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different kissing question
« on: June 25, 2006, 10:51:05 AM »
I was recently with an adult film actress who does 'private shows' on the side.  I did not engage in vaginal sex with her, just received oral sex with a condom and fingered her a little bit with my left middle finger but can't remember if I used my left index finger as well.  The next day, I remembered that I had a blister on my left index finger a week earlier which broke, and there was tender skin there all week.  I covered the skin with a band-aid until it wasn't as sensitive.  Anyway, what's there the day of the fingering was 'pink' new looking skin but no longer sensative and was intact where the blister was.  Is this considered an open sore?  I didn't really insert my fingers into the girl's vagina, I just played on the outside with her clit...would this put me at risk for HIV had there been vaginal secretions present (I don't think there were)? 
Also, the girl denies being HIV positive as she gets checked very regularly.

Was I at any risk here? I thought I was playing it safe by not having sex and using a condom for blow job.  I'm really upset by this whole situation.  Thanks.

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Re: Unique Fingering Question
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2006, 11:07:38 AM »
king,

I hate to disappoint you, but your fingering situation is far from unique and it is also far from a risk for hiv infection. Fingering is not, never has been and never will be a risk for hiv infection, no matter what sort of spin you want to put on it and no matter how unique you think you are. Not one person in the 25-plus years of this pandemic has become infected through fingering and you will not be the first.

Please read through the Welcome Thread and follow the Lesson links found there. You should also read through the condom and lube links in my signature line. Condoms, correctly used, really do prevent hiv transmission.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

Ann
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Re: Unique Fingering Question
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2006, 11:10:31 AM »
Even with the recovering blister? I mean, technicaly there was a skin lesion there.

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Re: Unique Fingering Question
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2006, 11:19:06 AM »
Blisters, nicks, cuts, scrapes and whatever.

Like Ann. I will also burst your unique blister and tell you that you were not at risk for HIV transmission. In the history of the epidemic HIV has never been transmitted through this very common sexual activity with either pros or civilians. You aren't going to make history by becoming the first. No kidding.

Cheers, 
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Re: Unique Fingering Question
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2006, 09:30:26 AM »
I appreciate the fact that there have been no "documented" cases of HIV transmission via fingering.  I also realize that the risk is somewhat "theoretical in nature". However, who's not to say it hasn't happened before and has not been recorded or that it can't happen in the future.  on "thebody" they say it is a low risk, not no risk situaiton.  So, I'll likely get a baseline test this week since it has been well over 90 days from my last happenings and will either get PCR DNA tested in 3 more weeks or try and wait out the 90 days for another ELISA. 

I'm sorry, but "it's never happend before" is just not a scientific explanation of why this didn't or wouldn't occur.  In my opinion, the mechanism of infection is still there.

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Re: Unique Fingering Question
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2006, 09:34:13 AM »
You can think whatever you want and you can test if you want. There has never been a documented case of a fingering incident. You do what you think you must.

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Re: Unique Fingering Question
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2006, 10:15:27 AM »
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So, I'll likely get a baseline test this week since it has been well over 90 days from my last happenings and will either get PCR DNA tested in 3 more weeks or try and wait out the 90 days for another ELISA.

Kingrx,

As it has been "well over 90 days", you can get a conclusive result now for your no risk fingering. The hiv testing window period is 12-13 weeks, not six months.

Also, PCR tests are NOT approved for diagnostic purposes because they have a high rate of false positive results. Heaven help you if you get one of those. Don't waste your money on one and don't risk being freaked out by a false positive.

If you insist on testing over this no risk incident, test now, collect your negative result and move on with your life.

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different kissing question
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2007, 11:16:25 AM »
I know this may be disgusting, but lets say that i was with an escort who very shortly before me performed oral on another man and may or may not have remnants of this mans ejaculate fluid in her mouth.  Say i kissed her and i had open cuts/sores in my mouth/lip and bleeding gums.  Would I be at risk for HIV infection?  Also, what if I placed my penis in between her breasts after another man had ejaculated there...would that put me at risk if the tip of my penis came into contact with dried, non-visible semen?  The girl said that she cleans herself after every "client" but she is really flakey and I dont trust her. 
Girl is in the adult video biz and would assume she gets tested regularly but who knows?  Anyway, thinking about getting HIV DNA PCR test and was wondering the level of my exposure.  Thanks.

