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Offline Boater

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Question?
« on: May 15, 2007, 12:23:19 AM »
A stripper gave me a handjob while sucking on my nipple. I've no reason to believe her hand was bleeding, but I have no idea. Also, I noticed a few hours afterwards that my nipple-area had a few red spots looking like tiny scabs; I'm not sure what they were, but they weren't tooth marks and I'm worried.. If her attention to my nipple did break the skin in a few small spots, is there anyway that it is a risk?

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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2007, 12:45:56 AM »
Boater,

There is absolutely no risk of HIV transmission from getting a handjob or having your tit sucked. None whatsoever. You don't need to test for HIV as a result of these things.

What you should do is take the time to read through our Welcome Thread which contains links to our testing and transmission lessons so you can familiarise yourself with how HIV is and is not transmitted.

One other thing, all sexually active people should have a full STD screen at least once a year. Twice is better. A full screen will include an HIV antibody test. If it's been a while since your last full screen or if you've never had one before you might consider making an appointment with your local clinic or your doctor.

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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2007, 01:28:45 AM »
The thing is that I don't know for sure if there was blood in the woman's mouth during the whole nipple thing. I don't know whether or not my skin was pierced, but I also don't know why there would be what looks to be hair-folicle sized scabs right in that area. Even if every bad factor was in place, would it be a non-issue?

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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2007, 01:30:05 AM »
Boater,

It makes no difference whatsoever. I can assure you this is not an HIV situation. That's my expert opinion babe. You can take it to the bank.

MtD

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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2007, 02:18:50 AM »
Matty,

I'm not questioning your expertise, but I'm confused and I'd appreciate some advice. The thing is, 1) what if there was a cut on the woman's finger? It seems to me that this is a serious cause for concern even if it's a question mark and 2) what if those "nipple nibbles' did actually break my skin? how the heck do I know if there was blood on the gums etc?


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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2007, 04:56:47 AM »
Boater,

It's cool babe, Matty the Damned is happy to explain these things.

The thing is that HIV is transmitted in very specific ways. It's a fussy, delicate virus and over the 25 years of the pandemic we've learned that HIV is transmitted via:

  • Unprotected anal sex
  • Unprotected vaginal sex
  • Sharing contaminated injecting equipment such as needles and syringes
  • HIV positive mother to unborn child in certain circumstances

HIV needs to be transmitted inside the body, and cavities such as the anus/rectum and the upper reaches of the vagina (particularly around the cervix) provide such an environment. It's an enclosed space and the virus can find there the particular kinds of cells it needs to infect. These sorts of cells can also be found in the male urethra, which is how HIV is transmitted to males who have unprotected insertive anal or vaginal sex.

As for the mouth, well that's a totally different story. To viruses like HIV the mouth is a horrible, inhospitable place. Human saliva contains a number of substances that actually inhibit the virus, making transmission all but impossible even if your nipples were bleeding or had sores on them, or if there was blood in your sexual partner's mouth.

Cut fingers are not a concern either.

Given these things (and quite possibly others), there is no way that you've been placed at risk of HIV infection because of some funky tit-play.

Regards,

MtD

Offline Boater

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2007, 01:36:17 AM »
Is it correct that there has never been a case of transmission from a handjob? Zero?

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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2007, 01:43:51 AM »
There has never been a case of HIV transmission as a result of a handjob.

MtD

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Re: Question?
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2007, 07:59:49 AM »
Boater, you are worrying needlessly. Read our lesson about Transmission. There's a link to it in the Welcome thread which opens this section.

This epidemic is going to be around for a longtime to come. You need to be better informed on the real risks for transmission. That way you can protect your health, enjoy your sexuality and not worry unnecessarily as you are now doing.

This is not an HIV situation. Period.

Cheers,
Andy Velez

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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2007, 10:32:08 AM »
Boater, you are worrying needlessly. Read our lesson about Transmission. There's a link to it in the Welcome thread which opens this section.

This epidemic is going to be around for a longtime to come. You need to be better informed on the real risks for transmission. That way you can protect your health, enjoy your sexuality and not worry unnecessarily as you are now doing.

This is not an HIV situation. Period.

Cheers,

Is the report/lesson fit for all races?And what about handjob?
I am Asian.
Thanks.

Offline ACinKC

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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2007, 10:36:01 AM »
oledc you need to start your OWN thread if you have questions.  Please do that and we will answer you there.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

Offline Boater

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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2007, 11:45:11 PM »
Thanks for the input. I just would like to understand the difference between unprotected intercourse and a handjob given by a woman with a cut on her hand. I realize the "inside the body" part, but what about if there was a cut on the hand right around where it touched the tip of the penis?

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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2007, 07:30:39 AM »
Boater,

You say you understand the "inside the body" requirement for transmission to occur, but clearly you do not. Hiv is very fragile and it does not remain viable and able to infect a new host when it is outside the body.

