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Offline chickenhawk36

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I will be chastized this I am sure
« on: July 31, 2006, 12:42:11 pm »
I know that this site has recieved tons of posts and I guess I will add to the tonnage. I was tested a year and half ago with a negative result. Since that testing I engaged in deep oral kissing with a bar girl and also recieved a hand job from a massage parlor. Here is where it gets crazy. I started having symptoms of GERD and was diagnoised with i. From there, it prgressed to pain in my legs and then all out pain in my legs,headaches daily and then the ultimate a yellowish coat appeared on my tongue and then I could feel it in my chest. Now my armpits,groin and the back of my legs are in deep pain daily,almost for three months now. I was in Minneapolis and went to see the doctor there after having been to the doc for almost a year now. He tested me for Lyme,Syphillus, and CBC. He was going to do a Heavy Metals check as well, as I am exposed to chemicals alot. I am at my wits end and know that testing is my only option. I just need some comfort to calm me down to help me get through this. I am at wits end and have had thoughts that I don't wish to discuss. I know from describing my encounters my risk seems low,but, my gums bleed daily and my thoughts are maybe I might have hit the wrong encounter this time. I have read your advice posts and first and foremost want to say thanks for all the folks you help. I haven't read one site where my symptoms don't mirro HIV. Sorry for the repetition, and thanks for any advice. I have a wife and I am very scared. Thankyou again for all you do for everyone on this site- ???

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Re: Symptoms that the doctor has yet to answer
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2006, 02:34:38 pm »
Symptoms mean nothing when it comes to HIV. Saliva is not infectious. This is not an HIV concern, please continue to seek the help and advice of your doctor.

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Re: Symptoms that the doctor has yet to answer
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2006, 03:55:05 pm »
It's certainly understandable that you are concerned and more than that about these various troublesome symptoms.

However, having all of those symptoms does not by default invalidate your negative HIV test result. Nor did any of activities you have mentioned since testing negative put you at risk for HIV.

So if your doctor can't come up with a diagnosis and treatment then you need to get at least a second opinion and perhaps from an appropriate specialist. We certainly can't evaluate your symptoms here beyond saying whatever is going on has nothing to do with HIV. Which I say with confidence given what you have reported to us.

Good luck with getting this problem sorted out.

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Offline chickenhawk36

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Thankyou
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2006, 11:48:24 am »
My bonehead is probably posting in the wrong forum, but, thanks for the replies given to me earlier concerning my question that is now two pages back in just a matter of days. Your site is very cool and informative and helpful. Nobody has to take time out to help anyone,but, you guys do and it truely makes a difference to those freaked out or simply looking for some comfort.You guys are doing a good thing.... Thankyou once again ;)

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Re: Thankyou
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2006, 01:05:26 pm »
I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

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Re: Thankyou
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2006, 10:48:29 am »
Hi Ann, RapidRod and Andy and to the rest of the folks on this thread. I know I have put my fears aside with alot of your responses. I read that only one documented case of deep kissing transmitted HIV. Both individuals had severe bleeding gums in that case and it was from the CDC. So, my gums bleed alot and that is when my so-called incident happened and then all questions and symptoms came into the forefront.Like an idiot, I got on the web and FREAKED out!I know Test damn it!But, I am only human and the mind is a powerful weapon. Trust me,I'm not a multiple threader,just want your insights on this as it does raise concern for me.Also, I am wondering if Psychosymatic issues can make a person actually have symptoms? Once again, hopefully I posted this correctly on your site?
  Ann, I read your blogs as well, what an inspiration you are. Please keep up the good work,have you thought about writing for a living? I'm being serious, very insprational and to the point,thankyou! :) Take care and I promise to keep my threads to a minimum! ;) Thanks again for all each and everyone of you do-The Chickenhawk

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2006, 10:56:21 am »
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I read that only one documented case of deep kissing transmitted HIV

That single case has been rather thoroughly disputed, as both the patients in the study and the scientists who researched them ignored and manipulated data.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Offline chickenhawk36

