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« Last post by mecch on Yesterday at 08:42:34 PM »
A lot of these objections to a hefty minimum wage hike may be "valid" but overall I get the same feeling of inertia and disempowerment for change that kept the US from doing something towards universal healthcare, for about 2 decades after the workable model of employer-funded health care began to seriously break down and be inadequate by the early 90s. I am sure the wage issue, poverty, and income disparity will be issues in the next Presidential election and there is already talk that Obama might start the needed conversations during his second term.
Bush cancelled a visit to the Geneva UN a few years ago when activists were pressuring Geneva authorities to issue an arrest warrant, and arrest him, if he showed up.
« Last post by bocker3 on Yesterday at 08:17:51 PM »
Yes, let's. While I do agree that the minimum wage has lagged woefully behind -- it is illogical to think that any wage hike will lift all workers above the poverty line because it becomes a moving target (that was the main point, I believe, of Phil's post) - everyone talking "livable wage" ignores that reality.
And...... sometimes a company needs part-time workers for flexibility in scheduling, while maintaining efficiency in total staffing. Yes, some companies are using part-time workers to avoid benefits, but not all and not in all cases. I would never be onboard with the government mandating full vs. part-time employment "quotas".
I see someone else has already mentioned it -- income inequality is too large - we aren't going to impact that with a minimum wage hike. We need to address it, but not this way.
« Last post by RapidRod on Yesterday at 08:17:32 PM »
Thank you all,You didn't have an exposure and never needed an HIV test.
Usted me sugiere que no me haga un examen pues mi situación el riesgo no lo vale?
« Last post by wolfter on Yesterday at 07:43:00 PM »
Did we arrive at a date yet? Since I'm planning a duel vacation, I need to let my nephew know when to put in for vacation.
« Last post by HanselDvall on Yesterday at 07:42:44 PM »
Thank you all,
As a follow up. I got tested. Priliminary results show that I'm neg, and I'm still waiting for the conclusive ones a week from now. But...std results show that I got the bacteria of gonorrhea located in my throat, from that same encounter
How serious is this? Is it easily curable? I'm concerned. I'll be going this Monday for a shot and medications though. I do hope it erases that bacteria from my body
« Last post by RapidRod on Yesterday at 07:38:25 PM »
Raising the minimum wage is a simplistic fix to a complex problem. If a worker at Walmart is suddenly making $15.00 per hour, how much will a person in a skilled position demand? I'd guess it'd also almost double as the market will dictate what the position should pay.Exactly..
« Last post by phildinftlaudy on Yesterday at 07:35:58 PM »
Good article in Business Week:
oh and another one:
The fact is that raising minimum wage for fast food workers (for instance) to $15 an hour would result in a significant increase in the cost of the product to consumers.
BTW, in Australia - where minimum wage for workers at McDonald's is around $15 per hour, the price of a Big Mac combo is $9 USD. This same combo runs about $6 in the U.S. (http://www.expatistan.com/price/big-mac/sydney)(http://www.expatistan.com/price/big-mac/phoenix)
So, for a family of four: in Australia $9 x 4 = $36... in United States $6 x 4 = $24.... so the family will pay $12 more for that single meal for the family... I think that type of increase is going to prove more detrimental to the family even with a wage of $15....
In addition, it would result in adjustments needed in positions that are currently being paid $15 an hour outside of the fast food environment (See article for examples).
The result: Inflation
The result: Less retained earnings for companies means less expansion/growth
The result: Less dividends/returns for investors - means that investors go elsewhere to invest - so, once again - no expansion/growth, no investment in research and development for new products, etc.
There is definitely a balance that needs to be achieved. A living wage based on geographic cost of living makes sense..... Most of our fast food workers here in Miami make around $10 or more an hour - but cost of living is also much higher.
In my hometown in PA they are paid around $8 an hour (but cost of living is much lower)
Miami has an ordinance requiring workers be paid living wage - which is set around $10 an hour....
I think the California article makes a good point - as a business owner, if I have to further shrink profit margin (the one the actual franchisee makes - not corporate) - I will seek ways to shrink my workforce - automation would be the way to go.... have self-order kiosks, etc... So, the worker who wants to make the $15 an hour will now be completely out of a job (unless he/she goes to school to learn how to program/repair the kiosk... that probably pays higher than $15 an hour).
I still maintain that poverty is relative and that raising wages will only change our definition of poverty --- increasing the lower wage that constitutes poverty to a higher level - but it will still be poverty.
This is not to say that there are not severe disparities in income - but that is an issue outside of the minimum wage issue - as raising the minimum wage is not going to have an noticeable impact on the current income disparity situation in the U.S..
« Last post by mecch on Yesterday at 07:33:05 PM »
Also I don't think entire staffs of big store can possibly be mostly jobs valued at "minimum wage" or not so far above. There are real skills involved in doing such jobs and these skills do build up over time working at them. Cosco is making it work, paying more and progressively increasing salaries. It can be done.
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