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Author Topic: When did we get all disordered?  (Read 1080 times)

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Offline carousel

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When did we get all disordered?
« on: April 02, 2007, 09:42:50 AM »
I don’t know if it is just me, but I am sceptical of the proliferation of the number of disorders that professionals seek to define us with.

I understand that only clinicians can make a diagnosis, but when you read the DSM IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) lists associated with common disorders, they seem so generalised that I can't help feeling that something is wrong.

I know that not being able to concentrate, feeling anxious, stressed out, unable to sleep or any one of the things that hinder our lives are no laughing matter.  It’s the bunching together of these concerns so that professionals can treat us is the worrying thing.  And without the diagnosis, generally we are left without the treatment.  I also wonder in how many cases these diagnosis are questioned and following the definition, is medication necessary in so many cases?

If you have been diagnosed with a disorder, it’s worthwhile having a look at how they are defined.  Can you really quantify and list our personality traits?  I was surprised about the lack of science associated with these diagnoses and in some cases, a relatively random list of issues.  Is the Doctor just ticking off a list, does diagnosis come when we raise our problems with them. 

You only have to look at the biggest criticisms of these definitions was that homosexuality was considered a disorder until the early 70's to see that Doctors do not always know best.

Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: When did we get all disordered?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2007, 11:14:45 AM »
The DSM is a guide so mental health professionals know how to define and communicate mental health symptoms. If I tell one of my coworkers that someone has 296.34 Major Depressive Disorder, Recurrent, Severe with Psychotic Features they have some idea of what I am talking about. When you look at the DSM there appears to be a diagnosis for everything but that is because so many people have so many problems that they feel are troubling them. The thing to keep in mind is whether the person feels they have a problem or whether their behavior is dangerous to themselves or other people.

You are right that many people are misdiagnosed. The one that stand out to me is ADD, attention deficit disorder. ADD is a real condition but WAY too many children are put on Adderall and other medications because physicians and parents want a quick fix to what are actually behavior problems.

Another mistaken area are personality disorders. Everyone has personality traits that can be described as pathological by the DSM. Everyone gets a little paranoid, a little narcissistic, a little histrionic. The problem is when people cannot hold a job or maintain a relationship because no one, not even family, can stand to be around them.

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Re: When did we get all disordered?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2007, 11:17:02 AM »
Various therapists have tried pumping me full of enough medication to make me my very own pharmacy.

I told them that my "problems" enhanced my personality and that they'd have to take a more cognitive approach.

They looked at me like I was crazy and couldn't help me.

So I turned to that great psychological and emotional equalizer.

Booze.
Your tastebuds can't repel flavor of this magnitude!

Offline SASA39

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Re: When did we get all disordered?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2007, 11:39:47 AM »

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Offline Val

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Re: When did we get all disordered?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2007, 04:55:21 PM »
Funny you brought up this subject, Charles.  I was having lunch with a lovely friend today (the one who says she plays golf badly...but, is a very good player whenever there is a prize), and she told me a little story about her doctor.
She was not feeling too well lately and went to see this guy for some advices.  The very first thing he told her was that he'd put her on anti-depressants!  She categorically refused, had a chat with him and left.
He did call her back, though, to reaffirm his diagnosis and to let her know that whenever she felt ready she could start the treatment.  She, on the other hand, is absolutely convinced that she doesn't need any of his medications...

Val
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