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Author Topic: People suffering with HIV: THERE IS HOPE!  (Read 2860 times)

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Offline xtente

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People suffering with HIV: THERE IS HOPE!
« on: June 12, 2007, 10:18:28 AM »
December 1998 - I remember being in the hospital with a  fever. No one could figure out why i had a fever and so i checked into the hospital. Turns out, I was infected with HIV a month before. I suppose its good i found out i had it shortly after infection because my body was not too damaged from it.  I didnt actually start meds until 6 months later and have been on the same combo ever since (epivir Viramune and Zerit). BUT the thing is, i cycle my meds. 4 months on, 3 months off. And though I start feeling crappy about 6 weeks after i stop meds, its good for me to take a break and get all that toxicity out of my system.

During acute infection my viral load was 500,000 and my cd4's were 363. I will never forget those numbers as long as i live.

Since 1998  I am happy to say taht my cd4's have NEVER been UNDER 500 and the last bloodwork I got back was viral load of 53 and cd4 count of 793 at 31%. All this after 8 years of infection. AND, i must say, when i first found out i had it, i was reckless. I went and got a herpes infection because I was reckless. While i have MORE to deal with because of the herpes, I am STILL doign great, and my last number (noted above) were done while i had herpes.

back to 1998. When I was in the hosiptal bed i called my friend and said "I have aids" and he, being quite religious, started speaking in tongues and then told me "god told me to tell you you are healed." In that moment I stopped crying because those words reverberated through my soul. Ppl, remember, this virus is NOT beyond God. Dont give it more power than it has. Its jsut a virus that you are dealing with and if you align yourself to the right things, you will not lose. Here I am, 8 years later still with GREAT numbers, no resistance and looking better than ever. Remember YOU ARE HEALED.

I should also note that in addition to taking my meds, I take the holistic approach as well. Maitake Mushrooms (which you can get and any vitamin shop) has GREATLY increased my cd4s EVEN when I am not on meds. I also take/eat garlic, onions, lots of green tea and workout every other day.

Hope this helps

Xtente
« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 02:43:21 PM by xtente »

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Re: + since 1998 - There is hope ppl
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2007, 10:36:41 AM »
I should also note that in addition to taking my meds, I take the holistic approach as well. Maitake Mushrooms (which you can get and any vitamin shop) has GREATLY increased my cd4s EVEN when I am not on meds.


Glad you've gotten this far and haven't suffered ill effects from Zerit.  Still, don't give mushrooms any more power than they deserve.  You may well have a genetic defense against HIV that is keeping your immune system strong when off meds, while published studies on the mushrooms cite highly concetrated extracts from the shrooms used on mice, not humans.

"The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF Skinner
12-31-09   222wks VL  2430 CD4 690 (37%)
09-30-09   208wks VL  2050  CD4 925 (42%)
06-25-08   143wks VL  1359  CD4 668 (32%)  CD8 885
02-11-08   123wks off meds:  VL 1364 CD4 892(40%/0.99 ratio)
10-19-07   112wks off meds:   VL 292  CD4 857(37%/0.85 ratio)

One copy of delta-32 for f*****d up CCR5 receptors, and an HLA B44+ allele for "CD8-mediated immunity"... beteer than winning Powerball, almost!

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Re: + since 1998 - There is hope ppl
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2007, 10:44:53 AM »
Praise Jesus! All the very religious folks I talk to say it is because of God we sinners are afflicted with the aids. Another testimonial of his loving power to cure...and over the phone no less.

AD
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« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 10:48:10 AM by Dachshund »

Offline woodshere

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Re: + since 1998 - There is hope ppl
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2007, 11:10:00 AM »
Jeeezzzz Louise, I am not sure what to say.  As a man of faith I never dreamed to simply asked to be healed, I must do that today.  And maybe after a year of being diagnosed with a cd4 count of 179 and seeing my numbers rise a measly 100 I will see a dramatic jump.

I think the reason you are doing well is that your meds have worked, you have taken care of yourself, your genetic makeup might be able to fight HIV better than other people and a host of other things,perhaps even faith has attributed to it.   But to mostly attribute your great health to being healed by some person speaking in tongues over the phone only contributes to people thinking this:

Praise Jesus! All the very religious folks I talk to say it is because of God we sinners are afflicted with the aids. Another testimonial of his loving power to cure...and over the phone no less.
AD
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Offline xtente

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Re: + since 1998 - There is hope ppl
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2007, 02:38:15 PM »

Glad you've gotten this far and haven't suffered ill effects from Zerit.  Still, don't give mushrooms any more power than they deserve.  You may well have a genetic defense against HIV that is keeping your immune system strong when off meds, while published studies on the mushrooms cite highly concetrated extracts from the shrooms used on mice, not humans.


I can tell you from firsthand experience that the mushrooms worked. Even my doctor was like "wtf?!! You t-cells have jumped like crazy. what have you been taking?" So we tried off meds with no shrooms, on meds with shrooms and on meds with shoorms and on meds without shrooms. Each time, I was on maitake mushrooms at ANY time, I saw a 150 t-cell diference, that is my bloods came back 150 to 200 t-cells higher. And btw, i dont have that "immunity" you speak of when i am off meds. My vl shoots up to 100,00k (that is the baseline. it never goes higher than that, and i wouldnt know because I start meds when it reaches that point)

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God didnt give me aids daschund
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2007, 02:41:08 PM »
its called ACQUIRED immune deficiency syndrome. I put MYSELF in a position to get it, NOT God. I knew the risks, ignored them, and now I have to deal. If anything, God has PRESERVED me where so many other have checked out. Had I followed his word, I would have sought solace in HIM, not SEX and would not have this disease right now.

and woodshere, its was the fact that my friend spoke in tongues to me over the phone, it was that his MESSAGE reverberated in me and i KNEW it was true. I felt SOMETHING ELSE speakign to me at the same time. Something greater. anyway, the fact of the matter is I AM healed.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 02:42:55 PM by xtente »

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Re: God didnt give me aids daschund
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2007, 02:45:48 PM »
its called ACQUIRED immune deficiency syndrome. I put MYSELF in a position to get it, NOT God. I knew the risks, ignored them, and now I have to deal. If anything, God has PRESERVED me where so many other have checked out. Had I followed his word, I would have sought solace in HIM, not SEX and would not have this disease right now.