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2007, 12:06:26 PM »
king,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

None of the things you have brought here today are risks for hiv infection. Hiv transmission happens INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse or needle sharing.

Saliva has over a dozen different properties that render hiv incapable of latching on to cells and infecting them. Kissing isn't a risk, no matter what sort of spin you want to put on it.

The ejaculate between the breasts isn't an issue either, as hiv is very sensitive to environmental changes and quickly becomes too damaged to be able to infect when it is outside the human body.

You do NOT need PCR testing, or any other testing for that matter. However, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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NEW WEIRD QUESTION
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2007, 02:22:35 AM »
OK, so after a long break, I am back with an even dumber question.  A few days ago, again indulged in an evening with a porn actress.  She swears she is clean; was tested for HIV last week and was negative. Have seen her before and trust her...this is her living. Anyway, inserted a finger into her vagina and then about an hour-hour and a half later while driving home, and I know this is disgusting, i picked my nose with the finger that i inserted in the porn actress.  There was no bleeding, however, I am very concerned about this as I know the nasal lining is a mucous membrane (i think?).  Anyway, reallly worried and a little upset with myself.  Yeah, I thought I stopped doing this 2 years ago but that night, my OCD won over.  Now I feel guilty as I just had two recent negative HIV tests (one was for life insurance purposes) but now i feel i have to worry again. 
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.  Thanks!

King

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2007, 02:33:07 AM »
OK, so after a long break, I am back with an even dumber question.  A few days ago, again indulged in an evening with a porn actress.  She swears she is clean; was tested for HIV last week and was negative. Have seen her before and trust her...this is her living. Anyway, inserted a finger into her vagina and then about an hour-hour and a half later while driving home, and I know this is disgusting, i picked my nose with the finger that i inserted in the porn actress.  There was no bleeding, however, I am very concerned about this as I know the nasal lining is a mucous membrane (i think?).  Anyway, reallly worried and a little upset with myself.  Yeah, I thought I stopped doing this 2 years ago but that night, my OCD won over.  Now I feel guilty as I just had two recent negative HIV tests (one was for life insurance purposes) but now i feel i have to worry again.
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.  Thanks!


King,

Don't use terms like "clean" when referring to HIV status. I have HIV infection and, contrary to what you might think, I am very clean. Using such terms implies that we are in someway dirty. It's rude and insulting of you. Please be more sensitive in the future.

As for this latest fingering incident you report, no there is no risk of HIV transmission. Even if you did pick your nose afterwards. Please consider getting treatment for your OCD issues.

Yeeesh. ::)

MtD

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2007, 02:40:26 AM »
I apologize if I offended you.  I'm not used to talking in these forums...it's been a while.

Thanks for your response.

Stay well.


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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2007, 02:52:17 AM »
For the record, am getting treatment for OCD.  However, still concerned because nasal passage = mucous membranes.  Are you sure that there's no risk of infection this way?

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2007, 03:01:15 AM »
Yes, I'm sure.

MtD

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2007, 04:07:07 AM »
King,

Surely you've been coming to this website for long enough now to know what a fragile virus hiv is? When hiv is outside the body and in the environment, it quickly becomes damaged by minute changes in temperature, moisture and pH levels. When hiv becomes damaged, it CANNOT infect. Any hiv that may or may not have been on your finger would NOT have been viable by the time you shoved it up your nose.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

We are not equipped to deal with your OCD issues here. Please keep working with your therapist.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2007, 08:24:23 AM »
Thanks for the advice.  One more thing...say that there was still some under the fingernail.  I mean, would that sheild it from environment?  And, say I did shove my finger up my nose immediately after inserting it in her vagina...would THAT have put me at significant risk?  If so, I believe I'm still at risk.

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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2007, 08:42:16 AM »
King,

You were NOT at risk! Hiv simply is NOT transmitted in this manner.