In order for a cut on the hand giving you a handjob to be even a remote risk, the person would have to be deeply cut, actively and heavily bleeding, and you'd pretty much have to insert the head of your penis inside the cut and vigorously rub it around. You're hardly likely to do that and the other person is hardly likely to let you.

Cuts start to heal as soon as they happen. The skin is a fantastic organ that way. A cut on the hand giving you a handjob is absolutely, positively NOT a risk for hiv infection.

Ann
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Offline Boater

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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2007, 04:35:24 PM »
The tip of her finger was right around the tip of my penis, but I don't remember any direct contact or blood. So basically if there was the correct circumstances for transmission I would definitely know it right?

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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2007, 04:51:14 PM »
Boater,

I want you to read this very carefully.

You do not have HIV infection. No matter where the tip of her finger may have been, you do not have HIV. It's time for you to stop what-iffing and get on with your life.

Ya dig?

MtD

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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2007, 06:07:13 PM »
Boater,

I'm in complete agreement with Matty here. In NO WAY did you have a risk for hiv infection. Do not have unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse and you will continue to not put yourself at risk.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple, I promise you.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline alterman

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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2007, 07:34:58 AM »
I sure want to know who was that lady who gave you a hand job because from what you say she's good.
she can suck my nipple too, while giving me a hand job.

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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2007, 07:39:48 AM »
Hey Altermen,

Teasing the WW's, whilst fun, really doesn't help things.

MtD

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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2007, 07:54:56 AM »
Alterman,

I suggest you read through the Posting Guidelines for the Am I Infected forum before posting here again. Comments like the one you have made have no place here.

Ann

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline Boater

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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2007, 03:47:49 AM »
Do you think that a girl sucking on your nipples is so completely not a risk? I didn't feel or see bite marks, but I did see what would basically be a few red dot's in the area. They weren't in my mind, but I don't think they would have been caused by a bite either. What if they were though? Is that irrelevant? Thank you for your time (again).

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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2007, 04:53:52 AM »
Boater,

An hiv positive person could suck ANY part of your body, including your nipples, penis and anus, and it would NOT be a risk for hiv infection. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that inhibit and destroy hiv.

The red dots could have been from her sucking too hard. It's still NOT a risk. Not even if your skin was broken would it be a risk. NO RISK!

If you're worried about the red dots, see your doctor. Whatever is/was going on with the dots, it has nothing to do with hiv. Nothing!

Ann
 
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline Boater

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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2007, 10:47:26 PM »
Thanks. It's not the red dots themselves I am worried about but the fact that I noticed them right after this experience. They were basically right around hair follicles (and right after I shaved). I scratched them off when I noticed them and there was no blood because the skin seems to have healed under them, but I was concerned that they were created by the sucking business. It sounds HIV may only be transmitted by bite if the mouth is covered and blood and it deeply tears though right? I know this is probably redundant, but the people here have been very helpful and I think it has helped. Thank you.

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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2007, 10:56:01 PM »
It sounds HIV may only be transmitted by bite if the mouth is covered and blood and it deeply tears though right?

Le sigh.

No Boater, HIV is not transmitted by bite at all.

MtD

Offline Boater

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« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2007, 01:47:20 AM »
I really want to thank everyone for their help, I just want to drop one more question. I understand the handjob part, but I still am very concerned about the possibility that the woman broke my skin with her mouth. From what I was reading on the archives this is not uncommon at all and it is not a risk either because nobody has ever had to worry about that except with huge bites. Is that correct?

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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2007, 03:47:22 AM »
Boater,

If you'd read the answers you've already been given, you'd see you were already told it wouldn't make a difference if your skin had been broken. Don't you think you would have known at the time if you were sucked so hard that the skin broke? It would hurt like hell!

You didn't have a risk in this instance and the sooner you get over it, the better.

Make sure you always use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and have regular, routine sexual health care check ups and you'll be just fine.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2007, 02:29:05 AM »
Well, I think my hair follicles were vulnerable. The red spots were tiny scabs, when I scratched them off there was no bleeding, but I just can't get over it . There were definitely tiny scabs and they may well have been a result of that.

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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2007, 04:41:23 AM »
I don't have any idea what you'll be like if you have a real risk. If you can't get over it, seek the help of a mental health professional.

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« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2007, 05:54:48 AM »
Well, I think my hair follicles were vulnerable. The red spots were tiny scabs, when I scratched them off there was no bleeding, but I just can't get over it . There were definitely tiny scabs and they may well have been a result of that.

Well Boater you can think whatever you like. There's nothing we can do about that. As Roddles says, if you can't deal with your fears (which are completely unfounded) regarding HIV infection then you should seek the assistance of a mental health professional.

We're simply not able to provide you with that sort of support.

MtD

 


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