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Offline ACinKC

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Re: very scared
« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2007, 06:49:27 PM »
Swishing precum with cold water (which sounds like an odd choice of a drink) has an adverse effect on HIV it contaminates it and dilutes it even further.  Colitis will not delay your production of antibodies.

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Re: very scared
« Reply #51 on: April 05, 2007, 01:00:01 PM »
Hey everybody,

My results are not in yet!!  I'm freaking and I have had a persistant soar throat for god knows how long!  I seriously am convinced now!  I know oral carries low risk but I don't have the best oral health and I only had a 2nd generation test done at 5 weeks..and now I have colitis, soar throats, constant colds, yeast infections, weight loss..  it's just too much! 

What's the difference between 2nd generation and 3rd? and why does everybody keep telling me that it would probably be a false negative b/c antibodies don't show up in 5 weeks on an ELISA?

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Re: very scared
« Reply #52 on: April 05, 2007, 01:56:18 PM »
please,

A persistant sore throat after oral activities would be more indicative of gonorrhea or one of the other bacterial STIs. Get your throat swabbed for gonorrhea. Of course, it could be an ordinary sore throat. See your doctor about it and your other problems as well.

The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks, with the average time to seroconversion being only 22 days. I do not expect your negative result to change.

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Re: very scared
« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2007, 04:45:00 PM »
Thanks Ann,

I did get my throat swabbed for all STI's and a syphillis test.  All negative.  This happened a year ago and I keep getting persistant soar throats.  Is this a sign of HIV?

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Re: very scared
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2007, 04:52:24 PM »
Persistent sore throats are not a sign of HIV.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

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Re: very scared
« Reply #55 on: April 05, 2007, 04:55:39 PM »
please,

It's nothing to do with hiv. Go get your conclusive negative hiv test so you can move on with your life.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: very scared
« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2007, 12:21:19 PM »
Hello experts,

My test results are still NOT IN!!  I'm pretty stressed out.  I read that colitis is caused by an infection and causes your immune system to go crazy.  I also read that it is common in HIV + individuals (especially early in infection)  Is this true?  I am scared beyond belief!  Also, I know you say symptoms do not mean anything but would I be experiencing all these symtoms a year in?  I'm scared that a 5 wk was a week too soon on a second generation.  The nurse said 2-8 weeks its 90% accurate and 3 months is 99.9% Please help ease my mind.  Again, I am sorry for being annoying...my head won't shut up!

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Re: very scared
« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2007, 12:34:42 PM »
Hello experts,

My test results are still NOT IN!!  I'm pretty stressed out.  I read that colitis is caused by an infection and causes your immune system to go crazy.  I also read that it is common in HIV + individuals (especially early in infection)  Is this true?  I am scared beyond belief!  Also, I know you say symptoms do not mean anything but would I be experiencing all these symtoms a year in?  I'm scared that a 5 wk was a week too soon on a second generation.  The nurse said 2-8 weeks its 90% accurate and 3 months is 99.9% Please help ease my mind.  Again, I am sorry for being annoying...my head won't shut up!

Your colitis has nothing to do with HIV, which we have told you time and time again.  I sense you next will be asking us if your 5 week negative test is accurate enough, so Im going to go ahead and answer that now.  For you YES.  If you want to test at 3 months for your own piece of mind then do it.  If HIV was wreaking this kind of havoc on your body there is no way you would test negative.  Which you will. 

Do try and move on.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

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Re: very scared
« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2007, 12:43:09 PM »
Thanks for responding AC, but that's what I'm scared of.  Testing positive now b/c 5 weeks was too soon and when I had that test I didn't have colitis , yeast infections, etc...it only started afterwards.   I know you say for me it was conclusive but I could be that low risk chance so how can it be conclusive?  Doesn't the 12 week apply for everybody?  I know I sound crazy but I just can't stop thinking about it, especially with all this info about false negatives before 3 wks, reccuring yeast infections, colds, colitis, weight lose...I am convinced and scared beyond words.  Why does it state that colitis is a manifestation of HIV on the body?   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

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Re: very scared
« Reply #59 on: April 09, 2007, 01:05:27 PM »
Why didnt you wait to take the test then?  Why even bother with the 5 week test if you are going to throw the results out the window?

