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Author Topic: Anti-retroviral?  (Read 2973 times)

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Offline HIV? poz about being neg

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Anti-retroviral?
« on: June 19, 2007, 12:09:48 AM »
Is anti-retroviral a cocktail or haart or can you just take an anti-retroviral on its own to lower the VL? My CD4 is doing good...so I'm just looking for information about the VL I have been told supplements do nothing for it so searching for other options to get the VL down with out having to go on damaging drugs
« Last Edit: June 19, 2007, 12:11:54 AM by HIV? poz about being neg »
Jan/25/07 VL > 100 000 CD4 480 21%
Apr/13/10     Started Atripla
May/11/10    VL !! 300 !!     CD4 520
Jul/15/10      VL    75          CD4 400   27%
Dec/20/10    VL UD             CD4 390 28%
Jan/10/12    VL UD              CD4 670 28%
Mar/31/14    VL UD              CD4 580 37%

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Anti-retroviral?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2007, 12:32:54 AM »
Poz,

Anti-retroviral drugs must be taken in particular combinations to be effective. This is usually three or more drugs. Taking one drug on it's own (monotherapy) or two (duotherapy) will lead to viral resistance. It's better not to take the drugs at all than to take them improperly.

MtD

Offline HIV? poz about being neg

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Re: Anti-retroviral?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2007, 02:14:50 AM »
Thank you thats what I thought as well but wasn't sure.
Jan/25/07 VL > 100 000 CD4 480 21%
Apr/13/10     Started Atripla
May/11/10    VL !! 300 !!     CD4 520
Jul/15/10      VL    75          CD4 400   27%
Dec/20/10    VL UD             CD4 390 28%
Jan/10/12    VL UD              CD4 670 28%
Mar/31/14    VL UD              CD4 580 37%

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Anti-retroviral?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2007, 05:01:13 AM »
Poz,

It's my pleasure. If you're considering starting HAART perhaps you might like to read our treatment lessons section if you haven't already.

MtD

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Re: Anti-retroviral?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2007, 08:20:08 AM »
I have been told supplements do nothing for it so searching for other options to get the VL down with out having to go on damaging drugs

Supplement don't "do nothing."  They can support a healthy immune system and protect and fortify the body against certain types of damage, and they can burn a big hole in your purse.  They cannot, however, kill HIV.

That being said, get the notion of "damaging drugs" out of your head.  Aspirin and acetominophen can be far more dangerous to anyone than newer HIV meds.  Sure, even the nicer ones can affect kidney and liver function over time, but that's why you make certain that your doctor orders certain labs on a regular basis!

Cheers,
David
"The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF Skinner
12-31-09   222wks VL  2430 CD4 690 (37%)
09-30-09   208wks VL  2050  CD4 925 (42%)
06-25-08   143wks VL  1359  CD4 668 (32%)  CD8 885
02-11-08   123wks off meds:  VL 1364 CD4 892(40%/0.99 ratio)
10-19-07   112wks off meds:   VL 292  CD4 857(37%/0.85 ratio)

One copy of delta-32 for f*****d up CCR5 receptors, and an HLA B44+ allele for "CD8-mediated immunity"... beteer than winning Powerball, almost!

Offline aztecan

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Re: Anti-retroviral?
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2007, 01:02:38 AM »
Hey Poz,

David makes a good point. Any drug can cause problems. Tylenol can cause as much liver damage as the ARVs.

Some supplements can help augment health, such as fish oil to help keep triglycerides in the blood down.

But they are no substitute for the meds.

HUGS,

Mark
"May your life preach more loudly than your lips."
~ William Ellery Channing (Unitarian Minister)

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Re: Anti-retroviral?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2007, 02:17:05 AM »
...so I'm just looking for information about the VL I have been told supplements do nothing for it so searching for other options to get the VL down with out having to go on damaging drugs


I can only tell you that those"damaging drugs" saved my life back in 2003. Without them, there is no doubt in my mind that I would be typing this message right now. Yes, the drugs have side effects, and yes, it can vary from one person to the next. I had very little problem with the meds. As the others have already stated, supplements are not a substitute for the antiretrovirals.

As far as the meds : ( Preferred regemins )

http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/WhenToStart_4759.shtml


Ray

Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



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 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of 6/4/14,  t-cells are at 423, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 13% 

  
 62 years young.

 


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