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Author Topic: JObs that require drug testing  (Read 2988 times)

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Offline motherinneed

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JObs that require drug testing
« on: March 20, 2007, 05:13:40 PM »
With HIV , some of the meds can cause a positive when getting pre employment drug testing..correct?

How does one get around this if they wish not to have their health history and open book to employers?

DO you get a letter from your MD stating that you are on meds which will give a false positive for drug testing and not have to reveal your HIV status..Just seems like a privacy issue being violated and opening you up to not being hired even though that is illegal to discriminate due to health issues.

Just thinking out loud and need some input as I have no idea about these issues and need some direction.


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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2007, 05:26:06 PM »
I believe you just inform the testing center and they administer a slightly more sensitive test.  But im not 100% sure on this.
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Offline shepsmom

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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2007, 06:55:26 PM »
I've had dozens of drug tests. I'm a truck driver. They put it through a more sensitive test. They can tell exactly what the drug is but are not allowed to reveal anything to your employer except for what is being tested for i.e. marjuana, heroin,meth etc..

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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2007, 07:27:34 PM »
I myself was wonder this, where I have just recently applied for a job that gave a drug test right at the interview. I have been worried as to what results the will get back.  they did a mouth swab test. any input as to what I should espect? should I also be worried? I will be going to my DR tomorrow, Ill have to ask for something if it does come back as a false positive..
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Offline Coffeechick88

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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2007, 07:41:06 PM »
I would make sure that  GC/MS is included in the testing panel to confirm all positives.  The testing personnell should be able to tell you if positives are automatically confirmed with GC/MS and if not, request it.  I think that is usually what the procedure is, but I am not sure since I don't work in a toxocology lab and we send all our pre-employment and post-accident drug screens out.  There are so many rules and regulations down to which form you have to use, it isn't even funny.  The drug testing is not in my area of expertise--I just happily collect the thing, hope I don't screw it up, and send it on its way.  I do know that we usually do a "split" specimen in case these things happen, but in your case a GC/MS should be definitely done.   It is much more specific and would be able to tell the difference between, for example THC and Sustiva.  The only one I am aware of that does that is the Sustiva, but there could be more. 
« Last Edit: March 20, 2007, 07:43:39 PM by Coffeechick88 »
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Offline motherinneed

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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2007, 09:15:44 PM »
I've had dozens of drug tests. I'm a truck driver. They put it through a more sensitive test. They can tell exactly what the drug is but are not allowed to reveal anything to your employer except for what is being tested for i.e. marjuana, heroin,meth etc..

Shepsmom,
thank you for sharing this knowledge as my son was thinking he would not be able to get another job if he had to go through the urine test. He was sure that if he had to reveal he was HIV due to the urine test that he would not have a chance getting the job due to "hidden" discrimination by the employer.  So I guess to reveal a person's diagnosis to an employer would be a violation of patient's rights, yes???

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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2007, 12:32:41 AM »
I work for the airlines, our tests are pretty extensive.  NO ONE KNOWS what drugs I take and I have never popped a poz on a drug test.  However, they just do pee tests, maybe blood testing is different.
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Offline Cheo63

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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2007, 03:37:02 AM »
Hi Motherinneed,

I applied for a job in a big corporation where they required a background check and a drug test.  I too was nervous but it went well.  It was a urine test.  I told the person that I was on medications (didn't tell him which) and if he needed to know.  He said no.  He said that labs usually can tell when its medications versus street drugs.  So, I wouldn't be too worry.  I've been there now for 2 years.

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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2007, 10:42:02 AM »
After reading the post yesterday... I got all worried and called my DR right away.  He assured me that it is possible to test "positive" for 420. even thought it is not an acurate result.  he was kind enought to give me a letter statting that I was on Medication that has proven to give a false reading for 420. if there was a problem and needed more help to call them and they would take care of it. nothing was mentioned in the letter about status, and I know they never would disclose either...
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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2007, 11:35:19 AM »
efavirenz (sustiva, atripla) can cause a false positive on urine tests - specifically, a positive for marijuana use. as far as i'm aware, this only affects the cedia dau multilevel THC assay, manufactured by DuPont..& possibly the DrugCheck5 test used by some us prisons.

a follow up confirmatory blood test, or use of another urine test  would make clear that the result was false.

there's some good info here about drug screens, & the meds which can affect them/ yr legal rights etc.

