one in three progress to AIDS in one year.

[BT65]

expect me to continue talking Randy and Jim ad nauseaum.

Seriously, you're telling the same group of people the same story over and over.  Don't you believe people's eyes glaze over when reading the same thing over and over?  Maybe it's best saved for your captive audiences in South Carolina.

[mecch]

Gee, I wonder? Why bother to test if you don't practice safe sex.

The point of this thread is that people have a benefit from testing because they discover they are positive.  

Half the people in this forum had many years of being HIV- until some fuck up.  

So, some of the people in here have had this experience - many years consistently HIV negative.  And because the testing is regular, they discover their seroconversion relatively rapidly.  Which is one of the main advantages being argued in this thread.  
 

[mecch]

Seriously, you're telling the same group of people the same story over and over.  Don't you believe people's eyes glaze over when reading the same thing over and over?  Maybe it's best saved for your captive audiences in South Carolina.

Leatherman uses his personal experience to think about things happening today.  Seems like all people do this and especially LTS - who reach into all those years of experience and pull out something that is not individual, but general, smart, and useful for others.

I never felt like Leather rattles old bones.  

edited:  I meant to say, reaches into individual experience - and reasons out something general to share with others.

[Raf]

Leatherman uses his personal experience to think about things happening today.  Seems like all people do this and especially LTS - who reach into all those years of experience and pull out something that is not individual, but general, smart, and useful for others.

I never felt like Leather rattles old bones.  

Me neither, it's nice to read and learn from his experience.

[leatherman]

I've never encountered a single person that believed what the two of you are claiming. Obviously I travel in different circles

working with my ASO this past couple of yrs doing peer counseling with new intakes, speaking in public, counseling those being tested, and working the health fair exhibition booth, I have really been amazed at what people believe who have not been immersed in the HIV/AIDS world. Not only do many people believe a trip to the ER with blood work will garner an HIV test in the mix; but quite often (as we see here in the fears of some of our newer members) many people believe either that an HIV diagnosis equals a fairly immediate death sentence or the other extreme that there are meds making the HIV diagnosis of little consequence.

[BT65]

Seems like all people do this and especially LTS - who reach into all those years of experience and pull out something that is not individual, but general, smart, and useful for others.

I'm a LTS also, but I don't rattle on and on about my dead first husband, or junkie ex-2nd husband, or my relationship with a woman.  I rarely share anything about my life. And if I do, I don't talk about it over and over until I'm blue in the face.  

I don't like continual showmanship, whether it's about relationships, or volunteer work.  It shows an over-inflated sense of importance, and is not attractive at all.  Nor are these stories totally unique. It's like a "look at how fabulous I am," and frankly, it gets tiring.

[leatherman]

Seriously, you're telling the same group of people the same story over and over. 

sorry but sadly new members arrive every day who know nothing about either you nor me.

Don't you believe people's eyes glaze over when reading the same thing over and over?  Maybe it's best saved for your captive audiences in South Carolina.

I will point out again that Matty brought up the topic of my partners not I.

Captive audience? Hardly. Today I worked for several hours at another summer festival, passing out HIV info, condoms, and testing information. I have three more events like that scheduled this month, along with a presentation at a monthly task force meeting, and a speech at an upcoming MSM HIV state conference. That's so far, as our prevention/education is always scheduling new events. I would imagine that just this month alone I'll speak with hundreds of South Carolinians who have never heard from me before.

I don't like continual showmanship, whether it's about relationships, or volunteer work.  It shows an over-inflated sense of importance, and is not attractive at all.  Nor are these stories totally unique. It's like a "look at how fabulous I am," and frankly, it gets tiring.

Actually that's just your misinterpretation of me and what I do. I never imagined that I would be close to turning 50 (as I figured the AIDS would off me before I reached 40), and yet here I am adding activist and advocate to my resume. If you want to interpret me discussing my goals and accomplishments after having AIDS for 20 yrs as some sort of over-inflated ego - perhaps its just jealousy on your part that you're not doing as much to help educate others and prevent the spread of HIV. Personally, I'm surprised you would diss me about such activities rather than encourage me to do as much as I possibly can.

All I see in your small-minded comments is another jaded member suggesting that some are allowed to speak about their personal experiences and others should not speak about theirs. perhaps as I counseled Matty, you should just skip my posts if my personal experiences that I choose to talk about bother you too much.

[mecch]

I'm a LTS also, but I don't rattle on and on about my dead first husband, or junkie ex-2nd husband, or my relationship with a woman.  I rarely share anything about my life. And if I do, I don't talk about it over and over until I'm blue in the face.  

Thats your choice.  If you were in a thread where the topic was being married to a junkie, you might want to actually share your own take on that. 

[Andy Velez]

Peeps, I am going to step in for a moment here. This thread includes many thoughtful responses. But it also has slipped into unnecesarrily rancorous snaps. Cut it out!

Stay on topic and leave out the judgement about who talks about what and how they do it. It's not pertinent to the subject.

Otherwise I am going to be forced to hand out some Time Outs.

Thanks for your cooperation.

[drewm]

sorry but sadly new members arrive every day who know nothing about either you nor me.

I, personally, prefer the sharing, give and take, back and forth in these forums. I took part ownership in this virus recently and learn something from those of you who have been here longer. I am continually fascinated by those here who want to shut the discussion down or restrict the content for one reason or another. Between all the snarky commentary on here, which there is no shortage of, all of us can learn something from each other.

[Jeff G]

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perhaps its just jealousy on your part that you're not doing as much to help educate others and prevent the spread of HIV.

To be fair BT65 has helped me many times but you will never hear her talking about it ... that's just the kind of person she is . I know personally that she helps people everyday but is not one to toot her horn about it .  

I apologise ... I posted before I saw the warning .

[Miss Philicia]

It's time for class lessons with Countess Luann!

[anniebc]

sorry but sadly new members arrive every day who know nothing about either you nor me.

New members do arrive here every day but hey come to seek our help and support they don't need to know the life stories of everyone here, all they need to know is they have our support...end of.

We all have stories to tell, but most of us don't feel the need to convince ourselves how wonderful we are by constantly talking about what we do, for example, I do more in a month than you do in a year but only a handful of people know about it...and they are the ones, the only ones that really matter.

[Rev. Moon]

It's time for class lessons with Countess Luann!

I prefer Nene Leakes, more apropos.

[Tim Horn]

Locked.