!" ;D

I wouldn't pay any attention to that. You know how bitchy fags can be!

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« Reply #106 on: August 13, 2007, 10:26:02 PM »
Put in a brownie and live a little...we all know how Ms Judy ended up on pills...and can we say "Valley of the Dolls!" ;D

Everyone has a different way of life and a different choice to make.
I would take a pill anytime!

Do you want my shipping address so you can send me 1?

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« Reply #107 on: August 13, 2007, 10:32:00 PM »
Everyone has a different way of life and a different choice to make.
I would take a pill anytime!

Do you want my shipping address so you can send me 1?

Rich quotes from Valley of the Dolls,

I want a doll! I want a doll!
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« Reply #108 on: August 13, 2007, 10:35:56 PM »
Rich quotes from Valley of the Dolls,

I want a doll! I want a doll!


A doll?? Come on!!! You should ask for a life size ken doll!

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=171307832&MyToken=94872718-ca1a-4a84-879e-3b4a114b334c


Or better ask for a doll with your face on it!!!
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« Reply #109 on: August 13, 2007, 10:39:11 PM »
sweety,
You've got to climb Mount Everest to reach the Valley of the Dolls.

you'll learn

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« Reply #110 on: August 13, 2007, 10:40:34 PM »
sweety,
You've got to climb Mount Everest to reach the Valley of the Dolls.

you'll learn

Rich
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Re: In pot we trust........
« Reply #111 on: August 13, 2007, 11:08:39 PM »
oy vey.


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« Reply #112 on: August 13, 2007, 11:18:12 PM »
Um, excuse me, this is a thread about weed not dolls...Go take your dolls, ken, barbie and whoever the chick is in the pic and go to Pee Wee's playhouse.....That is all..... ;D
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« Reply #113 on: August 13, 2007, 11:20:28 PM »
ROFLMAO. Now pass the pot. ;D

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« Reply #114 on: August 13, 2007, 11:20:51 PM »
Zackly, Your Majesty.

Matty the Damned is thinking of returning to the wicked weed. He was a HUGE smoker some years ago, but gave it up. Nevertheless he and his sister twisted a nice one up the other day and it was most pleasant.

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« Reply #115 on: August 13, 2007, 11:25:09 PM »
Who's stoned? I am merely traveling incognito.


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« Reply #116 on: August 13, 2007, 11:27:04 PM »
i used to get the giggles.  after awhile, it just made me real sleepy and in the mood to just sit there.  gave it up for the most part.  almost never have it now, so when i do...

it's the glory days yet again.
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« Reply #117 on: August 13, 2007, 11:27:59 PM »
Zackly, Your Majesty.

Matty the Damned is thinking of returning to the wicked weed. He was a HUGE smoker some years ago, but gave it up. Nevertheless he and his sister twisted a nice one up the other day and it was most pleasant.

MtD

Wonders if the good green makes my Matty more evil? This could be a beautiful thing!!!! Knows that Aussie green is prolly the shiznit compared to the American green. Do they have UPS in Aussieland?

Awww, Rich. Forgot to add in previous thread, loved the bong, you should see my friend's it twice as long. She collect glass bottles and makes bongs out of them. She even does engraving...See potheads are creative... ;)
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« Reply #118 on: August 13, 2007, 11:35:53 PM »
Queen darling,

your artist friend can sell them, art is always desired by those who appreciate it.  not kidding, the internet is a wonderful place to start a business.

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« Reply #119 on: August 13, 2007, 11:49:06 PM »
My girl usually does sell some here and there but she does not have the internet. And the Man has shut down all of our head shops.....Hey, I want some Purple.... :-[
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« Reply #120 on: August 14, 2007, 12:14:05 AM »
Wonders if the good green makes my Matty more evil? This could be a beautiful thing!!!! Knows that Aussie green is prolly the shiznit compared to the American green. Do they have UPS in Aussieland?

We grow fuckin' primo bush heads out here in Boolaboolabongbong, babe. :) I'd bundle you off a couple of ounces of some choice heads, but those fuckin' quarantine beagles would be all over us in a second . . .

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« Reply #121 on: August 14, 2007, 03:51:45 PM »
For my Queen...and all you other stoners.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyX3a-kryhA



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« Reply #122 on: August 14, 2007, 06:48:54 PM »
That's why we have helicopters to get us up there faster!!! You see I learn fast!


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Re: In pot we trust........fire this one up!
« Reply #123 on: August 14, 2007, 09:42:26 PM »
For my Queen...and all you other stoners.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyX3a-kryhA



This is SMOKIN'.

Um, sorry but I don't get it at all? Not my type of music and don't know what the hell shanty even means...This was truly lost on me....
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« Reply #124 on: August 14, 2007, 09:55:13 PM »
Hey Queen, it's a southern thing really.   Hillbillies, Cajun's, and those that live in very rural areas.  It's one step below a tar-paper shack, but one step above a barn.  Imagine the most run-down decrepit shack that you can.  There are also shanty-boats that people live on.  There is a great example of this in one of the "Tammy" movies, but I can not remember the particular one.

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« Reply #125 on: August 14, 2007, 09:58:33 PM »
and here are the lyrics, if they help.
That youtube artist nailed it, too... thanks, thunter! 
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Gonna sit down in the kitchen
And fix me something good to eat
And make my head a little high
And make this whole day complete
Cuz we gonna lay around the shanty, mama
And put a good buzz on

Well pass it to me baby
Pass it to me slow
We'll take time out to smile a little
Before we let it go
Cuz we gonna lay around the shanty, mama
And put a good buzz on

Well there ain't nothin' to do
And there's always room for more
Fill it, light it, shut up
And close the door
Cuz we gonna lay around the shanty, mama
And put a good buzz on

We gonna sit around the kitchen
Fix us somethin' good to eat
And make ourselves a little high
And make the whole day complete
Cuz we gonna lay around the shanty, mama
And put a good buzz on
Cuz we gonna lay around the shanty, mama
And put a good buzz on

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« Reply #126 on: August 14, 2007, 10:35:10 PM »
This is SMOKIN'.

Youth Pastor Tim, you are SUCH a cracker. :-*

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« Reply #127 on: August 14, 2007, 11:28:34 PM »
This is SMOKIN'.

Youth Pastor Tim, you are SUCH a cracker. :-*

MtD

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« Reply #128 on: August 14, 2007, 11:32:43 PM »
Thanks Ademas for the words, now it makes sense. I think folks forget or maybe not know the Queen wears 2 hearing aids so music that sounds loud such as Shanty just ends up sounding like noise.
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« Reply #129 on: August 14, 2007, 11:38:40 PM »
Hmpfh!  My genius is largely wasted on this crowd.



I've always felt that about Jim Varney, another southern genius. Ernest Goes to Camp an instant classic.

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« Reply #130 on: August 14, 2007, 11:45:50 PM »
OMG, I hated him.....
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« Reply #131 on: August 15, 2007, 09:35:47 AM »
I thought I would post this link about how the LAPD has been raiding medicinal weed clinics.....Thoughts anyone?


http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_6625071
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« Reply #132 on: August 15, 2007, 10:30:25 AM »
You would think that with "terrorism" and hard drugs the DEA would have better things to do than to try to keep useful medicine from sick people and nullify the laws of 12 states. There's obviously a lot of work to do before that happens.
We need to get out there, we have to fight for our rights...
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« Reply #133 on: August 15, 2007, 03:31:51 PM »

 


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