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Author Topic: John Hopkins Moore Clinic Is A RIP OFF!!!  (Read 5683 times)

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Offline FiercenBed

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John Hopkins Moore Clinic Is A RIP OFF!!!
« on: April 03, 2007, 12:42:55 PM »
before everyone goes off the deep end over my smudging the supposed fine reputation of Johns Hopkins read my story.....

in september my hiv doc wanted me to see a dermatologist over two serious conditions. with him being in a different city i decided to tap on the computer and find an hiv dermatologist. there arnt many. low and behold johns hopkins moore clinic has a dermatologist specializing in hiv conditions. i called the appointment number and specifically said what my problem was.  I was told you cant see the dermatologist until you are evaluated by another doc. okay what ever; i make an appointment. earliest they can see me is november.

so i march myself down to this city within a city find the clinic on time fill the paper work out and wait an hour 1/2/ past the appointment time. once again; whatever. so they call my name take my blood pressure and temp. place me in a teny tiny room and this very young woman comes in. i ask her if she is an attending <a doc in training> or a fellow. shes an attending. oh great now im a doctors training dup.

she ask about when i was diagnosed, current vl cd4 meds all that gobble gook. while this is going we are constantly interrupted because shes the only person who can speak spanish and they need a translator<place is a free for all>. i clearly tell her i need to see the dermatologist. she looks at both problems and sez yep u need a dermatologist. problem is no appointment till february. i asked for some medication and she said no wait for the dermatologist. here i think iv got cancer and they want me to wait 3 months 2 c a doc. so i schedule the apt and chill till feb.

okay herez where the RIP OFF comes in. i get the explanation of benefits from insurance company they billed for $365.00 for the apt. jesus christ my very first doc billed $110 <excluding lab fees> to diagnosis hiv do the initial cd4 & vl and write the first script for meds. so i pay the bill shy of $200 w/ copay and deductible. end there right....wrong.

so feb finally comes get to see the dermatologist and he tells me since i had insurance i didnt need to do the evaluation. i could have seen him in his outpatient clinic. great i wasted $365.00.

gets better.... so the other day a nasty woman from a collection called and sez i have a $365 bill in collections from hopkins. im like no no no. i paid that bill. she states she sez that payment but therez another bill for $365. i ask her who to call and she dosnt know. so i call the clinic and they give me billing.

well i get the most arrogant nasty rude man, mr. brown, on the phone. he states the other bill is for 'hospital services' $365.  huh? thatz the bill for use of the hospital. i ask whatz the diagnosis code for that. he stated id have to call medical records. when i stated i had issues with this. he snapped id have to call patient services <contradiction of words>. iv placed 2 calls w/ no return call! basically there billing like it was an emergency room visit.

so at the end of the day John Hopkins is billing $725.00 for ONE doctors visit that I did not even have to have. i didnt even see a 'real' doc, no blood work, no script, no nothing!. there fricking me over >:(

so if you have the misfortune of going to hopkins be sure to ask the idiots exactly what the visit is gonna cost or theyll frick you over to.

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: John Hopkins Moore Clinic Is A RIP OFF!!!
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2007, 06:06:46 PM »

It's too bad that  had to happen to you. We live and learn... We chalk it up to experience, and try to prevent these things from happenning in the future . Keep receipts !! Ask for detailed print-outs after procedures are done. This will usually give the codes and the charges.

Dermatologist are very expensive. Every time I go, My insurance is charged at least 600.00, per visit, for things that I need to have done. I am seldom in there for more then 20 minutes. My C0-pay is 50.00

Unfoortunately, I also have to  go at least three times a year.


Ray 
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



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 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of 8/2514,  t-cells are at 402, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 11%

  
 62 years young.

Offline FiercenBed

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Re: John Hopkins Moore Clinic Is A RIP OFF!!!
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2007, 06:16:33 PM »
thanx for the reply ray.......@ least i got one.

this isnt live and learn. this isnt my first time @ the rodeo. i work w/ docs; unfortunately. i know procedures, cpt codes, level I, II, III visits all that stuff. this is a clear, specific case of thievery! okay iv got hiv....bummer. but everybody from doctors, insurance companies, lab corporation, big pharm all got their hands in my pockets.

i finally heard from patient services @ hopkins. the woman sez, "so how much do you think you should pay"? that tells me right there they acknowledge overcharging. itz being reviewed by a board. great.

im involved in a level II appeal right now w/ blue cross & blue shield of north carolina for a resistance test after a virologic failure diagnosis. health & human services guidelines sez get a resistance test. i got a resistance test. their ' corporate medical policy' sez they pay for a resistance test.....but they wont pay for a test that 'involves comparison to a data base'. what the hell is a resistance test then?  'itz investigational'. itza $700 test!

between the 2 ordeals thatz $1,400 and iv got insurance. something is wrong here >:(

i cant b the only one w/ all these problems? anyone else, please post it here.....thanx.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2007, 06:19:44 PM by FiercenBed »

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Re: John Hopkins Moore Clinic Is A RIP OFF!!!
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2007, 06:23:40 PM »
Milker sez: "itz hard to read"

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Offline FiercenBed

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Re: John Hopkins Moore Clinic Is A RIP OFF!!!
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2007, 01:35:04 PM »
note to self:> milestone first time i type, "iv got hiv" in a post.

« Last Edit: April 21, 2007, 09:43:32 PM by FiercenBed »

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: John Hopkins Moore Clinic Is A RIP OFF!!!
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2007, 06:29:38 AM »
thanx for the reply ray.......@ least i got one.



im involved in a level II appeal right now w/ blue cross & blue shield of north carolina for a resistance test after a virologic failure diagnosis. health & human services guidelines sez get a resistance test. i got a resistance test. their ' corporate medical policy' sez they pay for a resistance test.....but they wont pay for a test that 'involves comparison to a data base'. what the hell is a resistance test then?  'itz investigational'. itza $700 test!

between the 2 ordeals thatz $1,400 and iv got insurance. something is wrong here >:(

i cant b the only one w/ all these problems? anyone else, please post it here.....thanx.


I wish you the best with that appeal. and you are right, resistance test are part of the health and human services guidelines. I haven't had any resistance test done yet. I was just reading something the other day about this. Continue fighting this.

It was showing the pheno test as costing around $800.00.


Good luck with that. keep us updated



Take care of yourself---------Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of 8/2514,  t-cells are at 402, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 11%

  
 62 years young.

 


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