Author Topic: L.A. Center ad campaign: "AIDS is a gay disease" (Read 23555 times)

GSOgymrat · « **Reply #50 on:** October 05, 2006, 12:55:53 am »

You could just use the old ad that used to be on t-shirts back in the 80's. The one with the RAID insecticide can that says "AIDS kills fags dead". Then you could stir nostalgia and controversy at the same time.

There are lots of things you can say to be provocative but it doesn't necessarily lead to intelligent discussion or a change in attitudes or behavior.

Peter B · « **Reply #51 on:** October 05, 2006, 06:43:26 am »

I'd heard of the add and seen a headline here in South Africa saying "AIDS is a gay disease"... my personal opinion is that the add is utter CRAP, dangerous, and starting up antiquated beliefs again, and those saying that its true for where the add is placed in LA or where ever are damned naive if they really think the add will only be known there..... I'm in SA and its already been seen here, except we only read about the "aids is a gay disease" part. I'm stunned that people with brains on this site actually defend such total bullshit as this add!

AIDS effects everyone and anything stating the contrary for whatever purpose is just dumb and dangerous. I can not even begin to fathom some gay peoples want to "own" a disease that effects the human (ANY human) immune system!

Thats my opinion as a hetero South African and I don't particularly want to debate it, just giving my point of view, take it or leave it.

And that will most likely be my post for the next few months if not forever, hope everybody is well, expecially those i've known from this site since way back when it began....... and I liked it more then. I Don't feel like I remotely fit in anymore and this advert, and peoples defence of it is kind of why, seems like AIDSMEDS is now mostly meant for gay americans.... I have no problem with that tho and hope it serves you all well.... just not for me anymore!

Cheers
Peter B.

aztecan · « **Reply #52 on:** October 05, 2006, 08:12:10 am »

I tend to agree with Peter S regarding provacative ads.

A few years ago here in New Mexico, the state had a prevention campaign that included billboard of various types. The one that stuck in my mind, and still does to this day, was one of a corpse on a gurney, with the focus being on an exposed foot replete with toe tag.

The ad said something along the line of "HIV kills. Do you know your status?" or something like that.

It caused lots of controversy - and got people talking.

Isn't that what ads are supposed to do?

Mark

joemutt · « **Reply #53 on:** October 05, 2006, 08:23:16 am »

I feel the ad is trying to reach a target group but as an unfortunate result will stigmatise the target group again in the eyes of the general public opinion. a knife that cuts both ways, as it were. not really well thought-through.

alisenjafi · « **Reply #54 on:** October 05, 2006, 08:26:02 am »

I agree with people we should also point out that it is not a gay disease either, or just as controversial, have a bunch of 6 year olds, much like the campaign in NY where the question show a father and baby and asks,"would you love him/her less because she is gay?"

Moffie65 · « **Reply #55 on:** October 05, 2006, 08:52:45 am »

Quote from: Peter B on October 05, 2006, 06:43:26 am

I'd heard of the ad and seen a headline here in South Africa saying "AIDS is a gay disease"...

I'm stunned that people with brains on this site actually defend such total bullshit as this ad!

AIDS effects everyone and anything stating the contrary for whatever purpose is just dumb and dangerous.
Cheers
Peter B.

Thank you Peter!!

RapidRod · « **Reply #56 on:** October 05, 2006, 11:19:15 am »

You are making too much out of this ad? What does the first sentence say in the ad, after the lead in title? Does it, or does it not say, "OK, diseases don't have sexual orientation?" Then in the second sentence it says, "We know that HIV isn't just a gay disease." Then it gives the facts about gays and bisexuals have borne the blunt of it. That is a true statement, is it or is it not? Not only is that statement true for L.A., but all over. This is not a national ad, this ad is directed toward the people of L.A..So why are some of you reading more into this ad than what is there? They did not try to deceive anyone. I see nothing wrong with the ad at all and I believe it was well written.

Ann · « **Reply #57 on:** October 05, 2006, 12:23:26 pm »

Iggy,

Your totally uncalled for post has been removed. We will not tolerate that kind of thing here and if you do anything like that again, you WILL be given a time out. You were this close to one today. I trust you will heed this warning (and that everyone else will too). We do not want to give you a time out, but will if you become abusive again.

Ann

Iggy · « **Reply #58 on:** October 05, 2006, 12:32:23 pm »

RapidRod · « **Reply #59 on:** October 05, 2006, 04:18:45 pm »

Your point is still incorrect. If the above paragraph would have been printed in the same size font as their sponsored by. Then there would have been a possible point to deceive, but this wasn't the case. I'm farsided, and have astigmatism and that paragraph stood out like a sore thumb and I didn't have to use my glasses to read it. If news papers and other written documents would not have a Topic Line, people would over look the article. You can't say that you would read a news paper or article that didn't have a line to catch your attention and that is exactly what they did in this ad.

Iggy · « **Reply #60 on:** October 05, 2006, 06:01:35 pm »

RapidRod · « **Reply #61 on:** October 05, 2006, 09:35:35 pm »

Never mind Iggy, I can see you don't understand marketing concepts and there is no more use in discussing the issue.

Terry · « **Reply #62 on:** October 05, 2006, 09:49:04 pm »

This morning on local L.A. news channel and covered on CNN/Fox/MSNBC was an HIV positive forty-four y/o single mother of three, who was irate/furious over the ads that she and her children came across in the south of Los Angeles area. The ads claiming “AIDS is a Gay Disease.” Basically what she said was, how do I now explain to my children? That “No, because you’re not gay, doesn't mean you can’t get AIDS.” The other question, that her 14 year old asked her was “Mom, are you gay?”

Misinformation, for whatever reason or purpose is the wrong way to go for teaching people about HIV/AIDS. I do not agree with Peter’s rational (Getting gay men to take seriously the issue of HIV again will be a very hard nut to crack. I think a few shocking ads might get people talking again -- a necessary first step.) Most gay people that I’ve met do have a brain and most of them use it.

(Sexually, Gay’s might be foolish/promiscuous/careless) but most know exactly what they are doing.

For the past ten or more years, Gay-bashing has become an extremely popular sport among our fellow citizens and especially our elected officials. To label AIDS as a gay disease is to put the advances that we’ve made as a community back to way before the Stonewall Rebellion of 1969.

Quote from: Peter B on October 05, 2006, 06:43:26 am

And that will most likely be my post for the next few months if not forever, hope everybody is well, especially those I've known from this site since way back when it began....... and I liked it more then. I Don't feel like I remotely fit in anymore and this advert, and peoples defence of it is kind of why, seems like AIDSMEDS is now mostly meant for gay Americans.... I have no problem with that tho and hope it serves you all well.... just not for me anymore!

Cheers
Peter B.

Peter B.

I agree with you somewhat. But changes can be good. This site is definitely not the same as it was years ago. It’s now more gay friendly than it is actually about AIDS and health issues. But please don’t go and hide again. The experiences that you share might just help someone who needs the help. Just ignore the crap. The tantrums and childish egotistical behavior like that above, just skip over it.

This is still the best site WW (Worldwide) for information pertaining to HIV/AIDS.

jntmax39 · « **Reply #63 on:** October 06, 2006, 03:18:17 pm »

I agree with you PETERB.
Everyone has an opinion.But this site has been a life saver for me. I was diagnosed in Jan 05. And if it wasn't for the people and the lessons I would feel lost.

bear60 · « **Reply #64 on:** October 06, 2006, 06:08:48 pm »

If the purpose was to get people talking or thinking.....it worked.

Iggy · « **Reply #65 on:** October 06, 2006, 07:57:59 pm »

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