If you cannot bring yourself to believe us, then go test and collect your negative result. Just don't expect to come here to wring your hands over your NO RISK incident.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: new question
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2007, 11:48:29 AM »
Why does this keep happenng to me?  I was at a local deli this morning. I ordered egg whites on a plain bagel.  The egg whites were on the grittle and right next to the grittle the woman was cutting my bagel when she sliced her finger.  She immediately walked over the the nearest sink to care for her wound.  The manager than came out, gave her first aid (cleanser/band aid), then grabbed a new bagel.  He took the bloody knife into the back room and came out with what he claimed was a new knife.  He then put the egg whites on a NEW BAGEL and cut the sandwich with what he claims was a new knife.  My fears are primarily that blood dripped into the eggs when the woman turned around.  Although this all happened right in front of me, I don't recall if that happened or not.  I did not see blood on the bagel or the egg whites.  My initial reaction was not to eat the sandwich, however, i did not want to insult the people in the deli and ask for a new one.  I decided not to eat it for like an hour and a half when finally I became so hungry I re-heated it and ate it.  MY question is what is the chance that I could have contracted HIV and or Hepatitis from this incident.  I'm freaking out...even Xanax is not helping.  I should have just thrown the sandwhich away but i was extremely hungry and couldn't function with out food at work. Should I get PCR-DNA test in 28 days?  thanks. 

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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2007, 12:41:10 PM »
King,

Hiv positive blood in food is NOT a risk for hiv infection.

Hiv is not lurking in the environment, waiting to get you. Your fears are a matter for you to take up with a qualified therapist.

If you've read the Welcome Thread like you're supposed to, you will have read this posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Please consider yourself warned. We cannot help you with your hiv anxiety issues here.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2007, 01:46:14 PM »
I apologize.  I was not aware that there was science supporting the ingestion of food thing.  I could not find any on the internet, that is why I posted here.  Called CDC: they just read me facts and really couldn't answer my question.  I will test in 3 months and will let you know the outcome, but to be honest I'm not as confident as you are.

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2007, 01:49:47 PM »
Oh, and I wasn't aware that my risk was a no-risk situation so I feel that the warning is a little unfair. However, I wish to abide by the rules of the forum. I thank you for your time and comments.

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2007, 03:13:01 PM »
You're not as "confident" as we are? Based on what? Scary thoughts your mind is coming up with? Because there is absolutely no basis whatsoever in HIV science for you to be concerned about transmission from food. NONE. ZERO. ZILCH.

This is not an HIV situation. No testing is required. But looking over your ongoing concerns about HIV I'd recommend that you talk with a professional about your HIV concerns. They are about feelings and not HIV facts. 
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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2007, 09:05:15 PM »
Thank you all for your advice. I ACCEPT that I was not at risk from this past incident and I will do my best to keep my OCD in check from now on.  I am currently in therapy and doing my best to stop these urges.

Thanks again!

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2007, 09:41:49 PM »
One more quick question.  Does anybody know what this site is classified as?  I mean is it health, adult, porn, etc.??  I'm asking because I'd like to know if it is going to get me in trouble at work.  Thanks for the advice!

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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2007, 09:59:51 PM »
We're an online community of HIV positive people. We've been around in one form or another since the Year 2000. In fact we're the most respected HIV/AIDS site on the internet. If you want to know more try clicking here.

I don't know if you'll get into trouble for accessing this site from your workplace and frankly I don't care. That's your problem, kiddo. How would your boss like knowing this about you:

OK, so after a long break, I am back with an even dumber question.  A few days ago, again indulged in an evening with a porn actress.  She swears she is clean; was tested for HIV last week and was negative. Have seen her before and trust her...this is her living. Anyway, inserted a finger into her vagina and then about an hour-hour and a half later while driving home, and I know this is disgusting, i picked my nose with the finger that i inserted in the porn actress.  There was no bleeding, however, I am very concerned about this as I know the nasal lining is a mucous membrane (i think?).  Anyway, reallly worried and a little upset with myself.  Yeah, I thought I stopped doing this 2 years ago but that night, my OCD won over.  Now I feel guilty as I just had two recent negative HIV tests (one was for life insurance purposes) but now i feel i have to worry again.
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.  Thanks!