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Offline Moffie65

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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2007, 12:16:03 PM »
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the mid '80's, while I was still working for Eastman Kodak; I was observant of one thing that has yet to be studied, and yet to be confirmed, so one needs to say it is an observation.  Most of the people that I watched die, were people that were riddled with stress and worry over one thing or another, and many passed with wasting, and other disorders connected with eating, and stress.  Those I watched who were users of the green weed, tended to cope a bit better, and were able to eat enough and keep it down, to keep the weight on and stay relatively healthy without medications; which of course were not available. 

Noting this, I worked at Kodak, while also dreaming and planning ways I could move through this HIV life and still have the option of using the green.  Starting a business is not something that should be taken lightly and I had some background for starting one, but of course there is never enough learning.  I decided to go into the trucking business and bought a Kenworth, went to driving scool and landed a job moving furniture.  I lost my butt financially with the business, but what I learned in 18 months of owning the truck, taught me a lifetime of lessons about being independent, while living with HIV.  Testing was not part of the picture at this time, especially for those who were owner drivers.

All this is leading up to the suggestion that you maybe guide your son to think about self employement.  It is one of the best ways to navigate this HIV life, because it does leave you with many options that you would ordinarily not have.  It is very important that he go to some school to learn the basics and nature of private business, but most of us have some talent that we can convert into income of some sort.  The only moniker to this is to make sure that he understands the system of care that is set up for those in poverty.  He will have to access Ryan White if you live in the U.S., or other social support systems in your country.  The green is one thing that has made my 23.5 years with this disease bearable at times, and many times has helped me have the appetite I needed to eat a meal.  (like last night).  It is terrible that one of the most efficatious drugs on the planet for pain and appetite is "against the law, and has been since the thirties".  Like man can outlaw something of God's creation......  Duh.

I am not advocating drug use here, only a suggestion to broaden our view to self support, therefore letting us make more sane decisions about how we handle our own survival.

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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2007, 06:11:34 PM »


Q1:
Would Xanax show up in the test?


Q2:
What is a 420?


Q3:
What is GC/MS?


Q4:
Let's say I go in and get a hair test (i.e., they take a clipping of my air to drug test) and I fail to put down Atripla as a medicine (which is what I'm currently on) and it comes back positive (i.e., a false positive) can it be retaken.

Or it sounds like the best thing to do is list that I'm on Atripla and due to privacy reasons the lab can not notify my employer.

Q5:
Do I have to specifically tell the lab to run a different test?
« Last Edit: March 22, 2007, 07:57:16 PM by jordan »
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Offline Coffeechick88

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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2007, 08:56:34 AM »
Q1:  Most likely yes--Most drug panels include the benzos.  As a benzodiazapene, Xanax would show up.  If for some reason they don't test for benzos, then it would be no.  But either way, as long as you can provide a prescription and you aren't buying it on the street, they shouldn't be able to do anything to do.  Though, some jobs you might need proof (such as a doctor's note) that you wouldn't be impaired--you know to cover them if you will be working around machinery or something, but then again they might not care.  I think the main thing is as long as you can prove you can function and aren't abusing xanax, then you should be fine.
Q2:  Someone else would have to take that one.
Q3:  GC/MS is more specific than the screening test and a big use is for confirming positives on drug screens.  We use them for pre-employments or doctors may order them for their drug patients--especially those on methadone, because many of those methadone users tend to turn around and sell them when they get on it, so they make sure they are taking the meds.
Q4:  I would say the best thing to do is list it.  I wish I could tell you more about the hair testing.  I am in the lab, but my area of expertise doesn't fall in toxocology.
Q5:  I would just ask the lab.  As far as I know the usual procedure is to automatically confirm positives, but it may not be.  (Anyone who knows more about this area can correct me.)  I think just to be safe, I'd ask and they would certainly be able to tell you.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2007, 08:59:09 AM by Coffeechick88 »
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Offline jordan

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Re: JObs that require drug testing
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2007, 10:52:46 AM »


Thanks for the feedback Coffeechick88.  I suppose they just want to confirm you aren't doing illegal drugs (e.g., Ecstasy, pot, cocaine) in which case I would pass with flying colors  8)

Bottom line is they can not deny you if you are on HAART medicines correct?

Peace,

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