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Do you think that a person with HIV would have with all other same ilsnes conditions same life span as a AIDS one ?

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Offline SASA39

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HIV vs. AIDS life span ?
« on: March 31, 2007, 03:50:53 AM »
I`m sorry but I just have to ask this  and I have forgot to pinn it with my revious post.................the more we know , the better we become !
Oct.     `06.  CD4=58  ?    %       VL not perform. ?!?
25.Dec.`06.         203       14        VL= 0
29.May.`07.    broken device        VL=1363
20.June`07     broken device        VL=0
25.Dec `07  CD4=582                  VL=70
14.May `08  CD4=448
29.July `08                                  VL=0
26.Nov `08  CD4=674                    VL=179
16.Mar `09  CD4=554                    VL=0
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03.Mar`10                                    VL=0
24.Aug`10 CD4=524                     VL=0
04.Dec`10 CD4=626                     VL=0
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17.Nov`11                                   VL=0
05/26 .Jul`12 CD4=713                 VL=0
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Offline Val

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Re: HIV vs. AIDS life span ?
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2007, 12:21:58 PM »
I voted "yes" 'cause the difference is the following:

1) We, Hiv+,  all live  the the virus that causes AIDS.  My doctor, for example, talks about Hiv infection when he refers to most of his patients. Not AIDS patients!

2) The dull-witted decision that classified people as having AIDS, as opposed to being asymptomatic, some years ago was based on the low number of T-cells (CD4) a person had.
And this norm has become something used by all countries nowadays.  It is usually when one's T-cells fall below the 200 mark that the person is regarded as having AIDS.  Moreover,  a lot of Hivers have been down that road before, so we all have AIDS anyway!

3) My doctor once told me that he had a patient from Africa that lived a normal life with 3 T-cells for some years, before her T-cells finally jumped over the 200 mark.

4) Today every Hiver  is supposed to know his/her  "nadir" (lowest) number of T-cells.  My nephew, for examplle, spent more than four years below the 200 mark after he started treatment with only 16 T-cells (CD4).  They are right now around 350!

Hope this helps, Sacha!  We'll talk more about this tomorrow over the phone.

Arthus Bertrand
Ali Mahdavi
Richard de Chazal
Daniel Nassoy
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