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Author Topic: Yerba Mate!  (Read 2774 times)

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Offline dixieman

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Yerba Mate!
« on: April 11, 2007, 10:58:08 AM »
My recent counts for cd4 and viral load are... cd4 1509 viral load non detected...
also... I'm on atripila... hiv+ since 1991...
yerba mate is a south american herbal drink.... 500 more times antitoxident than green tea... I still drink calendula tea... stinging nettle etc... and recently started the yerba mate takes a bit of getting use to... but, hey at one time I was drinking my own personal medicine... called my own urine before meds were available... lol

Offline macholicious

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Re: Yerba Mate!
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2007, 11:44:03 AM »
Can you tell me where I can buy the yerba tea?

Offline dixieman

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Re: Yerba Mate!
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2007, 01:39:18 PM »
Most healthfood stores but, just google and theres plenty of online sites to choose from... generally costing from $6 to $15 dollars a pound... etc... any more questions... I'll be glad to answer the best I can...

Offline allopathicholistic

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Re: Yerba Mate!
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2007, 07:41:30 PM »
but, hey at one time I was drinking my own personal medicine... called my own urine before meds were available... lol

My ex-co worker told me urine can be used as some kind of beauty toner for the face  :o and I don't think she was joking

As far as yerba mate, I like it. Funny thing, my doctor said his wife -who's from Chile and most Chileans according to him-- are very particular about their yerba mate. He said she said if mate comes in a tea bag then it's not "real" ... Gosh, he makes her sound like some kind of snob about it. Goodness.

 Edited to add link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29

For me, perhaps it was the placebo effect, but mate seemed to help with energy and alertness. I like the taste now but didn't at first

« Last Edit: April 11, 2007, 07:45:08 PM by allopathicholistic »

Offline Central79

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Re: Yerba Mate!
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2007, 05:35:59 AM »
Does anybody know how much epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG) Yerba mate contains?

This is the compound in Green Tea that inhibits HIV binding to CD4 receptors, and is now being investigated as a possible adjunct HIV therapy.

I did a bit of research yesterday, and failed to come up with a good answer.

M.
Diagnosed January 2006
26/1/06 - 860 (22%), VL > 500,000
24/4/06 - 820 (24.6%), VL 158,000
13/7/06 - 840 (22%), VL 268,000
1/11/06 - 680 (21%), VL 93,100
29/1/07 - 1,020 (27.5%), VL 46,500
15/5/07 - 1,140 (22.8%), VL not done.
13/10/07 - 759 (23.2%), VL 170,000
6/11/07 - 630 (25%), VL 19,324
14/1/08 - 650 (21%), VL 16,192
15/4/08 - 590 (21%), VL 40, 832

Offline allopathicholistic

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Re: Yerba Mate!
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2007, 05:31:21 AM »
Does anybody know how much epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG) Yerba mate contains?

This is the compound in Green Tea that inhibits HIV binding to CD4 receptors, and is now being investigated as a possible adjunct HIV therapy.

Hmmm, thanks ... I did not know about any of that until now! I wonder why my doctor didn't say anything or maybe he did and I just wasn't listening

Offline keyite

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Re: Yerba Mate!
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2007, 07:03:56 AM »
Apparently white tea (a sub-type of green) contains even higher levels of EGCG - and personally I think it tastes better... ;)

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Yerba Mate!
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2007, 07:56:47 AM »
Apparently white tea (a sub-type of green) contains even higher levels of EGCG - and personally I think it tastes better... ;)


I wonder, ... Is it processed differently, that allows for a higher concentration of ECGC ? It does come from the same plant right ?? (Camellia sinensis )

Have to ask my nutritional people about this, tomorrow.. Get their thoughts...



Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
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 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

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Offline keyite

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Re: Yerba Mate!
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2007, 08:09:21 AM »
It does come from the same plant right ?? (Camellia sinensis )

Yup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_tea

Offline Central79

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Re: Yerba Mate!
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2007, 08:23:23 AM »
Apparently white tea (a sub-type of green) contains even higher levels of EGCG - and personally I think it tastes better... ;)

Where'd you get that from?  ???
Diagnosed January 2006
26/1/06 - 860 (22%), VL > 500,000
24/4/06 - 820 (24.6%), VL 158,000
13/7/06 - 840 (22%), VL 268,000
1/11/06 - 680 (21%), VL 93,100
29/1/07 - 1,020 (27.5%), VL 46,500
15/5/07 - 1,140 (22.8%), VL not done.
13/10/07 - 759 (23.2%), VL 170,000
6/11/07 - 630 (25%), VL 19,324
14/1/08 - 650 (21%), VL 16,192
15/4/08 - 590 (21%), VL 40, 832

Offline keyite

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Re: Yerba Mate!
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2007, 08:34:13 AM »
Where'd you get that from?  ???

I buy mine from Planet Organic at Torrington Place (side road to Tottenham Cross Road in Central London). They have both a Fair Trade and a Clipper version. Have been pondering buying it loose over the Internet, instead of teabags, though. Planet Organic is excellent for other stuff too... :)

Offline Central79

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Re: Yerba Mate!
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2007, 08:38:37 AM »
I meant where did you get the information that there is more EGCG in white tea compared to green tea. D'oh!  :D

I walk past Planet Organic quite a bit. Lots of scarily anaemic people in there - one blood sausage would go a long way!  :D
Diagnosed January 2006
26/1/06 - 860 (22%), VL > 500,000
24/4/06 - 820 (24.6%), VL 158,000
13/7/06 - 840 (22%), VL 268,000
1/11/06 - 680 (21%), VL 93,100
29/1/07 - 1,020 (27.5%), VL 46,500
15/5/07 - 1,140 (22.8%), VL not done.
13/10/07 - 759 (23.2%), VL 170,000
6/11/07 - 630 (25%), VL 19,324
14/1/08 - 650 (21%), VL 16,192
15/4/08 - 590 (21%), VL 40, 832

Offline keyite

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Re: Yerba Mate!
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2007, 09:19:25 AM »
Maybe you should set up a stall outside? ;D

I remember reading about it somewhere on my travels but of course now I can't find it again. Perhaps I misunderstood. I found this though:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/05/040526070934.htm

 


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