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A week ago I went to a strip club I got a lap dance I was very drunk. I remember grabbing the ladies breasts and her telling me not to touch them. A week later I started freaking out that I might of licked or touched the ladies vagina. I don't remember doing this, but my mind is freaking out. Do I need to be tested was there any risk I have a girl friend and dont want to put her at risk. I told her about the incident. I am still freaking out about if I could have licked the ladies vagina is this a risk. Can I just forget about the whole thing please help I am going nuts.
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I can tell you from what I learned it isn't that easy to transmit. For now before the other experts reply I suggest you read the lessons located at a link on the top menu.
My situation was actually having protected sex with abrasions.....I am assuming that is what you are worried about....
http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=868.0
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no I did not have any sex. Just freaking out I might have quickly licked the ladies vagina or touched with the finger. I'm going crazy cause these thoughts came into my mind a week later. I did not have sex. Just got a lap dance
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what do you mean by you might have quickly licked the ladies vagina or touched with the finger? You cannot recall?
Take a deep breathe and read the lessons above. I can say that it seems to be extremely difficult to transmit the virus and I think once you read the lessons above your mind will stop racing. I reserve my opinion for the experts. Happy reading....
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You can also read what Ann has already said about the subject here:
http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=4944.0
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will an expert please reply I just want to forget about this
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please let me know if i can forget about this
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You did not have a risk.
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Prince,
Getting a lapdance, grabbing breasts and/or licking a vagina are not risks for hiv infection.
Unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse are the things that are risks. Please read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) and follow the Transmission Lesson link so you can learn what is and what isn't a risk for hiv transmission.
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.
Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.
Nothing you report is a risk for hiv infection. Use condoms for intercourse and you will avoid hiv. It really is that simple!
Ann
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If I preformed oral sex on a female stripper should I test did I have any risk or can I just forget about it and go on with life I am freaking out
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That is no risk. Please read the welcome thread for more info.
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no testing then
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Prince,
I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.
If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.
Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.
Please re-read the earlier part of your thread. You were already told that going down on a woman is not a risk for hiv infection.
Ann
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One last question what if the stripper was a transexual who had a sex change and there was only a vagina. Would there still be a risk with cunnilingus.
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What If?
Don't even go here with the what ifs.
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what if it was a transexual and there was no penis just a vagina would that make it a risk
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please just give an answer
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Prince,
Please be patient. We all have lives to attend to and we can't sit at our computers 24/7.
It doesn't matter if the person was transsexual or transgender or whatever.
You didn't have a risk.
Ann
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If there are traces of blood or a woman is starting or ending her period is cunnilingus still not a risk. Do you not need to test for cunnilingus even if there might have been some blood.
Cunnilingus=no risk? therefore no test?
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is this something I can foget about and move on or do i need a test
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Yes, I AM Supporting You
Hey Prince23...
Was there any unprotected sex involved?
Enjoy your Holiday Season and Thank you for sharing.
"Don't You Dare Give Up, Don't You Dare Give In... Cause it is ALL within you to WIN!"
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no intercourse just cunnilingus
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Yes, I AM Supporting You
Hey Prince23...
OK, from what I understand here, you were performing an oral simulation of the vagina or clitoris. In this case, there have been no cases reported where you can become infected with HIV from oral sex.
Enjoy your Holiday Season and Thank you for sharing.
"Don't You Dare Give Up, Don't You Dare Give In... Cause it is ALL within you to WIN!"
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even if there could have been some small amount of blood?
I can just forget about this?
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hello
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Yes, I AM Supporting You
Hey Prince23...
There has been no reported cases where someone has contracted HIV from ORAL Sex.
Enjoy your Holiday Season and Thank you for sharing.
"Don't You Dare Give Up, Don't You Dare Give In... Cause it is ALL within you to WIN!"
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Prince,
This is the second time I've had to merge your threads. Pleaes read the Welcome thread as you have been asked to and get with the program.
You've already been told, repeatedly, that going down on a woman is not a risk for hiv infection. You yourself admitted that you don't even know if you went near the woman's genitals with your mouth. All this speculation is a waste of your time and energy.
Ann
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Please just say yes or no and I will forget about it?
If there could have been small traces of blood cause a stripper is either starting or stopping her period and you go down on her is this still no risk.
I want to throw it away and forget about it and not test. Let me know. Andy help
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NO, and as you said, that was your last question.
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no? as in no risk
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hello
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help
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Prince,
Do you think that none of us have anything better to do with our days than answer the same question from you over and over and over again? Don't use PMs to nag people about replying in your thread. We can remove your PM privileges you know.