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Re: Thankyou
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2006, 12:50:10 pm »
JKIN, I forgot to mention you in the thankyou as well in the last thread. Thanks for your help...!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm back and scared Shi*****
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2006, 06:34:59 am »
I am sorry I am back I really am, I know how this stuff gets reptetive,but, I don't get into see my doctor until August 23. Like I said before I have had night sweats, a whit coating on my tongue with cottage cheese appearances in the back of my tongue which has progressed into my throat and pain in my groin, armpits and also in the back of my legs. My encounters were a trip to a massage parlor where the happ ending was a handjob. I also ventured into a bar where I made out with a girl for about an hour. My gums bleed alot and both encounters I had mentioned have given me reason to freak out. Maybe I have test anxiety, but, I was tested about a year and 4 months ago I was negative. Now, my wife has gotten headaches and some white stuff on her tongue as well. I am at my wits end here and regardless of how you might percieve all this I just don't know what to do if I test and it comes back positive. I have said all my thankyou's to all of you and will continue to do so, BECAUSE, you guys are taking time out of your lives to help each and every one of us in time of need and time of worry. I will say it agin THANKYOU... I want to know if other things can cause swollen lymph nodes and if I have Thrush, could it possibly be contagiuos?? I know my thrush could be caused by many things as I am a Heavy drinker and yes I know I need help with that. Once again Sorry for the waste of time here,but, I don't know where else to turn. I don't have access to a counselor right now, so, I am turning to you folks. i have been honest with you about my encounters,please give it to me straight up and direct. Thankyou, I mean it, you guys I don't think can fathom all the help you give all of us, I am not being a smartass when I say this because yo ureally do. Especially me, it is a Godsent. I know I need help with the mind, it's a given, I gotta get it, but please give me your opinions. love you all and Godbless!!

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Re: I'm back and scared Shi*****
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2006, 06:39:04 am »
Let me also add, that I have had vision issues as well, like floaters in my eyes especiall during the daylight hours. It's like I am going blind. Holy crap am I scared... :-\

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Re: I'm back and scared Shi*****
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2006, 06:55:40 am »
Chicken,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Symptoms or the lack of symptoms mean nothing when it comes to hiv infection.

You did not have a risk of hiv infection so whatever is going on with you, it could not possible have anything to do with hiv infection. Neither kissing nor getting a handjob are risks for hiv infection. You did not have a risk.

Ann
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Offline chickenhawk36

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Re: I'm back and scared Shi*****
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2006, 02:15:11 pm »
This is the last time I come back to this forum to waste your time because I know how you guys get weary of multiple posters.Yes, I have read all the forums about ten times. It is not a dig or a bad thing to say about this forum,because as I have said before you all take time out of your lives to answer some of the most dreadful questions about HIV. I explained my experiences with a hand-job at a Asian massage parlor overseas and a deep kissing encounter with a bar girl. After the encounter I went into night sweats, Headaches and blurred vision. Then developed pain in legs like numbeness and tingling and a burning sensation. From there after my wife came to visit me when I returned to the states for 2 weeks,my mouth went absolutley dry and I developed cottage cheese looking crap on my tongue. I returned home after a 2 month stay in the states and was put on Klonopin and remeral. I continued with the white stuff on my tongue and after a night of HEAVY drinking I woke up the next morning with pain in my throat and diarreha one day to heavy constipation the next.
 About a month later after another night of heavy drinking, the next morning I awoke with such severe pain in my armpits,groin and the back of my legs I was crying like no tommorrow this was mid-May and still to this day. Now I have painful lumps in the back of my legs directly behind the knee. I read forum after forum and convinced myself that I had seroconverted after all this time. Last week my chest felt like someone was pouring acid down it in my throat.From reading about ten different sites, they say fungus in the throat usually happens when the body is Immuno compromised. Now, when I wake up in the morning,and let my Choco Lab out, everywhere I look I have crap floating in my eyes. In addition after returning from my tour in the states and having sex with my wife(because,not from your forum,but, my docs saying it was stress and anxiety and giving me more F'in Anxiety medication, I felt I didn't have HIV. Now my wife two weeks after has had a horrible stiff neck,headaches and now....white stuff on her tongue)
 I am seriously at my wits end!Nothing and I mean nothing I have searched matches my symptoms but HIV. I was tested in November of 2005, and I don't, as I said before, see a Doc till the 23rd of August. I have no Mental Health access and I am thinking the WORST!!!I don't care about me, it's my wife, I care only about her. Can someone PLEASE help me in deciphering what might be going on. Are there any other STI's that could possibly be wrecking me like they are. I've tired to limit my last posts in hopes of it just being minor,but, I don't know what to do?
  I am sorry I have posted so much. I really am, you folks are terrific,but, I am hurting in ways I cannot describe. I really am. I can't test until the 23rd and the ER thinks I am off my rocker. From reading all the forum folks posts on this site and the Blogs, I have had such a feeling of thankfullness towards you all,but, I just can't cope anymore. It's affected my job,my homelife and I have increased my alcohol intake to where I can drink daily like it's water. Please give me your honest feedback, Thankyou so much from this pain in the ass thread poster. Thankyou...

