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Offline terran

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delayed seroconversion?
« on: April 24, 2007, 10:26:01 PM »
Hi everybody.

A couple weeks after a regretted incident I developed a splotchy rash. Didn't think much of it, then I started losing weight. I was at 240, now at 210. I am also experiencing what seems to be thrush. It gets kinda heavy, then I brush for like 30 min and mouthwash. And it will return in a couple days. I have also been getting staph boils, and styes. Which could be a sign of a weakened immune system. Though I tested negative at the 6 month mark.
Question is, how many people test neg at 6 months, and then positive in say 1 year?
I have also been getting a bumpy rash on my left arm. I'm a bit confused.


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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2007, 11:02:35 PM »
And my lymph nodes have been getting sore in my neck. Sometimes my right one will be sore for a day or two, then my left and vice versa.

Question is to the positive members, how long did it take you to turn positive? Did you know that something was going on?






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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2007, 05:21:07 AM »
terran,

The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six WEEKS. The three month window period exists merely to catch the rare person who takes slightly longer than six WEEKS to produce enough antibodies to test positive.

You tested negative far outside the window period and this means you are without doubt hiv negative.

See your doctor about what's troubling you physically. Other than knowing it has nothing to do with hiv, we cannot help you further. You need to see your doctor to get to the bottom of what is going on.

You are conclusively hiv negative.

Ann
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Offline terran

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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2007, 09:00:03 PM »
Ok, these white patches don't go away on the inside of my cheeks. I have recently developed small pimples on my nose. Maybe a staph infection. And my vision has recently been getting blurry, I have to blink my eyes a bunch to kinda correct the problem.

So, if my symptoms were related, would the antibody test picked it up with a symptomatic individual nearly 7 months exposure? I tested neg with a antibody and nat on the 18th. Which was 6 months 18 days. Wouldn't it of caught it by then, or is hiv a slow process that takes much more time before it can be detected with modern testing protocalls?

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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2007, 09:18:32 PM »
Terran,

You are not HIV positive. End of story. You tested negative at 6 months which is more than sufficient to satisfy the window period requirement.

You are not a delayed seroconverter. If you were you wouldn't be sitting around asking questions on Teh Interwebs about AIDS, you'd be very ill in a hospital somewhere. Only a tiny proportion of people with very specific conditions don't show antibodies beyond the 13 week mark and I can assure you that you ain't one of them.

As for your symptoms, well you've already received the good oil about that from Ann. We cannot help you with your non-HIV related problems. You need to see your doctor about those.

MtD

Offline terran

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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2007, 09:54:40 PM »
So, what you're saying in a nutshell, is that an infected individual is usually in the hospital by the 7 month mark? I really understand what your sayin man. But just TRY to hear me out. Please.
So, yall that have allready tested positive, did you just know what was goin on when you took the test?
I just don't understand where the data came from as far as the 6 month rule. Seems kinda early to me. I was always told that god has a funny sence of humor. But I really can't seem to move on with myself as I see this stuff goin on with my body.
What really gets me, is I asked the woman that I was with if she had it, and told her my symptoms. She said "I hope its not too painful for you"
So try to hear me out. I really don't have anybody to talk to with these issues.

My question is for yall that had a positive test. What led you to be tested in the first place? Did you start experiencing things that have never happened to you?

I don't want to blow up the forums. But this is a bit devastating for me.

And doesn't current treatment allow for people to live a normal lifespan. Even with all the late breaking drugs?

I know I need to visit a doc, but try to hear me out. 6 months just seems early.

Ill pray to the good lord to look after everyone on aidsmeds.com

Say a prayer for me too if you would.

Love yall.


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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2007, 10:12:38 PM »
So, what you're saying in a nutshell, is that an infected individual is usually in the hospital by the 7 month mark? I really understand what your sayin man. But just TRY to hear me out. Please.

No, what I'm saying is:

You are not HIV positive.

You read that, right?

My question is for yall that had a positive test. What led you to be tested in the first place? Did you start experiencing things that have never happened to you?

Matty the Damned does not normally discuss his stuff with Worried Wells but it seems appropriate here.

I reported risky sexual behaviour to my GP. In particular, lots of unprotected insertive and receptive anal sex. As a matter of course she had me tested for HIV antibodies. The test came back positive.

I had no symptoms of anything. I didn't feel ill.

I engaged in risky sexual behaviours over a long period and contracted HIV.

It's that simple.

MtD

Offline terran

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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2007, 10:23:06 PM »
So, this is my last post.
What I want to know, is of the thousands of folks that post with their concerns. How mant of them do you consider might be harboring the virus from the things they tell you are happening to them?
Have you ever told someone that they should consider testing in another 6 months just to be sure?
Where did this 6 month information come from?
If a person tested negative at 6 months, but experienced everything associated with it, that we've learned about in the last 25 years.. Should that person be convinced that they have nothing to worry about?

Confused, confused..

Take it one day at a time, and don't stop loving yourself. That's what I tell myself, and it seems to be working, if it turns out that I really am positive. Fuck it, it is what it is.

The sun will still set, and the moon will still orbit with me here or not. Enjoy the experience.

Take it easy yall.

Ill write in 3 months.

Much love.

Offline RapidRod

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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2007, 10:50:31 PM »
The CDC's old guideline was testing out to 6 months for a conclusive test and in 2001 it was changed to 3 months except for the rare cases of people that are on illegal IV drugs, people on chemo, persons on antirejection drugs for transplants and persons with a severe depleted immune system.

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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2007, 06:27:28 AM »
Terran,

The six month window period is a left-over from the early days of the pandemic when we didn't know much about the virus. Hiv has been with us for over twenty-five years and we know a lot more about it now.

One of the things we now know is that the VAST majority of people will seroconvert and test positive by six WEEKS. Not months, WEEKS. The window period now stands at three months to catch the rare person who take a little longer than six WEEKS to test positive.

You are hiv negative, without doubt. See your doctor about your symptoms - you have ruled hiv out as a possible cause. There are other illnesses out there, so get to the doctor.

Ann
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Offline terran

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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2007, 10:32:53 PM »
Alright yall. The past couple weeks my neck nodes have been hurtin.
So, if it turns out I do become positive. Then a person just has to buckle down and say fuck it. There's people still alive and well from the 80's, probably healthier than a lot of negatives. Just been doin a lot of thinking, as it has really impacted my life.
We have the capabilities to provide a reasonably normal lifespan for hiv positive people, so who's to say one can't outlive the other? This has really been a reality check. I have allready quit smoking, and plan to start eating better.
I use to think about and be scared of hiv all day everyday, when I would see the white spots in mu mouth, then noticed staphyollocus on my hair follicles. But now I just say fuck it, smile and try to forget about it. If I do turn positive in the future, I sure as hell won't beat it with a bad attitude.

So, everybody. Its nice to have someone to talk to about this. I can't share it with anyone else.

Hiv or not, you gotta be happy and love yourself.

Remember everybody. Fuck it!!!
We have the capabilities to treat it, and live a normal lifespan.

Have a good attitude and love yourself.

Had to vent, I feel better now.

Much love.

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2007, 10:36:00 PM »
We have the capabilities to treat it, and live a normal lifespan.

Terran,

You leap way ahead of yourself, my son. You're not going to test positive. You don't have HIV. Your nodes are swollen because you keep prodding them. Prodded nodes swell.

Stop prodding your nodes and get on with your life.

MtD

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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2007, 10:43:11 PM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: delayed seroconversion?
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2007, 10:45:06 PM »
Terran,

If you know what's good for you, you'll read carefully that last post by Roddles.

MtD

 


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