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Author Topic: Re-infection with HIV  (Read 1984 times)

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Offline way.out.west

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Re-infection with HIV
« on: March 29, 2007, 05:59:36 PM »
This topic has almost certainly come up before, but Iíve searched back a few pages in ďLiving with HIVĒ and havenít found anything.

As I understand it, dual-infection can occur during seroconversion, while re-infection (although extremely rare), can occur during a window period which begins after seroconversion and ends around the 3rd year that youíve had HIV.  In the isolated cases where re-infection seems to have occurred, the individuals were not taking meds.  That makes me wonder if meds act to prevent re-infection.

I believe there is a study now underway to look at the possibility of re-infection in couples where both have HIV.  But the results arenít yet out.

Does anyone have a different understanding, belief, or experience regarding HIV re-infection, or is there some scientific material you can direct me to?

Offline Oceanbeach

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Re: Re-infection with HIV
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2007, 06:25:00 PM »
Hey West,

This is a very good question and others will have some data or experiences in re-infection.  I was diagnosed 13 years ago, did not start meds until almost 11 years ago with my AIDS diagnosis and hospitalization w/ PCP.

During my initial diagnosis meeting (HIV), I asked the question,  "Since I am no longer the "Tight End" in the game and have become the "Wide Receiver" , is it still important that my "team mates" still use safety equipment, since I was already HIV+?"

The answer was, re-infections can happen any time, it is like throwing more wood on a fire.  Then, they provided a long list of STD's which could also be passed to me and further impact the quality of my life.  I took that information as the gospel truth.  A few years later, I moved to another community and met new friends.  In my new community, I met a friend named Rick (who also had HIV/AIDS).  Rick met someone whom he chose to grow old with and was also living with HIV.  Rick died of Hep C co-infection which was passed by this new "love of his life".   This person was not in attendance at the funeral or the memorial service but I saw him last week in the supermarket.  Have the best day
Michael

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Re-infection with HIV
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2007, 08:30:47 PM »
Hello ,

Click on the following link, Theres plenty of info to read :

http://qa.hopkins-aids.org/forum/search_result.html?section_id=61&keywords=reinfection



Ray

Current Meds ; Viramune, Epzicom, 40mg of simvastatin, 25 mg of Hydrochlorothiazide.
Metoprolol tartrate 25mg



http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


Diagnosed positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 As of 8/25/14,  t-cells are at 402, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 11%

  
 62 years young.

Offline Central79

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Re: Re-infection with HIV
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2007, 10:21:50 AM »
I think the basic thing here is that superinfection is not really well understood- what happens, how it happens, when it's likely to happen and what effects it is likely to have when it does happen - although catastrophic resistance to drugs is one scenario.

I am not aware of any documented cases of superinfection in somebody who has been infected longer than 4 years. That's not to say it doesn't happen, IMHO - after you've had HIV for a few years, a doctor might put down resistance to a drug to the HIV mutating naturally. I certainly think that meds are likely to reduce the risk of superinfection - it's like constantly taking PEP.

So it's largely an unknown. I totally agree with Sonomabeach on this though - there's a bunch of other stuff you can get. It's a fact that HIV+ people often present atypically with something like syphilis, and are not as responsive to treatment. Any STD can cause your T-cells to tank and be yet another thing your body has to fight.

I guess Sonoma's story of Rick is pretty illustrative...

M.
Diagnosed January 2006
26/1/06 - 860 (22%), VL > 500,000
24/4/06 - 820 (24.6%), VL 158,000
13/7/06 - 840 (22%), VL 268,000
1/11/06 - 680 (21%), VL 93,100
29/1/07 - 1,020 (27.5%), VL 46,500
15/5/07 - 1,140 (22.8%), VL not done.
13/10/07 - 759 (23.2%), VL 170,000
6/11/07 - 630 (25%), VL 19,324
14/1/08 - 650 (21%), VL 16,192
15/4/08 - 590 (21%), VL 40, 832

Offline ACinKC

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Re: Re-infection with HIV
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2007, 10:26:30 AM »
Here we go again!

LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

Offline ACinKC

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Re: Re-infection with HIV
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2007, 10:28:20 AM »
If i were not married and still single slutting myself out, it wouldnt be the HIV re-infection that scared me the most.  Its the other STD's which would cause me to be more careful.  Syphillis was WAY worse for me so far.  But I am a newbie, so take that with a grain of salt.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

Offline way.out.west

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Re: Re-infection with HIV
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2007, 11:37:28 AM »
Thanks, everyone, for responding.  This information has been helpful.  I hadn't considered the possible transmission of Hep C or syphilis.

Offline ACinKC

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Re: Re-infection with HIV
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2007, 12:03:07 PM »
Just an FYI west, you might want to start a new thread and tell us all a little bit about yourself.  Good to put a story with the screenname.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

Offline woodshere

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Re: Re-infection with HIV
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2007, 12:28:40 PM »
Its the other STD's which would cause me to be more careful. 

No shit.  Last weekend I attended a retreat and safe sex and STDs were discussed, with pictures, unfortunately not of the sex, but the STDs.  Gives me pause to perhaps go back to using the raingear.

Woods
"Let us give pubicity to HV/AIDS and not hide it..." "One of the things destroying people with AIDS is the stigma we attach to it."   Nelson Mandela

Offline sdcabincrew74

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Re: Re-infection with HIV
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2007, 01:16:57 AM »
There is no statistical proof of re-infection once one is stable on meds and is taking those meds as directed.  This comes UP all the time and there are differing opinions on all this.  Personally, sero-sorting and then going bare works for me.....but that is just me.
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