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Re: I'm back and scared Shi*****
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2006, 02:53:36 pm »
Like we've all said you didn't have a risk. Whatever is going on with you is not HIV. See your doctor if your symptoms persist.

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Re: I'm back and scared Shi*****
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2006, 03:07:56 pm »
Chicken,

You haven't had a risk of hiv infection.

Maybe if you stopped drinking so much you'd feel better. Excessive alcohol intake will really do an number on your mind and body both. If your doctor isn't taking your physical concerns seriously and running some tests - OTHER than hiv - then maybe you need to find a new doctor.

Unless you've been having unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse or sharing needles with someone, you haven't had a risk of hiv infection. Stop focusing on hiv and find a doctor who will help you get to the root of your problem. We cannot do that for you.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline chickenhawk36

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Re: I'm back and scared Shi*****
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2006, 12:01:12 pm »
Holy crap, this is the last post I make. I have my appointment on the 23rd as I have said before. Regaardless of how it comes back, thanks to Rapid Rod, Ann, Andy JKI. I was having some horrible thoughts, one I don't wish to include on this site. But,when one doesn't have anywhere to turn, the light at ones tunnel gets pretty damn dim and thanks to the internet(I know stay off the symptom sites), I was able to turn to you folks.I am still having some horrible symptoms along with my wife, awful pain in my lymph nodes and crap on my tongue along with my eyes going haywire with blurry vision and crap floating acrossed. One can only pray that this is bacterial a virus or all in my damn head. If I threw the balance of my body off, I hope maybe it is contributing to it as well...Please don't take  these thankyous from these people lightly and especially ME, you guys are wonderful!!!!!I mean it...Thanks again and God Bless all of you.

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Re: I'm back and scared Shi*****
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2006, 12:12:29 pm »
Holy crap, this is the last post I make. I have my appointment on the 23rd as I have said before. Regaardless of how it comes back, thanks to Rapid Rod, Ann, Andy JKI. I was having some horrible thoughts, one I don't wish to include on this site. But,when one doesn't have anywhere to turn, the light at ones tunnel gets pretty damn dim and thanks to the internet(I know stay off the symptom sites), I was able to turn to you folks.I am still having some horrible symptoms along with my wife, awful pain in my lymph nodes and crap on my tongue along with my eyes going haywire with blurry vision and crap floating acrossed. One can only pray that this is bacterial a virus or all in my damn head. If I threw the balance of my body off, I hope maybe it is contributing to it as well...Please don't take  these thankyous from these people lightly and especially ME, you guys are wonderful!!!!!I mean it...Thanks again and God Bless all of you.

Hi Chickenhawk

I agree with everyone else who's already posted - you absolutley didn't have a risk in any of the activities you described. Handjobs are pretty much the safest type of sex with another person possible - that is you won't even catch a bacterial STD that way - which are far more infectious than HIV.

Your symptoms could be part of some infection other than HIV, however its also possible that some of them may be brought on by your overwhelming anxiety surrounding this encounter.

Do us and other's reading this forum a favor - when you test, let us know of your negative result and let us know if some of these "symptoms" start to disappear shortly thereafter.

Good luck, though you don't need it in regard to this situation.

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Re: I'm back and scared Shi*****
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2006, 12:24:44 pm »
Chick,

I have suffered from anxiety for the past 15 years and I can tell you that whilst your symptoms are not certainly anxiety, they certainly could be.

I have had burning pains, tingling, white tongue, floaters in th eyes etc. and more.

I am not diagnosing you, just letting you know that anxiety is certainly a possiblility.

When I say anxiety you can substitute,.... guilt/depression/fear etc.

Heartfelt thoughts.


Fred

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Re: I'm back and scared Shi*****
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2006, 09:51:42 pm »
And whilst Fred shouldn't be hijacking other people's threads, he should have added that symptoms mean nothing when it comes to diagnosing HIV.

Which isn't an issue in your case Hawk, because you didn't have a risk and therefore HIV is not a concern for you.

MtD

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Re: I'm back and scared Shi*****
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2006, 12:06:44 am »
Hawk,

Just in case you haven't digested the sage adivce imparted by Rod, Andy, Ann, JK, and Matty:

1).  Symptoms mean nothing where hiv risk assessment is concerned.

