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Offline jjhelpme

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need rational backup
« on: March 08, 2007, 09:55:38 PM »
I received a lap dance from a stripper.  I groped her nipples a bit, they were pierced.  I also grabbed her ass.  She was wearing a g-string.  I don't have any broken skin on my hands that I can see.  She got her chest pretty close to my face but a didn't touch her with my mouth.  My face and head were a little sweaty.  She ground into me enough to cause me to ejaculate in my jeans.  Am I in any danger of an STD?  Does any of this make sense?

Offline scared1111

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2007, 10:50:56 PM »
i know I'm no position to give anyone advice but even i could say that you didn't have no risk

Offline Coffeechick88

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2007, 10:56:02 PM »
Nope, no risk.
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Offline Central79

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2007, 05:28:03 AM »
No risk. Take 5 minutes to read the welcome thread and the HIV transmission lessons:

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0

Believe me, it's worth it.

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29/1/07 - 1,020 (27.5%), VL 46,500
15/5/07 - 1,140 (22.8%), VL not done.
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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2007, 07:30:42 AM »
scared,

That's correct, you are in no position to give advice on this forum. Please keep all your additional thoughts or comments in your OWN thread, please. And make sure you read the forum posting guidelines in our Welcome Thread. Thank you for your cooperation.

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2007, 07:35:26 AM »
jj,

Hiv is not spread through casual contact, it's primarily spread through unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Make sure you use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Offline jjhelpme

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2007, 08:21:47 PM »
Do I need to test over this incident?  I groped her buttocks and breasts.  I never saw and blood, nor any breaks in the skin on my hands.  My head was sweaty and I had some shaving nicks on my neck.  As far as I remember her chest only brushed by my face.

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2007, 08:48:46 PM »
Start reading your replies you are given, instead of asking more questions. Ann gave you the answers in her reply to you.

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2007, 09:51:55 PM »
JJ, the only real risk in what you have reported is that it makes clear how unknowing you are about HIV transmission as well as STDs in general.

Aside from getting some messy shorts and sploogy jeans nothing you did put you at risk for HIV nor for any other STD. Stop coming up with more totally irrelevant questions and get busy reading the lessons on Transmission and Testing. You'll get all the basics about HIV there.

It seems to me that you're probably fairly inexperienced sexually. If I am right about that, exploring things sexually is both exciting and it also can be very anxiety provoking. Follow what the lesson says about HIV prevention.

There is absolutely no need for HIV testing nor for further concern on your part about this incident.

Cheers,
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Offline jjhelpme

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2007, 05:24:10 PM »
It's been about 12 days since the incident at the strip club.  I've had a sore throat and some aches in my armpits.  I'm really scared.

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2007, 05:31:01 PM »
Yah, yah, yah.

And if you had read the lesson on transmission you'd have gotten that neither the presence nor the absence of symptoms is ever the way to know about your HIV status when you've had a genuine risk like unprotected intercourse.

But you haven't had such a risk or any risk at all actually. Discuss your symptoms with your doctor. Feelings aren't facts and your symptoms have absolutely nothing to do with HIV.

Really.
Andy Velez

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2007, 08:16:08 AM »
I have read the transmission lessons and want to believe that everything is OK, but the hotline I called in Alabama (here on business) told me that what happened was a high risk exposure. 

I was clothed for the lap dance.  She was wering a g-string.  I fondled her but and nipples (which were pierced).  I never saw any blood or other fluids.  I did ejaculate in my jeans.

How can there still be conflicting info at this point?

Do I have any risk?

Offline Andy Velez

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2007, 08:42:45 AM »
Well, if you keep allowing your anxiety to rule the day and keep on sussing out other sources, believe me you are going to get people to tell you incorrect stuff to feed your worst fears.

For someone to tell you that you were at high risk is absolutely ludicrous. I can only shake my head at such nonsense.

We've given you the real deal. You were absolutely not at risk. As far as I am concerned this really about the circumstances of the incident and your feelings about that. There was in no way any risk of HIV in that situation, but shame and anxiety which guys often feel about sexual situations, well that's another story altogether.

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2007, 11:47:37 AM »
I concur with Andy on this one.  Anyone who told you this was even a small risk should be canned.  I lapdance fully clothed is NOT a risk for HIV transmission.

