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Offline Pilot1988

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Input needed please
« on: May 27, 2016, 11:52:42 AM »
My boyfriend is HIV positive and I am HIV negative.  This past weekend, he was rubbing his erect penis back & forth in between my butt cheeks.  There was no anal penetration – just a type of grinding; is the best way I can describe it.  Shortly before he ejaculated in that area, I felt a slight burning sensation and this is the same area where his small pool of semen had collected.  When I wiped away the semen and lube, and then pressed the cleaning cloth on that irritated part of my skin, I noticed a very small amount of blood on the cloth.  Obviously I panicked and regret his non-use of a condom (lesson learned forever).  He had no open sores or signs of bleeding on his penis.  The blood came from the irritated part of my skin.  I have heard that HIV dies the moment it comes into contact with air – but what about while it’s still within the fresh semen outside the body?  How long does it survive?  So my real concerning question is this:  Is this scenario a possible source of HIV infection for me?  He is on Complera, in excellent health, has an “undetectable” viral status, and his HIV blood stats are very good – those of which are compared almost equally to that of a non-infected person.

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Re: Input needed please
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2016, 11:57:24 AM »
Hi ,
Rubbing is not risk for HIV...Period
The irritated skin your worried about makes no difference, if these are your only concerns it is safe to move on.

Best, Wade

To avoid infection,
You need to be using condoms for all anal and vaginal intercourse until you are in a trusting monogamous relationship and both have been tested for all STIs and HIV.
Everyone who is sexually active should have an annual exam and test for all STIs and HIV ,and always after unprotected intercourse. Always using condoms will give you peace of mind your tests will return with a negative result.
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Offline Pilot1988

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Re: Input needed please
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2016, 01:27:13 PM »
Hi Wade, Thank you for your reply and for your advice.  But just to mention again, there was blood there which indicates an open sore on me - kind of like a tiny fissure.  It has now completely healed but just to ask you again, you don't feel it's possible for his HIV (via his semen) to have entered my blood stream through the sore which was a tiny bit bloody?  His semen remained there for maybe half a minute.  Would the HIV have died the moment it hit the air? Again, he has an "undetectable" status, he is on Complera, he is very healthy, and his blood vitals are in-line with a negative person.  Thank you again and my apology if I'm asking for the same answer twice.

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Re: Input needed please
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2016, 01:43:48 PM »
Hi

I agree with Wade this was not a risk.

HIV does not survive outside the human body, once hiv finds itself exposed to air outside the body, small changes in temperature,  pH / moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

Jim.

Ill add a note as education on the UD part of your post. It has nothing to do with your risk assessment, you simply had no risk.

Have you considered PrEP? It would add a layer of protection/reassurance if you need it, you can see links in my signature regarding PrEP.  Also now I would always recommend safer sex including condoms, HIV is not the only STI that one can catch or transmit. 

Living with HIV and successfully getting treatment and reaching a continuous level of UD is in itself reassuring as this would fall under: Treatment-as-prevention (TasP) this is use of antiretroviral (ARV) medication to decrease the risk of HIV transmission. Treatment-as-Prevention (TasP) HIV TasP

This has been studied at length and to mention 1 of the studies as an example the "Partner" study is a major study looking at the chances of transmitting HIV with an undetectable viral load, there have been no transmissions between either gay or heterosexual serodiscordant partners.

Partner study
transmission-zero

Finally the The Swiss statement reads "An HIV-infected person on antiretroviral therapy with completely suppressed viraemia (“effective ART”) is not sexually infectious, i.e. cannot transmit HIV through sexual contact.”

Kind regards

Jim

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
Remember that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's.
So please do get fully tested regularly for all STI's including HIV and more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs. Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Finally use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently.

Kind regards

Jim

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Offline Pilot1988

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Re: Input needed please
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2016, 04:30:28 PM »
Hi Jim, once question comes to mind that perhaps you could provide a little clarification on.  I have read on a few (reputable) websites etc, that HIV can be spread through an open sore.  Since I had an open sore and you feel it is not a method of entry in my case, what do they mean by open sore transmission?  Would it mean blood to blood?  Just curious.  Thanks again.

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Re: Input needed please
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2016, 04:36:25 PM »
Hi

Again i don't comment on what others say but, sure if the open sore was inside the vagina or anus and you were having unprotected intercourse, it might/could increase the risk for HIV and/or STI transmission.

Jim

« Last Edit: May 27, 2016, 04:49:08 PM by JimDublin »
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Online JimDublin

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Re: Input needed please
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2016, 04:47:58 PM »
Ill add that HIV is a virus, a very fragile virus that requires specific conditions to survive and than it needs reach specific cell types to infect.

Risks as example are having unprotected sex (Intercourse without a condom), Sharing injecting equipment, Sharing needles, syringes. Mother-to-baby during pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding infants, and contaminated blood transfusions and organ/tissue transplants.

HIV does not survive outside the human body (such as on surfaces), and it cannot reproduce outside a human host. You can't get HIV from simply being scratched, coughing, or sneezing, HIV also isn’t transmitted by hugging, shaking hands, holding hand, sharing toilets, sharing dishes, kissing or through saliva, tears, or sweat.

Jim
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HIV TasP
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You can read more about PEP and PrEP here
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