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Author Topic: Green tea pills or liquid ?  (Read 2412 times)

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Offline SASA39

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Green tea pills or liquid ?
« on: March 31, 2007, 06:44:07 AM »
So in light of all previous info what seems to be the best way to have an intake of EGCG...........I mean a pill have more EGCG than cup of tea but is it worth or efficient in the same way as natural tea............
http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/1667_11621.shtml
Quote :According to Dr. Nance, the investigators were determined to show that physiological levels of EGCG an amount achieved by drinking just two cups of green tea caused inhibition of gp120 binding to CD4 cells. After all, artificially high concentrations of EGCG placed in test tubes to inhibit binding have no meaning for patients.  ? ! ?
And green tea should be prepared with unboiled water app. 80 C and left for 2`
If longer it may have a bitter taste .
And with a lemon added arome it is just delicious.............
Any oppinions ?
                                                                        Al
Oct.     `06.  CD4=58  ?    %       VL not perform. ?!?
25.Dec.`06.         203       14        VL= 0
29.May.`07.    broken device        VL=1363
20.June`07     broken device        VL=0
25.Dec `07  CD4=582                  VL=70
14.May `08  CD4=448
29.July `08                                  VL=0
26.Nov `08  CD4=674                    VL=179
16.Mar `09  CD4=554                    VL=0
19.Jan`10 CD4=715               
03.Mar`10                                    VL=0
24.Aug`10 CD4=524                     VL=0
04.Dec`10 CD4=626                     VL=0
15.Sep`11                                   VL=93
17.Nov`11                                   VL=0
05/26 .Jul`12 CD4=713                 VL=0
28.Nov`12 CD4=916                     VL=0
09.May`13                                 VL=0

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Green tea pills or liquid ?
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2007, 07:12:38 AM »
Sasa,

I've never done the green tea supplements. I do however drink green tea on a regular basis.Have for a long time. I also buy the Green tea/ tea bags for brewing hot tea. I very seldom drink coffee.

Ray

Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of 8/2514,  t-cells are at 402, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 11%

  
 62 years young.

Offline racingmind

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Re: Green tea pills or liquid ?
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2007, 11:37:09 AM »
I do both.  I figure it can't hurt.
Tested Negative: 5/06
Tested Positive: 9/06 
9/06: CD4: 442 (28%) VL: +100,000
10/06: CD4: 323 (25%) VL: 243,440
11/06: CD4: 405 (28%) VL: 124,324
12/06: CD4: 450 (29%) VL: 114,600
1/07: CD4: 440 (27%) VL: 75,286
3/07: CD4: 459 (30%) VL: 44,860
5/07: CD4: 353 (24%) VL: 50,852
7/07: CD4: 437 (29%) VL: 39,475
9/07: CD4: 237 (32%) VL: 372,774
10/07: CD4: 324 (27%) VL: 115,454 
Started Atripla: 10/07
11/07: CD4: 524 (?%) VL: Undetectable!
2/08: CD4: 653 (35%) VL: undetectable
5/08: CD4: 822 (40%) VL: undetectable
8/08: CD4: 626 (35%) VL: undetectable
12/08: CD4: 619 (36%) VL: undetectable
3/09: CD4: 802 (38%) VL: undetectable
7/09: CD4: 1027 (43%) VL: not tested
10/09: CD4: 1045 (43%) VL: undetectable

Offline krakerjm

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Re: Green tea pills or liquid ?
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2007, 05:36:18 PM »
First off, lemon is good for everything, even bad breath and will take that fishy smell out of metal pans. and supposedly will kill the HIV virus, but no way to get it to the cells, LOL.  Green tea is like every thing else, doesn't hurt to drink it but nothing is scientificlly conclusive based on an article or two.  I heard something else recently on a news show about helping keep HIV undectetable with a certain food or herb, forget now; wasn't that interested have heard so much; where is the cure!?!
GWM, 63, PN w/footdrop
"I swear there ain't no heaven, pray ther ain't no hell"

Offline Christine

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Re: Green tea pills or liquid ?
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2007, 06:38:21 PM »
Personally, I would make a cup of green tea. It tastes good.

And yes, I have read that green tea should be steeped in almost boiling water, for a shorter period of time than a black tea. It can get a little bitter when steeped to long. Depends on your taste as to how long to steep it.

Christine
Poz since '93. Currently on Procrit, Azithromax, Pentamidine, Valcyte, Levothyroxine, Zoloft, Epzicom, Prezista, Viread, Norvir, and GS-9137 study drug. As needed: Trazodone, Atavan, Diflucan, Zofran, Hydrocodone, Octreotide

5/30/07 t-cells 9; vl 275,000

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Green tea pills or liquid ?
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2007, 07:13:11 PM »
We were out shopping today, and I decided to buy the Green tea capsules. And give it a go, just for the hell of it !


These were made by GAIA herbs. Liquid Phyto-caps----Green tea

"Rich in Naturally occurring antioxidants". 100% vegetarian 60 liquid filled Capsules


Supplement facts :

Serving size, two capsules

Alchohol Free, concentrated extract of : Green tea ( Camelia Sinensis )

Whole plant standardization Activity profile:

Bio activity per two capsules : MG activity

Total polyphenols----------------300mg

Total Catechins ------------------240mg

Total catechins ;
Calculated as

 EGC (EPIGALLOCATECHIN )

 EC : ( EPICATECHIN)

 EGCG (EPIGALLOCATECHINGALLATE )

ECG (EPICATECHINGALLATE )

 ( AND OTHERS )

Other ingrediants :Vegetable glycerin, vegetable cellulose (capsule) the product contains naturally occurring caffeine from green tea.

Certified Organic

Each two capsules contain 3,000 mg of crude herb equivalent.

US patent no-6,238,691 B1


Suggested use :

Take two capsules with a small quantity of warm water 2 times daily after meals.

Not to be used during pregnancy or lactation. Keep away from children. Use only as directed on label. Sealed for your protection....(BLA, BLA,BLA....)

CONTAINS NO ANIMAL BY-PRODUCTS AND NO GELATIN

TESTED FREE OF HEAVY METAL TOXICITY



The cost was 21 dollars for 60 liquid filled capsules. I am only going to take two a day of these. Give it a try for a while. Two a day will let this bottle last one month. What the hell....  :-\



Ray





« Last Edit: April 01, 2007, 07:18:12 PM by J.R.E. »
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of 8/2514,  t-cells are at 402, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 11%

  
 62 years young.

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Green tea pills or liquid ?
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2007, 08:04:35 PM »
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of 8/2514,  t-cells are at 402, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 11%

  
 62 years young.

Offline J.R.E.

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  • Posts: 7,218
  • Joined Dec-2003 Living positive, since 1985.
Re: Green tea pills or liquid ?
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2007, 08:07:56 PM »
Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 12.5mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


 In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started my first  HAART regimen  on October 24th,03.

 As of 8/2514,  t-cells are at 402, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 11%

  
 62 years young.

 


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