It states that people that have HIV get colitis.  But people withOUT HIV get colitis too.  I am HIV+ and I get headaches, that doesnt mean that if you start getting headaches that you have HIV.  There are hundreds of reasons you get a headache and quite a few more than just one reason to have colitis.

You had a no risk event.  Blow jobs and frottage do NOT transmit HIV.  Do you realize how many people come on this board thinking they are the ONLY one that this type of transmission will ever happen to? It isnt you, just as it wasnt them!

You should be talking to your Dr about your symptoms.  They are NOT related to HIV.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

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Re: very scared
« Reply #60 on: April 09, 2007, 01:22:41 PM »
<< Why does it state that colitis is a manifestation of HIV on the body?>>

Well, since HIV causes a general meltdown of the immune system, sinusitis is also a manifestation. So is acne, dermatitis, certain cancers, et al. Given that an impaired immune system is more prone to ANY infections, it stands to reason that ANY infection *in an HIV infected person* might be caused, or at least exacerbated by, the depletion of the immune system.

Which is why it's never a good idea to try and diagnose through symptoms. Because they are as unique as the individuals who suffer them.

Your situation was not something that I would consider worth testing over, much less giving all the anxiety you seem to be having over it.

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Re: very scared
« Reply #61 on: April 09, 2007, 01:58:24 PM »
would I be experiencing all these symptoms a year later?  Or are these later stages of HIV?  Manifestations...do they happen this soon after infection?

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Re: very scared
« Reply #62 on: April 09, 2007, 02:00:12 PM »
also...I took a test at 5 weeks because some ppl say that it will probably show detectable antibodies and now I hear more ppl state that the chance of getting a false neg is pretty high at 5 weeks after..  I'm just confused, that's all and very freaked out.

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Re: very scared
« Reply #63 on: April 09, 2007, 02:04:32 PM »
A year later?  How can they be a year later if you are testing at 5 weeks post exposure?  This makes no sense, but then again Im not surprised. You are NEGATIVE.

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Re: very scared
« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2007, 02:10:19 PM »
My exposure was April 14, 2006..last year.  I took a test 5 weeks after that and it was negative.  The nurse told me that it was low risk and wouldn't even bother testing again at 3 months so I didn't.  However, I have not stopped thinking about it for a year now!!  Convinced that I am the small percentage and to be honest, chicken shit to get another test done.  So yes, I will be conclusive after this next test but that's why I am here asking for your advice and knowledge.  It's been a year since the oral episode, I tested 5 weeks after that..neg and scared shitless to get my final results.  A year later I have all these crazy symptoms. 

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« Reply #65 on: April 09, 2007, 02:15:53 PM »
Gotcha.  So you are waiting on the results from this last one.

Well, all I can say to that is, nothing between now and the time you get the results will change those results.  I fully expect your test to be negative.  In the meantime while you wait for your results, try to stop with the what if scenarios and all the symptom questions.  It really won't affect your outcome one way or the other and does nothing but help to fuel your anxiety.

i hope that when you get this next negative result you will be able to put this issue to rest, and move on with your life.  If you find you are unable to do that I would suggest seeking the help of a therapist to help you with your anxiety.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

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Re: very scared
« Reply #66 on: April 09, 2007, 04:48:27 PM »
Thanks AC.  So, do you experts base your opinion on my risk (considered low) or my 5 wk neg?  Because he could have been newly infected with a high Viral load and I could have had cuts and bad gums and he had a lot of precum.  Also, we were drinking and my mouth was super dry.  Don't these factors make the risk higher combined with my "symptoms"  Are these specific cells even found in your mouth?

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Re: very scared
« Reply #67 on: April 09, 2007, 05:33:45 PM »
We base our opinion on 25 years of data.  That data combined with your encounter (which is EXCEEDINGLY low almost to the point of non-existent) AND your 5 week negative test all come together to give us a complete picture of your situation.  Your situation is like thousands that have come here before you, convinced they are one of the few to be infected in this manner and they never have been in my recollection. 

None of the factors you indicate make in any more likely or less likely that you have HIV.  Again, nothing at this point will change the result your about to get.  Which I again FULL EXPECT TO BE NEGATIVE.  I cant say that enough.

LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

 


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