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Offline David_CA

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Re: Geek Out: Name Your Operating System
« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2007, 01:41:06 PM »
These things happen when Redmond is so screwed up that it takes 6 years to release a new version of their operating system.

I think part of the 'time delay' is that Windows OS's are run on many business / institutional pc's.  These systems are a huge source of revenue for MS.  Those of us that support them, here anyway, like our systems to be consistent.  When Windows XP was first released, all our new pc's had a "Designed for Windows 2000" sticker on them.  It wasn't until a year or so later that XP was supported here (where I work).  Most of our software is specific to a particular task (door access control, for example), and these vendors don't generally initially support the latest OS that hasn't had thorough testing with their product.  We still have certain software that runs best on Windows NT which was released in '96.  Good luck running ANY of our software on a Mac or on a Linux system.  Sure, servers are fine with Linux.  Servers are maintained by us 'geeks', not generally by end users.  Not only do I have to support our hardware, I have to support our users.  I want their systems to be as similar to any other system in this department as possible.  Whether one likes MS or not, Windows 2000 and XP are stable when installed and configured properly on decent, reliable systems.  I'm sure Vista will be eventually.  I know it has issues with at least three applications we use here at present.

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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Geek Out: Name Your Operating System
« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2007, 03:11:23 PM »
Vista was still spectacularly delayed by what?  At least two years from the official goal.  Plus they rip half their new features off of what Apple's already done, and that's always been the case... and the GUI still looks ugly.  They can't even copy things in a competent manner.
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Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Geek Out: Name Your Operating System
« Reply #52 on: June 28, 2007, 08:15:06 PM »
Plus they rip half their new features off of what Apple's already done, and that's always been the case... and the GUI still looks ugly.

Which was orginally stolen from Xerox by Apple . . . .

MtD
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Offline camille07

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Re: Geek Out: Name Your Operating System
« Reply #53 on: June 28, 2007, 08:55:24 PM »
For anyone interested on reading about the "truth" regarding the origins of the OS....this website, in my opinion, is pretty informative.  It's a good site for anyone looking to shine their techie shoes.
http://www.betanews.com

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Geek Out: Name Your Operating System
« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2007, 10:39:51 PM »
Plus they rip half their new features off of what Apple's already done, and that's always been the case... and the GUI still looks ugly.

Which was orginally stolen from Xerox by Apple . . . .

MtD
(Who notes that all operating systems are in one form or another descended from Unix)

Indeed, but I was referring to more recent versions of each operating system especially once OS X came out, which wasn't a new version at all but an entirely new system.  I apologize for my usual lack of clarity.
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Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Geek Out: Name Your Operating System
« Reply #55 on: June 29, 2007, 05:52:29 AM »
which wasn't a new version at all but an entirely new system.

What Apple got from Xerox was the GUI. Windows, icons, pull down menus etc. I don't use OS X, but I'll hazard a guess that those things are still present in this "entirely new system".

Indeed OS X is essentially powered by BSD technology which is an implementation of Unix that's been around for 25+ years. Not only that but elements of NeXTStep (the BSD/Mach Microkernel OS which was developed for Steve Jobs NeXT computers in the late 1980's) are incorporated into it as well.

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Re: Geek Out: Name Your Operating System
« Reply #56 on: June 29, 2007, 11:16:22 AM »
I'm well aware of this, but it still doesn't invalidate what I stated (accepting my clarification).   I used the word "new features" in my original post, but you insist on moving the goal posts.
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Offline Hard Times

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Re: Geek Out: Name Your Operating System
« Reply #57 on: June 29, 2007, 12:24:44 PM »
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Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Geek Out: Name Your Operating System
« Reply #58 on: June 30, 2007, 11:08:23 AM »
I'm well aware of this, but it still doesn't invalidate what I stated (accepting my clarification).   I used the word "new features" in my original post, but you insist on moving the goal posts.

Yes you did use "new features", but you also referred to OS X as an "entirely new system" which it isn't.

It's derivative. And being derivative is a particular talent of yours, isn't it?

MtD

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Re: Geek Out: Name Your Operating System
« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2007, 11:16:06 AM »
It was entirely new compared to OS9 and previous Mac systems -- you're simply taking things out of context to fit your own personal agenda dear.  And having an agenda is a particular talent of yours, isn't it?

And if posting in the 3rd person isn't banal and "derivative" in itself I don't know what is.  You're a walking cyber caricature.
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Offline StacheBC

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Re: Geek Out: Name Your Operating System
« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2007, 02:30:33 PM »
Matty,

The "Folding@Home" has nothing to do with HIV... That is the project that will come up with the best ways to fold items in your underware drawer.  ;D

Mauricio.
PS. Tried Fedora and maybe it's just my hardware combination or my lack of patience... but OpenSuse just worked for me.

 


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