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Offline woodshere

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #100 on: April 20, 2007, 03:47:17 PM »
The 33 people (I am including the shooter since his death came as a gun shot suicide) killed at VaTech this week are less than 1% of the number of Americans that will be killed due to gun violence this year.  Obviously what we are doing now is not working.  The answer is definitely not to allow guns easier to get.  I fail to see how allowing more Americans the opportunity to carry a concealed weapon will reduce the number of deaths.   Strengthen the penalties associated with weapons possession, enforce the laws more diligently and ban any type of automatic or semiautomatic firearm. And while we are at it why don't all those churches worried about whether people of the same sex can marry concentrate on something that really hurts society - gun violence!!!

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #101 on: April 20, 2007, 03:47:53 PM »
I don't think banning guns would help. More control, yes. But it's a society towards this violence and "kill first discuss later" attitude that is to be changed, and that, I think is possible. Education, network, communication, help, are tools that can make it work.

Oh and only 1 TV channel showing a fish tank so people go out and socialize instead of watching Kill Bill 2.

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #102 on: April 20, 2007, 03:49:34 PM »
guns or no guns....violent people are violent people ...its not going to help much with the crime rate or murder rates...if someone comes home to their wife screwing another guy....instead of shooting the person he will just stab him or beat him to death....Violence is already part of the society and it is what certain people know and act. You cant change that by taking away guns.....the violence neccesary to "kill" comes from within and has nothing to do with guns...

and there will still be masacres because if guns are "banned" then the only people searching for guns in the underground market will be killers, robbers, and the occasional "i dont care its illegal but i want to protect myself" person ...

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #103 on: April 20, 2007, 04:03:53 PM »
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people who live down there are SICK

What did you mean by that statement egello? I own guns and have, since I was 13. I'm a member of the NRA and I'm not sick nor have I have shot anyone. Just don't try to carjack me or break into my home.

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #104 on: April 20, 2007, 04:09:14 PM »
 sorry, i apologize, i was just furious.

so I am suppose to go on my life, as an American citizen, trusting that supposedly sane people like you, won't someday loose it, and take a gun outta wherever you keep it, and go on a rampage in a shopping center or schools,,,. I am suppose to depend my life on somebody else,,, and you know,, insanity is an easy line to cross over into.
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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #105 on: April 20, 2007, 04:11:21 PM »
milker and puertorico, I agree with what you both said.  However, there is absolutely no reason for anyone to have any type of automactic weapon so why even have them available?
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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #106 on: April 20, 2007, 04:11:34 PM »

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #107 on: April 20, 2007, 04:12:26 PM »
So when a lunatic like this guy at VT comes at me I can take him out.

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #108 on: April 20, 2007, 04:13:17 PM »
i agree with maybe making gun controls stronger....

an insane person is going to go insane like that legal or not.....the person did not just walk into a store, buy a gun and go nuts....he had it planned out....

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #109 on: April 20, 2007, 04:14:45 PM »
milker and puertorico, I agree with what you both said.  However, there is absolutely no reason for anyone to have any type of automactic weapon so why even have them available?

i dont know why they have them available honestly....but as i said ...legal or not anything is obtainable if you look for it....

....on a side note....lets say someone buys something "underground" and then kills someone and flees and nobody survived to identify this person.....having bought the gun "legally" helps identify the shooter.....if you are forced to buy underground how would they know it was your gun???
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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #110 on: April 20, 2007, 04:19:30 PM »
There is a big difference between a semi automatic and a fully automatic. Do you think gun toting criminals are going to give a rats ass about laws? The only thing you are going to accomplish by more gun controls are with the law abiding gun owners not the criminals.
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« Reply #111 on: April 20, 2007, 04:21:03 PM »
agreed  ;D

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« Reply #112 on: April 20, 2007, 04:36:32 PM »
And now a shooting at NASA.. I'm glad I work @ home..
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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #113 on: April 20, 2007, 06:42:27 PM »
Weak is baiting someone to get your rocks off.....
Hope you got off.............Philly
Now....
Perhaps you'd like to enlightened this ole Alabama boy
about gun control and dazzle me with your statistics.
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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #114 on: April 20, 2007, 06:54:18 PM »
milker and puertorico, I agree with what you both said.  However, there is absolutely no reason for anyone to have any type of automactic weapon so why even have them available?

I agree, this is part of gun control. But most gun owners will say "if a burglar can get an AK47, then I want the right to own one too". Can't beat the argument if viewed that way.

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #115 on: April 20, 2007, 09:00:16 PM »
dazzle me with your statistics.

knock yourself out

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« Reply #116 on: April 20, 2007, 09:01:43 PM »
Philly can you repost as an attachment maybe, it's impossible to read  :-\

Or a link?

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #117 on: April 20, 2007, 09:09:17 PM »
Philly can you repost as an attachment maybe, it's impossible to read  :-\

Or a link?

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« Reply #119 on: April 20, 2007, 09:52:59 PM »
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=206&issue=007

Statistics can be found to help both sides. Just sayin.

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« Reply #120 on: April 20, 2007, 09:55:26 PM »
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=206&issue=007

Statistics can be found to help both sides. Just sayin.

And this is where, as an informed individual, you make your own choices. I wish everyone would read both sides and think, but many don't.

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« Reply #121 on: April 20, 2007, 10:11:19 PM »
did u guys hear bush talking about making a list of people who might be threat/danger to the society????

randy on air America suggest making every gun purchaser get an insurance with every gun they own.
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« Reply #122 on: April 20, 2007, 10:15:11 PM »
I"m already fingerprinted by the FBI, background checked, etc etc, because of my resident alien status, and on top of that state (and I imagine fed) knows i'm HIV+.