No way no how do you need to test over that.
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Offline jjhelpme

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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2007, 11:46:42 PM »
Oh god, please help me.  It's been about 2 1/2 weeks since the incident. For the past few days, I've had a continued sense of urgency after urination.  I'm scared to death.  Am I doing this to myself?  Various sources have told me thee was no risk.  I don't know what to do.  How can I get an STD through my jeans and underwear?  What is wrong with me? 

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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2007, 02:42:16 AM »
Please re-read the answers which you have already been given.

You were at no risk for HIV (or anything else) from the incident that you described.

You did not get HIV or any other STD as a result of that incident.




Offline jjhelpme

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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2007, 12:45:07 PM »
I know this is a late reply to what many of you consider a dead topic, but please, I beg you to be patient.  To review, I had a clothed lapdance from a stripper early-March.  At the time I was on a temporary duty assignment and away from home.  I ejaculated in my jeans.  I never removed any of my clothing and the stripper was wearing a g-string.  I fondeled here bare nipples with my hands a bit (they were pierced).  At the time I noticed no fluid other that my sweat, and did not see any open cuts on my hands.  I got kind of freaked out and posted here, then I calmed down.  I had one instance of unprotected sex with my wife three weeks after the sripper incident. I thought everything was ok.  I then went on to training for an Iraq deployment and was away from home for 7 weeks.  During this time I received an HIV test which I assume was negative (since I'm in Iraq right now), the test was between 5 and 6 weeks after the lapdance.  At the end of the 7 weeks I went home on a four day pass before leaving the country.  I had unprotected sex with my wife 4 times.  It has now been 16 days since the end of the pass and my wife has told me she has got poison ivy.  She said she was pulling weeds a couple of days ago and thinks she got it on her hand, but she now has a rash on her chest scalp around the hairline, under her eyes and across her nose.  She also said she had diahrea and felt feverish last night.  I'm 5000 miles away and scared to death.  Could she have ARS/HIV.  I didn't think it was possible but her description of the rash and locations is so similar to what I've read about here http://www.patients.uptodate.com/topic.asp?file=hiv_aids/4460 and I don't know how poison ivy could have spread to so many places.  I need help.

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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2007, 01:46:56 PM »
Poison Ivy is spread very easily by touch, not like HIV which requires unprotected vaginal or anal intercourse for transmission. You did not have unprotected sex with the stripper (and you don't mention having shared IV drug equipment with her so I didn't even mention that potential cause), so you could not have infected your wife.

Sometimes a rash has very prosaic origins. Poison Ivy is a perfectly reasonable explanation to the issue. HIV is not. It's not even a remote possibility.

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Offline jjhelpme

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2007, 08:28:21 PM »
Can anyone else chime in on this.  I'm still petrified.  I can't think straight.  Could I have gotten HIV from a lapdance? 

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Re: need rational backup
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2007, 09:13:14 PM »
Reread the replies that you have been given.

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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2007, 06:25:08 AM »
jj,

Not one single person has EVER become infected through a lapdance and you certainly will not be the first. As Rodney suggested, re-read this thread as well as the Transmission Lesson. Hiv is not spread through casual contact and that is exactly what how a lapdance would be described.

NO RISK.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2007, 08:48:53 PM »
I want to believe you but I;m still scared.  I have no testing options here in Iraq that won't raise serious military complications, at least I don't think I do.  Would a home test be adequate?  Would the samples I sent in survive a mail-transit time possibly as long as 14 days and still be usable?  I can't find any good info.

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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2007, 08:51:36 PM »
JJ,

You don't need to fuss about serious military complications because you don't need to test. Nevertheless if you insist on having one of the home-type tests you should speak to the relevant test provider about the conditions under which the samples must be transported.

That said, you DON'T NEED TO TEST because YOU DIDN'T HAVE A RISK.

Ya dig?

MtD

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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2007, 05:04:54 AM »
jj,

Believe me, if you had a risk we'd tell you and we would be insisting you test. We aren't in the business of letting infections slip through the net. We are in the business of stopping this pandemic, not adding to it.

I'm wondering if you aren't focusing on this incident as a way of avoiding thinking about the other, very real, dangers you are facing on a daily basis in Iraq. Please don't let this non-issue (the lap-dance) distract you when you need to be keeping your wits about you.

Stop worrying about the lap dance - and take care of yourself. We want you and your mates home in one piece.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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