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Author Topic: GREEN TEA  (Read 9134 times)

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Offline michaelbr

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GREEN TEA
« on: June 21, 2006, 06:45:16 PM »
Green Tea Blocks HIV in Test Tubes

An antioxidant in green tea may block HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, from attaching to an important molecule on immune system cells.


Check out the following site to read more with other news.


http://www.egcg.co.uk/LatestResearch.htm


hope best
« Last Edit: July 20, 2006, 03:43:59 AM by michaelbr »

Offline michaelbr

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2006, 08:29:30 PM »
Please check out the following site for more news on both Hiv and cancer.

http://www.egcg.co.uk
« Last Edit: July 20, 2006, 03:44:26 AM by michaelbr »

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2006, 02:42:18 AM »
Shame it tastes like cat's piss. ;)

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Offline randym431

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2006, 02:17:35 AM »
so whats the best source of green tea? pills or liquid?

Offline allopathicholistic

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2006, 09:17:44 AM »
randym: i've never done the pills so i'd have ta go with liquid. it's prob metabolized faster

Offline Jeff64

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2006, 01:41:55 PM »
Oh Matty,
I make my green sun tea and drink it iced with honey and mint. It hardly tastes like cat whiz!

I consume about a quart a day-I prefer it to plain water.
As for the benefits, if they are there, great-if there are no real benefits, I suppose it is better than drinking Coke all day!

Jeff

Offline ChristopherSF

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2006, 04:31:22 PM »
I buy loose green tea(organic)  and brew up one cup in a chinese tea pot.  I let it sit for a good 3o minutes and drink it room temperature before I head to the gym.  You get used to the taste.  Its a potent tea.. hopefully its helping.

Cheers,

Chris

Offline cubbybear

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2006, 01:14:51 AM »
White Tea (not black tea with milk!) has even more antioxidants in it than green tea, sure it's more expensive, but isn't everything that is good for you?

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Offline fearless

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2006, 05:01:15 AM »
Spot on Cubby,
White tea, comes from the very new growth, it is higher in antiaoxidants than green tea, and the taste is far mailder and nicer. Green tea can turn my stomach.

White tea, was traditionally for royalty, green tea, for the aristocracy, and black tea for everyone else.
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Offline sweetasmeli

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2006, 02:08:12 PM »
White tea's yummy! Our lovely Little Stephen introduced me to it while I was in Oz cos I told him I get the nausea thing with certain brands of green.  I tend to have at least one cup each of green and white tea a day, both organic. My stomach tends to fare better with loose green tea though than the stuff in bags...no idea why!

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Offline chadnla

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2007, 09:17:11 PM »
i would go with liquid verus pills.  i don't trust the pill manufacturers. they're the first to product anything in pill form that has health bennies.  just think of all the recent diet pill crap that was marketed.
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Offline dixieman

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2007, 10:03:33 AM »
Morning, I drink lots of green tea, coffee, and cokes... but, if you do not like the taste... give yourself a green tea enema... its a great avenue to get all the benefits into the blood system... generally thats how most contracted hiv... thru anal sex... so let that sewage plant work for you...lol even before meds... I've been able to maintain cd4 counts above 1000... so keep your colon clean...

Offline Optimistic

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2007, 11:50:26 AM »
I drink several cups of green tea a day, but of course I use the same tea bag over and over within that day. =)  The taste isn't too bad for me....but does anyone know if too much green tea can be harmful? I'm just wondering.

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12/06 (Atripla): cd4 - 260; cd% - 33%; vl - 169
1/07 (Atripla): cd4 - 267; cd% - 38.1%; vl - 132
4/07 (Atripla): cd4 - 373; cd% - 33.9%; vl - <50
7/07 (Atripla); cd4 - 287; cd% - 35.8%; vl - <50
9/07 (Atripla); cd4 - 356; cd% - 39.5%; vl - <50
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Offline Tucsonwoody

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2007, 12:12:33 PM »
Hey Optimistic -

In general green tea isn't harmful but one drug it does interact with is Warfarin which is an anti-coagulant used in people with blood clots and other issues. 

Here is a link about green tea in general for anyone interested: http://www.drugs.com/cdi/green_tea.html

Also read in today's paper that drinking green tea with milk in it destroys the beneficial parts of the tea so you have to drink it black.