No as no risk, as in going down on a woman is not a risk for hiv infection. If there's blood involved you're at a much higher risk for hepatitis infection - but hiv, unlikely.
Do you seriously think a woman on her period is going to be dripping with blood while working as a lap dancer? They either don't work when they're on or they use tampons. You didn't have a risk during your lap dance. End of story.
If you insist on continuing to come here to wring your hands over your lap dance, you will be given a time out.
Ann
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sorry ann but I suffer from ocd with small trace of blood it would be unlikely or no risk. Does unlikey refer to dripping blood. I just want to make sure there was no risk
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Prince,
From what you told us, "I remember grabbing the ladies breasts and her telling me not to touch them." I think you'd know if you tried to lick her as well. She probably would have slapped you and you'd have a sore cheek to remember it by.
This is not an OCD website. I suggest you go and get yourself some face-to-face help with this. If I have to give you a time out to encourage you to do this, I will. This is the last warning you will get.
You did NOT have a risk for hiv infection during anything - real or imagined - that happened during your lapdance/strip club experience. NO RISK.
Ann
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I was here recently and I got over that. I am going nuts. I went back to a strip club and got two lap dances. I was fine when I left. The next day I played basketball for a while and did not shower. Then later I grabbed my balls and smelled them. I became scared cause I thought I smelled a odor similar to vagina. I have ocd and started freaking out, because a button on my jeans is always on done so I began thinking that my penis could have gone through the whole in my boxers and jeans and entered the vagina. I know this sounds irrational but was I at risk. Please let me know if I am nuts.
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You were absolutely not in any way at risk for HIV transmission during that lap dance experience.
Read the Transmission and Testing lessons on this site. There's a link to them in the Welcome thread which opens this section. You get all the basics there that you need to know about HIV.
This is not an HIV situation. Period. End of story.
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Prince,
This is the third time I've had to merge your threads. Do you even bother to read the responses you get? Because you don't seem to be taking anything on board at all.
Stop starting new threads.
Sweaty genitals smell similar no matter who they belong to. You didn't have a risk for hiv infection during a lapdance.
Ann
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Guys I have tried to get over this, but I cannot get over the smell. Every time I check my sweat on my crotch it never smells that same way. I know this is crazy.
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will someone respond please
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If this is a problem for you discuss it with your doctor. We cannot diagnose symptoms here. What we can tell you is that not a symptom of HIV infection. Period.
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Andy sorry to confuse.
I went to a strip club a second time on december 26. I got two lap dances where the stripper had no bottoms on and rubs her crotch on my jeans. The next day I worked out during the the day. Later that night I smell sweat on my crotch and I thought I smell a vagina like odor. I became very freaked out because there is a button hole on my jeans which is unbuttoned so I obsessed that my penis could have gone through the hole and entered the womens vagina. This seems irrational. Recently I try to work out and sweat but my crotch odor never seems smell like vagina. I am freaking out. I want to let go of this but need to rationaliize it in my mind.
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You need to quit going to strip clubs if it causes you this kind of anxiety.
So your asking, did your penis "crawl out of" your jeans, without your knowledge and crawl INTO her vagina, again without your knowledge and if this is possible does your crotch then smell like a vagina for several weeks and finally does that smell mean you have HIV?
Are you kidding?
There is no way on this earth that happens.
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no the next day i thought i smelled vagina and now when I work out and sweat i do not smell that smell
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Does your penis frequently travel without your knowledge? Just curious.
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OK so to recap:
Nevermind. You dont have HIV in any way shape or form!!!
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If you are really that troubled by the various smells coming from your crotch, I simply would recommend more frequent bathing or something. This is not an HIV issue...not from what you describe. Seriously....the bathing and maybe changing clothes a bit more often. Sorry your crotch stinks so much. Best of luck with that.
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why would have my sweat smelled like vagina the day after. That is what is freaking me out and making me think my pnis might of come out
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Your sweat may or may not have smelled like a vagina. Crotch sweat kinda smells the same between the genders I would think.
You didnt have a risk. Your penis doesnt crawl out of your pants and into a vagina without your knowledge.
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I want to let this go but I try to smell my crotch sweat and it never gives off that smell now and I cannot let go
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It has nothing do with HIV and would appreciate you taking those questions to another forum. This is an HIV risk assessment forum.
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OK Prince, it's time to call a halt here. You had absolutely no risk for HIV transmission no matter what your head and your crotch smell are telling you to the contrary.