So you are saying that since you didn't find solace in God, then he punished you by infecting you with HIV.  Why is he punishing the women who have become innocently infected by their spouses?  Why is he punishing children who become infected due to it being passed on to them by their parent(s).?  Doesn't hold water for me.

and woodshere, its was the fact that my friend spoke in tongues to me over the phone, it was that his MESSAGE reverberated in me and i KNEW it was true. I felt SOMETHING ELSE speakign to me at the same time. Something greater. anyway, the fact of the matter is I AM healed.

So if you are healed then your body is completely void of HIV.  If this is the case, please tell your friend to call us all, he could charge a nominal fee and be as rich as Jim Baker was.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 02:50:12 PM by woodshere »
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Offline xtente

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Re: People suffering with HIV: THERE IS HOPE!
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2007, 02:50:07 PM »
i am saying that god basically says dont sleep around. In a moment of weakness I did. its the same thing parents tell their kids "dont sleep around, protect your bodies" etc etc. And, while you can say "wait about the babies" you can also say that god HAS spared some ppl like long term survivors and whatnot. free will means that man can fuck up ad infinitum and that includes passing hiv on to kids, women and the like. That is MAN'S doing NOT GOD. You need to ask why the MEN passing it on to their wives are PUNISHING them.

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Re: People suffering with HIV: THERE IS HOPE!
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2007, 02:52:33 PM »
i am saying that god basically says dont sleep around. In a moment of weakness I did. its the same thing parents tell their kids "dont sleep around, protect your bodies" etc etc. And, while you can say "wait about the babies" you can also say that god HAS spared some ppl like long term survivors and whatnot. free will means that man can fuck up ad infinitum and that includes passing hiv on to kids, women and the like. That is MAN'S doing NOT GOD. You need to ask why the MEN passing it on to their wives are PUNISHING them.


It's all true!  It's all true!  It's right there in the 10 Commandments:

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ass.

Exodus 20:17 -  Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 02:57:01 PM by thunter34 »
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Re: People suffering with HIV: THERE IS HOPE!
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2007, 02:55:09 PM »
Perhaps I am missing something, but post 5 & 7 appear to be quite opposite in context.  

To say you have been "healed" or whatever because of God is just not acceptable to me.  God doesn't pick and choose who suffers and who doesn't or at least my God doesn't.
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Re: People suffering with HIV: THERE IS HOPE!
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2007, 02:57:07 PM »
And please stop changing the title of this thread, this is the third one.

I have a question, is the hope you are speaking of being healed over the phone by someone speaking in tongues, your meds and the way you take them or mushrooms. I am so confused......  ??? ??????
« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 02:59:57 PM by woodshere »
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Re: People suffering with HIV: THERE IS HOPE!
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2007, 03:00:25 PM »
*sigh*
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2007, 03:05:21 PM »
its called ACQUIRED immune deficiency syndrome. I put MYSELF in a position to get it, NOT God. I knew the risks, ignored them, and now I have to deal. If anything, God has PRESERVED me where so many other have checked out. Had I followed his word, I would have sought solace in HIM, not SEX and would not have this disease right now.

and woodshere, its was the fact that my friend spoke in tongues to me over the phone, it was that his MESSAGE reverberated in me and i KNEW it was true. I felt SOMETHING ELSE speakign to me at the same time. Something greater. anyway, the fact of the matter is I AM healed.

I can't figure out if it is trolling or just crazy or maybe a little of both?

Offline xtente

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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2007, 03:09:46 PM »
ultimately i feel sorry for you. I am still going strong and you are bitter.

if someone came to me and said "KRISHNA HEALED ME AND MY NUMBERS ARE ASTOUNDING," regardless of what i believed i would say "that's great." You seek to malign and taunt. I dont entertain that.

Perhaps I would be bitter were i in your shoes. But luckily I am not and I continue to be healthy, happy, in a good marriage and have a great outlook on life. Be well. I hope your t-cells rebound.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 03:13:13 PM by xtente »

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Re: People suffering with HIV: THERE IS HOPE!
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2007, 03:10:50 PM »
huh?
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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2007, 03:12:48 PM »
ultimately i feel sorry for you. I am still going strong and you are bitter. Perhaps I would be were i in your shoes. Luckily I am healthy, happy, in a good marriage and have a great outlook on life. Be well. I hope your t-cells rebound.

 :)Not bitter at all.  I am just trying to point out that God doesn't determine whether someone survives HIV, Cancer or a car wreck.  And it pisses me off for anyone to say that He does.
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Re: People suffering with HIV: THERE IS HOPE!
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2007, 03:14:21 PM »
that's your belief and i disagree. In our lifetime we may never discover who is wrong or right. And so, I go back to my life, holding fast to my beliefs. Simple as that.

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Re: People suffering with HIV: THERE IS HOPE!
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2007, 03:14:51 PM »
OK, this one isn't going any further. I'm locking it.

I don't expect to see a reprisal or repeat thread either. Got it?

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