So I fall into this "dangerous" category.

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #123 on: April 20, 2007, 10:23:40 PM »
did u guys hear bush talking about making a list of people who might be threat/danger to the society????


this list would be incomplete....and many people who arent a danger to society will be put on this list...what a supid idea....it will just make people discriminate and fuel psychos to hate society.......it will affect people in jobs and other aspects of life and it may not be warranted....

its like making someone guilty before being proven innocent
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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #124 on: April 20, 2007, 10:38:57 PM »
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=206&issue=007

Statistics can be found to help both sides. Just sayin.

that still doesn't address comparable situations in other countries
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« Reply #125 on: April 21, 2007, 02:01:18 AM »
.. I don't think you can understand unless you actually live there for some time.

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« Reply #126 on: April 21, 2007, 09:02:30 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori

don't tell me this was just an accident!

so Benj,,, whatever happened to the guy who knocked out your door?

if not the gun law,,, what is making United States the most violent nation on the planet?
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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #127 on: April 21, 2007, 10:20:46 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori

don't tell me this was just an accident!

so Benj,,, whatever happened to the guy who knocked out your door?

if not the gun law,,, what is making United States the most violent nation on the planet?

People that try to take rights of others away.

People that keeps harping over and over on dead issues.

I suppose you want cars taken from people too? Cars kill how many people in the US each year? A hell of a lot more than guns do.  ( 42,636 people died in car crashes in the U.S. in 2005)

How about stabbings? Do you want the government to collect all the knives?

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« Reply #128 on: April 21, 2007, 12:43:41 PM »
*sigh*

That still doesn't answer the question about why our gun murder rate is so much higher than countries with tighter gun control.

And your having to resort to that old hobby horse argument about cars is hilarious and disingenuous.
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« Reply #129 on: April 21, 2007, 01:03:32 PM »
yeap, yeap,

there really is no case for gun right people except that they want to own it, and will spend their money to fight to own it, where as people against guns have nothing to gain materially but just have strong opinions, so have less economical and political muscle power.

so, someone tell me why i should sacrifice my sense of safety so that few irrational people can have their fucked up sense of safety to rationalize their barbaric fear that can endanger others' lives while doing so?

what our government is doing in these wars, which are driven by their sense of fear that someone might take us down, is the same disgustingly simple and archaic convoluted rationalization; the core of which is really driven by their desire to make money at the cost of these barbaric murders.

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« Reply #130 on: April 21, 2007, 01:31:09 PM »
Oh it would bother you to have your car taken away? But it wouldn't bother you about guns because you don't own any? Same difference guys. You wouldn't like it.   

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #131 on: April 21, 2007, 01:41:41 PM »
I don't own a car, little buckeroo.

At any rate, it's harder to get a car license in Virginia than a gun at a gun show, where there is no background check, etc. due to loop holes.

Still an irrelevant line of argument.  Red herring fallacy, exit left please.
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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #132 on: April 21, 2007, 01:45:56 PM »
Oh it would bother you to have your car taken away? But it wouldn't bother you about guns because you don't own any? Same difference guys. You wouldn't like it.   

owning cars does not equal owning guns,,,, is gun part of your everyday life? a necessity? for god's sake, its a killing weapon

i am sure any rational mind will understand how false this comparison is.
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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #133 on: April 21, 2007, 02:30:59 PM »
Try telling that to the man that was ran over by his wife in their Mercedes 10 times. Tell that to the people that have lost someone from a drunk driver. Don't tell me their is no comparison. Being able to have a gun is a protected right. Having a car and being able to drive it is a privilege.

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #134 on: April 21, 2007, 02:52:28 PM »
Gun control doesn't generally mean "no guns" -- you DO realize this don't you Ron?
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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #135 on: April 22, 2007, 07:07:52 AM »

At any rate, it's harder to get a car license in Virginia than a gun at a gun show, where there is no background check, etc. due to loop holes.


That is something which has always mystified me. To be able to own and drive a car, you have to study, practice and pass both a written and practical exam. To own and use a gun, all you have to do is buy it. And then of course there's the issue of insurance...

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #136 on: April 22, 2007, 11:27:27 AM »
And then of course there's the issue of insurance...
Well here is an idea.. get mandatory insurance before you can get the gun. Doesn't have to be expensive and could be insurance issued by the govt so it's not in private hands, but that would be another background check. If the govt had to pay insurance to all those families that lost people due to inappropriate use of a gun, I'm sure the background checks would be a lot more effective..

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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #137 on: April 22, 2007, 02:38:12 PM »
Well if we take the guns away from the law abiding citizens ....then only the criminal element will have them and I don't know about you
but that doesn't seem like a good idea to me.  But that's my opinion.
I do agree that assault rifles and other automatic weapons should be banned...
but even if they were outlawed....the criminal element would still have theirs and then the cops would be at a disadvantage.

 No matter how you look at it....It is impossible to prevent this type of tragedy.

 I'm quite certain Canada has tragedies like this too
maybe not as many but nonetheless they have them too.
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Re: How screwed up is the gun control,,, gosh...
« Reply #138 on: April 22, 2007, 09:22:45 PM »
Well if we take the guns away from the law abiding citizens ....then only the criminal element will have them... 

That's pretty much the situation in every other progressive Western country, and it seems to work OK for all of us.
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