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Offline Oppera

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Being paranoid?
« on: October 03, 2011, 12:25:50 pm »
Facts: lap dance from stripper. Her, gstring. Me, jeans.

But my shirt wasn't tucked in and she rubbed against my tummy and belly button too

Also, she licked and sucked my nipple for a few seconds (maybe 10).  She said she had toothache and was sucking on ice. Could toothache have blood involved? Would melting ice dilute the cleaning effect of the saliva? A little freaked out.

Thanks

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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2011, 12:32:03 pm »
Oppera,

Yes, you are being paranoid in the extreme. Sexually speaking, the only confirmed risks for hiv transmission are unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse.

Hiv is NOT transmitted through skin to skin contact, even if that contact involves vaginal fluids.

Saliva is not infectious, so even if she licked you from head to toe you would not have been at risk.

You absolutely have NOT had a risk for hiv infection.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER A NO RISK LAPDANCE, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Offline Oppera

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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2011, 07:03:20 pm »
ThAnk you, Ann. Your words are reassuring. I hope to hear from some of the other knowledgeable posters on this board as well.

Truth is, I am married w kids. I would never, ever cheat on my wife, and I am ashamed of going. I feel like I am being paranoid, but I wanted to relay the facts and get your all's opinions.

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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2011, 08:58:21 pm »
You don't need to hear from anyone else. Ann has covered the issues for you thoroughly and clearly. You were not at risk.

What you did catch is a high case of guilt. You did what you did and it can't be undone. Do the smart thing, take a breath,accept that and let it go. Nothing you did put you at risk for HIV.

Move on with your life and in the future avoid situations which are going to make you feel badly afterwards is my suggestion.
Andy Velez

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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2011, 11:39:16 pm »
I am sorry you asked for more people to pipe in regarding this NO RISK event.

This sounds like guilt, not science, dictating your concerns. Moreover, it is an insult to those of us with HIV who deal with paranoid people every day. People who don't want us to be waiters and cooks. People who don't want us to be doctors and dentists. People who think HIV is spread through clothes, or sneezing, or mutual masturbation, or any other activities that define the human existence.

You live and work and love and breathe among us. The problem here is NOT us. Please don't let it be you.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Offline Oppera

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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2011, 08:17:53 am »
Guys, i really really want to believe you, but I've developed swollen glands around my neck. That never happens to me. And general achiness and what feels like some fever.

How is it you can be so sure there I no risk from my incident? I am convinced I am infected and having a hard time coping.

Could she have somehow forced blood into my nipple with pressure? How conclusive is a test at 2.5 weeks? I know not 100percent, but what, 90?

Please help me.

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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2011, 08:58:41 am »
Oppera,

Yes, you are being paranoid in the extreme. Sexually speaking, the only confirmed risks for hiv transmission are unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse.

Hiv is NOT transmitted through skin to skin contact, even if that contact involves vaginal fluids.

Saliva is not infectious, so even if she licked you from head to toe you would not have been at risk.

You absolutely have NOT had a risk for hiv infection.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER A NO RISK LAPDANCE, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann

Ann has covered it all for you here whether you believe it or not. Leave your lymph nodes alone. You can create a problem by squeezing and bothering them. Discuss them with your doctor. This is absolutely not an HIV situation. If you continue to return here about it you are very quickly going to find your yourself getting a Time Out from the site. There was no risk for HIV. Period.
Andy Velez

Offline Oppera

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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2011, 10:53:23 am »
Thank you, Andy. You are right of course.

I will take your advice and stop worrying about this silly thing. And you are right, I've been pushing and prodding my neck making it worse. I hadn't thought about that! You guys are great.

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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2011, 10:57:18 am »
OK. Get on with your life. And if  your nodes continue to bother you, discuss them with your doctor. Swollen lymph nodes happen for all sorts of non-HIV related reasons.
Andy Velez

Offline Oppera

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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2011, 07:07:30 am »
OK, please don't give me a time out for this post. I just wanted to report that I am going today for a test.

My neck, shoulders and head have continued to feel swollen, tender and hot for about ten days now. I've never had symptoms like these. I am praying it is stress or some other infection, but I fear the worst. This was absolutely my only point of exposure, so I hope you guys are right.

Locally, the anonymous test takes up to three weeks for results, but confidential is rapid test. I guess I will have to go with confidential. If the result is positive, I don't suppose that will matter much since I would need the results to start some medications, right?

Please wish me luck.

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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2011, 07:32:53 am »
OK, please don't give me a time out for this post. I just wanted to report that I am going today for a test.

My neck, shoulders and head have continued to feel swollen, tender and hot for about ten days now. I've never had symptoms like these. I am praying it is stress or some other infection, but I fear the worst. This was absolutely my only point of exposure, so I hope you guys are right.

Locally, the anonymous test takes up to three weeks for results, but confidential is rapid test. I guess I will have to go with confidential. If the result is positive, I don't suppose that will matter much since I would need the results to start some medications, right?

Please wish me luck.
Move along, you didn't have an exposure and you don't need any test.

Offline Oppera

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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2011, 09:41:11 pm »
The test came back negative. I will follow up at 6 and 12 weeks to make sure, but I wanted to return to thank you all for your reassurances. Without your voices of reason to counteract the irrational thoughts, The wait would have been even harder.  Thank you.

I still need to figure out the fever and uncomfortable neck glands, but I know that if they WERE HIV related, the test would have been positive. This goes a long way to allay my concerns.

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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2011, 09:48:39 pm »
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Re: Being paranoid?
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2011, 07:50:32 am »
Opp,

YOU do not "need to figure out the fever and uncomfortable neck glands", you need to let a doctor figure it out. You cannot diagnose yourself, so stop trying. All you're doing is adding 2+2 and coming up with five million. Stop it.

And stop wasting resources with further testing. You do NOT have hiv!

You absolutely did NOT have a risk for hiv infection. Keep coming back to wring your hands over this NO RISK lapdance and you WILL be given that time out you've been warned about.

PLEASE CONSIDER YOURSELF WARNED FOR THE LAST TIME!

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE!!!

Ann
Condoms are a girl's best friend

Condom and Lube Info  

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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