King


I think it would look great on your performance review.

 ::)

MtD

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2007, 10:06:55 PM »
True....but how are they going to know who is who?  I'm simply just reading a thread or a blog.  I'm not announcing my name, giving clues as to who I am, etc.  I feel this was a legit question that's being taken lightly. I'd like to think that this is a health care site, however, there is a lot of crude language being used which worries me.  Such language is not often used on The Body.  Not saying they are better, they are not, however, that site seems a tad more professional in how things are articulated.

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2007, 10:07:57 PM »
And the post you cited above was regarding a friend...not me.

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2007, 08:43:58 AM »
King,

This is a health care site.

As hiv has a lot to do with sex, of course there is going to be some language some may consider to be crude. Others consider it to be just plain language. If plain speaking bothers you, then maybe you should stick with The Body. While you may think they use more professional language, at least we stick to the scientific facts here, something that doesn't always happen in the forums over there.

As far as this site getting you into trouble at work, that depends on if you get caught obsessing over hiv when you're supposed to be working or not. If you're worried about it, maybe you should stay off this site when you're supposed to be working.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2007, 08:42:11 AM »
I'm sorry, my comments about the site were inaccurate. The posters use sexual slang on all forums, not just this one.  That being said, I have a new concern.  I have a friend who is a heroin addict.  I recently found out that she sometimes shoots up in my bathroom when she comes over. She's VOLUNTARILY told me several times in the past that she does not share needles, is NOT HIV positive and is more concerned about Hep C.  I tend to trust her as we are close but who knows...maybe she doesn't even know.

I got to thinking, however, that what if she left a needle laying around my bathroom.  I asked her if she cleaned up after herself and she says she always does, however, needles are small and thin and could go unseen.  So my concern is that maybe I stepped on a needle or sat on one that she left laying around but just didn't know it and it's too late to try and get PEP.  Would I know if i was stuck with an HIV infected syringe, even a small one? Would I bleed or feel pain??

Before you tell me to go seek therapy, my therpaist even said that this was a legitmate concern (more legitimate than my other irrational fears) so please don't laugh me off the forum and tell me to seek help. I already am.  And yes, I encouraged her to try to shoot up before she comes over from now on.  But I'm thinking of getting another HIV test in December (even though had one in June as hadn't had one since March '05 and had a second in September for life insurance application).  But those tests were before the nose pick, protected sex with porn star and possible needle exposure.

Your advice on the needle exposure would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2007, 11:02:30 AM »
Don't tell me you've never went to the doctor and received a shot. Did it hurt? Did you know it? You would know if you stepped on a needle. You don't need to test because you picked your nose or someone else picked your nose for you. Read the lessons on transmission. The link can be found in the "Welcome" thread.

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Possible Dried Blood Under Fingernails
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2008, 09:22:46 AM »
OK, so less than an hour ago, a man of what appeared to be Mexican/South American decent came to deliver a new couch. He was in my living room for about 5-10 minutes.  When he left, I noticed a small bright red spot on my beige carpet.  Thinking it was a fresh stain of some sort, I went and got some Febreeze and a wash cloth and began to try to remove the stain.  No such luck.  It appears that it was stuck to the threads of the carpet already.  I then touched the stain with my bare fingers to try to make it out what it was. Was it gum? Paint?? Then the scarey thought hit me that this was the delivery guys blood, and I was touching it without gloves!! Even worse, some of whatever this is had gotten under a couple of my fingernails (which are extremely short since I bite them) since I was trying to pick it up off the carpet.

In any event, I ran to the bathroom and started to vigorously wash my hands and under my fingernails.   But I now realize the damage is done.  Whatever it was, it was under my fingernails and therefore in my skin and in my bloodstream.  So I ask the following.

1. Would blood appear to be "bright red" on a beige carpet.

2. If it were blood, would it have dried and became sticky that quick (10 minutes or less?).

3. Should I call the delivery guy and see if he was bleeding? The guy used my cell phone and I didn't notice any blood on anything else, but still, he could have picked it up off the street.  Also, should I get a sample of what's left on the carpet and take it to a lab to see if it is HIV infected blood?