"Bloomberg News
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 01.10.2007

Adding milk to tea takes all the good out of a daily "cuppa," spelling bad news for such nations as the United Kingdom where the two usually go together, according to a report in the European Heart Journal published Tuesday."

http://www.azstarnet.com/news/163959
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Offline Nico

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2007, 09:00:18 PM »
Justin,
I thought I was the only one to make multi-use of "the bag".  Well at least I am in good company and I agree that diluting the tea over the day does make it go down smoother.  What I really like is the minimal caffeine effect.  I quit coffee a year ago and do not regret it...I remember the coffee shits! 

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Offline NewYorkKat

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2007, 04:44:07 PM »
I never tried Green tea but I do enjoy my ginger tea. Anyone tried ginger tea? I gave up caffine about a month & 1/2 ago!

Offline AustinWesley

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2007, 03:07:15 AM »
I finally found one I like at Sams.   It's Organic Green Tea and has a very mild taste very similar to regular iced tea.   The brand is Uncle Lee's Tea.  The package says Leyendas de China  Organico Te Verde (Green Tea)  It's 6.99 for 200 tea bags.

I have started drinking tons of it to replace diet sodas.   Green tea is lower in caffeine and doesn't have the jittery effects of coffee or coke.

I like it iced or hot.   You can even just toss 4/5 in your coffee maker and brew up a pot.

I figure the organic tea balances out the Equal I put in it ;)   Seems to help with hunger control to me.   I can't say I notice anything healthwise that's noticeable other than it doesn't make me jumpy and has to be healthier than all the diet cokes and what not.

I had a hard time finding it in Austin, or rather a reasonably priced one that actually tasted good.   The first time I tried it I had to go back and check the box cause I thought I'd bought the wrong kind.   This one's mellow and not bitter like the kind at sushi places.

   



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Offline budndallastx

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2007, 11:38:15 AM »
There was a show about tea on the Discovery Channel a couple of weeks ago.  All tea comes from the same plant but like wine, it is based upon where it is grown.  Green tea is steamed before processing to stop the enzymes from breaking it down to become what is known as black tea.  Of course, the processing is the same regardless.

Okay, so much for the science lesson.  I personally love Arizona Diet Green Tea.  It's awesome cold and I heartily recommend it.  Also, check out your local yellow pages and see if there are any tea shops that sell it in bulk.  Nothing better than buying fresh tea and letting it step in the pot.  There are some interesting varieties including some very fragrant ones.

Oh yeah, green tea has just as much caffiene in it as tea and coffee so be careful about drinking it at bedtime.
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Offline catwoman

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2007, 04:42:20 PM »
I looove ginger tea.  I grate fresh ginger and pour boiling water over it.  Strain it and add some honey.  I love it.  You can always mix ginger with green tea and it's fabulous.

Offline Pippet

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2007, 11:14:19 AM »
I always add a little ginger (and honey) to my green or white tea. Not only do I love the flavor but it makes it very mild on the tummy.    I buy my tea "loose" and usually mix green and white equally.

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Offline Zanarkand

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2007, 09:11:10 AM »
The trick to making Green tea without it being bitter is not to use BOILING WATER.
You have to use water at about 60C (half boiled)
That way it doesn't taste bitter, it actually comes out sweet.
As for me, I just add sugar.

If I could afford it I'd get Matcha Tea.....
Now that stuff is GOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!

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Offline bedder1

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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2007, 05:17:16 PM »
"We found that the EGCG molecule itself binds to the same exact binding pocket on the CD4 molecule at the site of the same amino acids to which gp120 binds," said Baylor's Christina Nance, MD, PhD. "When it binds there, the gp120 envelope protein, and thus HIV, can't."

i take 1000 mg of green tea extract (available at bjs wholesale club)

all i know is somthing made my cd4  go from 475 to 799 in the span of 2 doctors visits
i had not taken green tea before my cd4 level was 475 , i read somewhere about green tea blockling hiv so started taking it . i was on it for right around 2 mos when cd4 came back at 799

also, a close friend went from  cd4 somewhere in the neighborhood of 250 (on meds)  and in the span of one doctor visit his cd4 went up by 40%.

the pills are only about $30 for a bottle of 200 1000mg tablets.
i realize there may be naysayers, and im not even completely sure if its the pills. but give it 2 mos folks try it nothin to lose but your 30$ LOL  id be intrested in hearing your results
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Re: GREEN TEA
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2007, 05:49:54 PM »
about ten years ago I heard this same thing about green tea. I drank it day and night for a couple of months along with my favorite African honey bush tea. My ts went from 350 to 650. I kept drinking the tea. Next Dr. visit my Ts were back down to 350.

 


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