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Offline milker

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cancer patients
« on: March 22, 2007, 11:57:03 PM »
Cancer is so present, and hits so many people, how come scientists were able to save people from HIV and let them live for 43.5 years, but cancer patients have only few years or months to live?

Cancer is not a virus I guess, and that's where the problem is. But let's say X is infected with the HIV virus and Z has bone cancer. Z will die in 2 years, whereas X will have decades of life.

My mum and my dad died of cancer. What's special about cancer? It's not a virus; how did we figure out how to stop HIV infection so that people can live for 40 years with it, but we're not able to figure out how to stop cancer cells?

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Offline aupointillimite

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Re: cancer patients
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2007, 12:39:33 AM »
There are dozens and dozens of different types of cancer.  And since each is really the patient's own unique cells going haywire, there are a lot more variables that can trip up treatment.
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Offline AlanBama

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Re: cancer patients
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2007, 10:23:35 AM »
My parents both died of cancer too, Milker.

When I give my family history to a new doctor, they always give me "that look"....you know, the look that says "this guy has AIDS, Congestive heart failure, and both his parents died from cancer....hmmmm"
"Remember my sentimental friend that a heart is not judged by how much you love, but by how much you are loved by others." - The Wizard of Oz

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Re: cancer patients
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2007, 07:23:33 PM »
Milker,
   I too am confused at times about this very same thing. After being HIV for 19 years and doing quite well too I might add. The big C came along this past November, and reminded me quite graphically that just because I have HIV, doesn't mean that it is what's going to kill me. And considering the most recent doctors visit I had two days ago, it's likely to be much much sooner than later, unless things change, about a year. ON one of my posts on this subject I likened having both HIV and Cancer to the Alien versus Predator movie. In this particular horror show though, it's real, not a movie. Looks like the Alien will win this round. Oh well, win some, lose some, no other way to look at it really.

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Offline milker

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Re: cancer patients
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2007, 07:55:17 PM »
CaptCarl I'm sure you will fight this as well as the HIV

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Milker (taking a deep breath after reading this post)
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

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Offline cullens888

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Re: cancer patients
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2007, 08:19:16 PM »
I gave my family history at the hiv clinic I go and have since had to get a colonoscopy. :'( I had 3 uncles and my grandfather die from colon cancer. My dad had to have part of his colon removed about 4 years ago.. The test on me came back clean, but was the most embarrassing moment of my life along with the chlamydia test with the Q-tip in my pee hole. :'(

Offline CaptCarl

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Re: cancer patients
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2007, 11:21:59 AM »
When I had my Colonoscopy, they assured me that I wouldn't feel or remember a thing. I told the doctor that wasn't very fair of him, after all here I'm going to have the closest thing to sex in years, and I won't remember it? That's just wrong. He didn't appreciate the joke...

Capt Carl  who frequently wonders if certain people have had their sense of humor surgically removed.
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Offline SASA39

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Re: cancer patients
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2007, 02:00:07 PM »
Uncle skin cancer  +`83
Father lung cancer +`87
Mother lung cancer +`98
Aunt breast cancer - cured `96  +`00
Sister (uncle ) breast cancer +`03

I`m a male (breast c. ) not smoking (lung ) but nevertheless I`m still frightened because I have seen how creepy could it be.
YES - HIV/AIDS raises chances for cancer because it destroy cell and medications also..............
And YES doctors gave me that look also..............just slightly up eyebrows look
a look that frightened me.......................... ???   :-\

And  in Serbia we do not even have a specialist proctologist for + patients and no one else would not deal with us because of fear of loosing non HIV patients.................
                       
Al
Oct.     `06.  CD4=58  ?    %       VL not perform. ?!?
25.Dec.`06.         203       14        VL= 0
29.May.`07.    broken device        VL=1363
20.June`07     broken device        VL=0
25.Dec `07  CD4=582                  VL=70
14.May `08  CD4=448
29.July `08                                  VL=0
26.Nov `08  CD4=674                    VL=179
16.Mar `09  CD4=554                    VL=0
19.Jan`10 CD4=715               
03.Mar`10                                    VL=0
24.Aug`10 CD4=524                     VL=0
04.Dec`10 CD4=626                     VL=0
15.Sep`11                                   VL=93
17.Nov`11                                   VL=0
05/26 .Jul`12 CD4=713                 VL=0
28.Nov`12 CD4=916                     VL=0
09.May`13                                 VL=0

 


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