Discuss your hygiene issues with your doctor if you must. There's nothing we can do for you here and we're not going to continue to indulge you in these repetitious exchanges about an unfounded fear as far as HIV is concerned.
Consider yourself warned. If you come back with this stuff again you're going to get a Time Out.
This is not an HIV situation so stop wasting our time.
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I want to let this go but I try to smell my crotch sweat and it never gives off that smell now and I cannot let go
Prince, you aren't listening to anyone. Everyone has told you you have no risk for HIV from the encounters you have described. It sounds more like to me you have a substance abuse problem since you are having apparent black outs and can't recall your actions.
This is not an issue for an HIV website. My recommendation would also be that you find a forumn for people with similar disorders and potentially seek help for your substance abuse issues due to these black outs.
There are lots of live chat sites available for people suffering from OCD and other mental health issues. You will be able to speak with people who have your same fears and issues and hopefully that will lead you to get appropriate assistance including counseling from a professional qualified to determine the appropriate steps to help you.
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if my girlfriend's only risk is performing oral sex on male does she need to be tested. She is a virgin other then that. Can she just forget about being tested. She has never had sex just performed oral sex on a guy.
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Uh, let's not go Bill Clintonian here. Giving oral is a form of having had sex.
There has been some anecdotal evidence of transmission from giving a blow job. But there is much, much evidence that it's not a risk. There are longterm studies of sero-discordant couples who had lots of protected intercourse and lots of mutual unprotected oral. The results were that not a single sero-negative partner became infected.
As for getting tested, I don't see any need for it. To me it's about what your mutual comfort level is about the issue and the act as to whether to test or not.
I will caution you about condoms. You should be using them everytime for intercourse until if and when you are in a securely monogamous relationship in which BOTH partners test negative at the same. Then you can decide if you are serious about monogamy and whether to dispense with using condoms.
Cheers,
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even if she got some ejaculate in her mouth. She does not what to test and just wants to forget about it.
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Even with ejaculate in her mouth Andy's advice stands. It's a THEORETICAL risk at best. Use condoms every time and you will have no worries my friend.
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Prince,
This is the FOURTH time I've had to merge your threads! What is it you don't understand about not starting new threads? I'll give you the rundown one more time - follow the instructions next time you come here. Keep starting new threads and I'll give you a time out.
I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.
If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.
Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.
Ann
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so she does not need to test, because she has had no real risk
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Correct.
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Earlier I spoke about how I had a lap dance and the button my fly was undone and the next day I smelled vagina on my balls. I have been obsessing that my penis was pulled through the hole and into the womens vagina. Irrational but scary. I have tested at 70 days 10 weeks negavitive with oraquick advance. Is this result conclusive can i forget about this situation.
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You never had a risk to begin with so yes it would be conclusive.
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I apologize but the other night I went to a strip club and a stripper sat on my lap. Afterwards I touched where she sat on my jeans and smelled my hand. I thought I smelled her vagina odor on my hand. Is it possible the virus could have entered my body through a cut by my lip when my hand touched my face or through my nostrils. Sorry
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Prince, you need to read the lesson about transmission on this site. There's a link to it in the welcome thread which opens this section.
HIV is a fragile virus which is transmitted in very specific ways, essentially either unprotected vaginal or anal intercourse.
There was no risk whatsoever for transmission in your incident even IF the woman is HIV=.
Read the lesson. You are worrying needlessly.
Cheers,
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Prince
This has got to stop and right now. This is at least your second thread about lapdancers, crotchsmell and a few other irrational fears. You haven't had a risk in any of these adventures but if you can't believe that ask yourself why you continue to participate in these activities if you think it risky.
This isn't a support mechanism for your groundless fears, either get over it or get some help in dealing with these anxiety issues and stop creating a new thread everytime you feel the need to post.
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Prince, how many time do you have to be told, DO NOT START NEW THREADS? This will be the fifth time Ann will have to merge your threads. Go back to the "Welcome" thread and reread the guidelines on posting.
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Prince,
As Rodney said, this is the FIFTH time I've had to merge your threads. It is apparent to me that you are not hearing a word we say to you, whether we are telling you about hiv transmission or how this site works. We may as well be talking to a brick wall.
I'm giving you a time out - because there is no point us wasting our time when you don't read our responses. Since it is obvious you haven't bothered to read the Welcome thread like you've been repeatedly asked to, I'll quote the time out policy here.
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
I suggest you use your time out to seek counseling - and why don't you try reading your thread and actually taking note of what we've said? The answers aren't going to change.
Ann
PS - do not create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be banned permanently, no questions asked.