Just to be safe, I'm considering going to the ER to get post exposure prophylactics.  What do you think my chances are of successfuly erradicating the virus?  Does PEP ususally work?

I just moved to a new place and ready to start over and upset with the possibility that I am HIV infected.  Ono top of that, I just recently had a negative HIV test and now I have to deal with the anxiety of waiting another 3 months before I could rule out this possible exposure?

Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated.
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« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2008, 09:30:54 AM »
OK, so less than an hour ago, a man of what appeared to be Mexican/South American decent came to deliver a new couch. He was in my living room for about 5-10 minutes.  When he left, I noticed a small bright red spot on my beige carpet.  Thinking it was a fresh stain of some sort, I went and got some Febreeze and a wash cloth and began to try to remove the stain.  No such luck.  It appears that it was stuck to the threads of the carpet already.  I then touched the stain with my bare fingers to try to make it out what it was. Was it gum? Paint?? Then the scarey thought hit me that this was the delivery guys blood, and I was touching it without gloves!! Even worse, some of whatever this is had gotten under a couple of my fingernails (which are extremely short since I bite them) since I was trying to pick it up off the carpet.


This is racist drivel and it's beyond ridiculous.

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« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2008, 09:36:24 AM »
Why is this racist?  I don't care what nationality the man was.  The blood on the carpet and under my fingernails is the main point of concern. This is a real post for a real possible exposure and I don't appreciate the accusation brought forth.

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« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2008, 09:38:53 AM »
If you didn't care about this fellow's ethnicity, you wouldn't have mentioned it.

This matter is now in the Lap of the Goderators. Let's see what they make of it.

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2008, 09:47:05 AM »
King,

You've been coming here for long enough to know that this spot on the carpet is of no hiv risk to you or anyone. You certainly do NOT need PEP. You don't need testing either.

And by the way, we don't tolerate racism here. You'd be wise to remember that.

You have already been told that this forum is not the appropriate place for you to work out your hiv anxieties. We cannot help you here. Post one more time over this incident and you will be given a time out.

I suggest you seek counseling.

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2008, 09:49:36 AM »
Ok, I apologize for any indication of racism. And I couldn't find any information about dried blood on here so that is why I asked.
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« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2008, 09:55:21 AM »

You have already been told that this forum is not the appropriate place for you to work out your hiv anxieties. We cannot help you here. Post one more time over this incident and you will be given a time out.

I suggest you seek counseling.

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What part of my above post did you not understand? You didn't have a risk, Febreeze or no Febreeze.

I'm giving you that time out I warned you about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permenently banned.

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2008, 08:57:24 AM »
Ok, I have a question about going down on a female.  I know it is talked about on this forum as no risk.  I've read the "lessons" part which was short, but said that there have been documented cases of female to male/female transmission through cunnilingus.  So I am slightly confused as to why it is not considered a risk.  I did a "search" in the forums but swear couldn't find any other info.

Please help clarify this for me.  I had an exposure of eating a girl out about a week ago (mostly just licked her clit).  I know her and we are friends but I know she sleeps around a little so I am concerned.  She claims that she has no diseases but I didn't ask when the last time she tested was. 

So, my question is should I get tested from this one incident? if not, what is the science as to why not??  Thanks for your time.

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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2008, 09:35:55 AM »
No, that was not a risk. Even IF she is HIV+, the area where the fluids would be containing HIV is around the cervix, far up in the vaginal cavity. And even IF you have an impressively long tongue, your saliva contains proteins and other elements which are very effective in preventing HIV from being trasmitted successfully. There's never been a documented case of transmission in this manner. It's safe to say you won't make history by becoming the first. 
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Re: different kissing question
« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2008, 09:39:39 AM »
kingrx,

The Transmission Lesson says there have been case reports, not documented cases. This means there have been cases where a person CLAIMED to have been infected this way, but there has never been a case that has been PROVEN. Documented case means proven case.

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