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Author Topic: Man treated for cancer with HIV  (Read 489 times)

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Offline Almost2late

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Man treated for cancer with HIV
« on: November 20, 2014, 09:15:33 AM »
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Re: Man treated for cancer with HIV
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2014, 09:49:02 AM »
The 30-year-old father underwent a trial treatment at Penn Medicine in Philadelphia.

... thank you

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Offline bubba53

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Re: Man treated for cancer with HIV
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2014, 10:08:44 AM »
I have always thought the two were closely related,
What exactly is a " disabled form of HIV " ?
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Re: Man treated for cancer with HIV
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2014, 10:18:13 AM »
I have always thought the two were closely related,
What exactly is a " disabled form of HIV " ?
Good question...I don't know :-[... maybe its hiv infected cells post art :-\


(I thought I lived in a 3rd world-type city) ::)
Philly's been in the forefront on hiv research and technology from what I can see..
http://www.news-medical.net/news/20141028/CHOP-Temple-University-to-jointly-investigate-new-methods-for-eradicating-HIV.aspx

 :)
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Re: Man treated for cancer with HIV
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2014, 10:21:19 AM »
I have always thought the two were closely related,
What exactly is a " disabled form of HIV " ?

Its along the lines of the altered flu virus shots ... enough genetic material to get an immune response but without the ability to infect .

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Re: Man treated for cancer with HIV
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2014, 04:03:19 PM »

Philly's been in the forefront on hiv research and technology from what I can see..


Well duh, I know that -- 1 out of every 6 doctors in the U.S. receives medical training in Philadelphia.

source

But what would one expect from a city-metropolitan area with a gross domestic product of $388 billion, Philadelphia ranks ninth among world cities and fourth in the nation.

***paging Bugsy***

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Offline Almost2late

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Re: Man treated for cancer with HIV
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 10:27:47 AM »
Well duh, I know that -- 1 out of every 6 doctors in the U.S. receives medical training in Philadelphia.

source

But what would one expect from a city-metropolitan area with a gross domestic product of $388 billion, Philadelphia ranks ninth among world cities and fourth in the nation.

***paging Bugsy***

(and Guilhermina)
Interesting facts about philly.. I visited once many moons ago, stayed at the navy yard brig for a couple of weeks.

I don't get the Bugsy and Guilhernina thingy :-\
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Re: Man treated for cancer with HIV
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2014, 10:49:55 AM »
Interesting facts about philly.. I visited once many moons ago, stayed at the navy yard brig for a couple of weeks.

I don't get the Bugsy and Guilhernina thingy :-\

Doesn't the brig mean jail?? So your saying that you enjoyed your stay in jail?  ,ok

Once, when I was being treated for anal dysplasia they prescribed me this cream that cause my ass to swell something fierce.  I was on a business trip to Boston at the time and on my flight home I had a layover in Philadelphia.  There I was stuck at the Philadelphia airport with my ass on fire trying desperately to find a clean bathroom.  Guess what, there isn't one.  Total dump. I would have had a better chance finding a clean bathroom in Calcutta.


What does this have to do with anything?  Nothing.  So what.

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Re: Man treated for cancer with HIV
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2014, 11:06:18 AM »
Getting back on topic, this is very cool (says the man with lymphoma, which is a blood cancer having many things in common with leukemia).  What is really cool is that they say this could some day eliminate the need for cancer patients to have stem cell transplants ("bone marrow" transplants):

Here is more information, directly from the University of Pennsylvania:

http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/news/news_releases/2012/12/tcell/
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Re: Man treated for cancer with HIV
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2014, 11:12:49 AM »
The question is could this be used on people with existing hiv?
 

If your taking hiv meds wouldn't they also kill off the modified hiv used to fight the cancer??

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Re: Man treated for cancer with HIV
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2014, 11:41:46 AM »
The question is could this be used on people with existing hiv?

I think not, because they are specifically using that fact that HIV is good at attaching to white blood cells when they come to attack the HIV virus, and exploiting / destroying them to replicate more HIV.   There's a *lot* known about how to kill off white blood cells, which are involved in leukemia and lymphoma, and they've figured out a way to target only the cancerous cells.  But HIV is not attacking and attaching to itself.

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If your taking hiv meds wouldn't they also kill off the modified hiv used to fight the cancer??

I suppose that if you were being treated for cancer and also had HIV, you ought to stop taking HIV meds while undergoing this treatment.  Several of the regimens for lymphoma recommend that. 

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Re: Man treated for cancer with HIV
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2014, 12:04:56 PM »
Interesting facts about philly.. I visited once many moons ago, stayed at the navy yard brig for a couple of weeks.

Ah, the Navy Yard -- it's being completely transformed into a major corporate park in the historic section. All of the old buildings have been restored and repurposed, and new buildings such as the new US headquarters for GlaxoSmithKline are now there. Go to google maps and enter "GSK 5 Crescent Dr Philadelphia, PA 19112" and then drive around with street view. Also, manufacturing has picked up locally to the highest in 20 years and companies like Axalta Coating Systems are about to build a 200,000 sq ft facility there.

But there are also still dry docks there for shipbuilding and repair work operated by Norwegian Aker -- and they are operating at full capacity after lean years with a full order book through 2018.

Then the far eastern unused section which held Mustin Field and the 1918 built WW1 Naval Aircraft Factory, is to be changed to a major "Energy Hub" for the Mid-Atlantic region supposedly to rival size with what one finds in Houston, TX. -- it has full port, docs, rail and interstate connections.
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Re: Man treated for cancer with HIV
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 11:57:08 AM »
Doesn't the brig mean jail?? So your saying that you enjoyed your stay in jail?  ,ok
Being in jail in the military is not like in civilian life... It's a vacation ;)... Now military prison is another story.

I suppose that if you were being treated for cancer and also had HIV, you ought to stop taking HIV meds while undergoing this treatment.  Several of the regimens for lymphoma recommend that. 
This scares me a lot cause if your cd4's are already at aids level and you gotta stop treatment to battle the lymphoma, where does that leave you?
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