2).  You had no risk of hiv infection.

3).  Hiv is not an issue for you.

Morgan
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Offline chickenhawk36

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Re: I'm back and scared Shi*****
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2006, 02:12:58 pm »
Okay, I lied, I said my last post was my last post ::)Thanks all for your help. I'll lie one more time about posting and shoot you my results after I see the Doc in a couple of weeks. You guys saved my life...no bullshit either!I don't take the advice and forums I read on this site lightly one bit! It's serious I know! I am a just a very dramatic person and elated when someone takes the time out of their lives to help others in time of need...Thankyou for the help. I would highly reccomend this forum open up a forum so we worriers can flood you with our thanks and comments... Chickenhawk36 is finally outta your hair. Thankyou
« Last Edit: August 21, 2006, 02:14:55 pm by chickenhawk36 »

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tell me how and why you refuse to believe
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2006, 04:46:41 pm »
I tried, I really did...I tried to hold back my thoughts and even PM'd ANN. But, I cannot any longer!I tested negative in Nov of 2004. No risks prior, only the kiss with another woman and a trip to a massage parlor with a happy ending, massaging my penis and rubbing my anus. From that point I TOLD you I had a white coating on my tongue with a mold like appearance which eventually progreesed into my throat. THEN, I had pain in my underarms, below my jaw and into my groin, knees and elbows. I have not prodded or poked at any of these areas. Now, I have brown DAMN spots floating before my eyes EVERYDAY when I wake up and go outside. I cannot believe what is going on with me and to make matters 10 times worse, my wife now has a white coating on her tongue and is tired every single day and sleeps like no tommorrow. If it is not HIV then what the hell is it!!!!!I have constant pain in my legs, my ankles feel like someone has taken a hammer to them. I can barely walk!!!I have been 100%%% honest with you foks and my experiences and NO I am not thinking I am dillusional to all of this. WHY WHY WHY!!!Has all this happened to me???Please try to tell me I am thinking the worst. I tested NEG for Syphillus and every other disease. AM I the one??? I love you alll and I think of you as Martyrs to this site,but, I cannot bear doing something stupid like this to my wife. I just can't and can't go on. If there is anything else that could cause this then please do reply, but, if not I say ADIEU!!!!!!!I have sincerely had it!!!

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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2006, 06:15:56 pm »
We aren't martyrs to anything and you need to get off of that pathetic pity pot you're sitting on.

If you are having symptoms that you are worried about don't you think you might drag your sorry butt to a doctor and discuss them? Whatever they are they have absolutely nothing to do with HIV. None of your activities put you at risk for HIV so it's not surprising you tested negative.

Have you been to see a mental health specialist to discuss the emotional aspects of whatever is going on?

You're putting an awful lot of energy into insisting you know more than anyone else about this situation.

Instead of all that "adieu drama" and remorse, how about trying a little genuine humility and getting yourself some professional help? Or are you just having too much fun with your orgy of guilt?

Andy Velez

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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2006, 07:32:59 pm »
Chicken,

This is the THIRD time I've had to merge your threads. Get with the program.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Get with the program!

I agree with Andy. Stop the pity party and get yourself to the doctor if you're as ill as you claim. Whatever is going on with you has nothing to do with hiv. You could be missing something important by your insistance of only focusing on hiv. It ain't hiv.

Ann
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Re: tell me how and why you refuse to believe
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2006, 11:26:41 pm »
Did your Dr test for Epstein barr virus(mono). I had all the symptoms you had for over four months about a year ago. They went away, and then came this past August. I thought I had HIV too.  I was sick for the  whole month of August. I went to the Dr again and the did all blood work and tests and the only thing that came up was EBV and hsv I .  I was having gastro-intestinal problems and node pains, body pains and extremely tired a year later. Although I'm alot better than I was a month ago, about 80% better.  If you haven't been tested for EBV yet. Test for that, because that's what it sounds like you have. Goodluck!

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Re: tell me how and why you refuse to believe
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2006, 01:23:44 am »
rob765, please stay in you own tread. You are not experienced in risk assessments.

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Re: tell me how and why you refuse to believe
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2006, 01:34:44 pm »
I am not wishing Adieu to make one believe I am thinking the worst.Because I am not,absolutely the furthest from my mind and I am not having a orgy with my guilt. I have been to the doctor so many times it is sickening, I have finally sought a Mental Health provider who insists I take Anti-depressants. When ones access to the internet and the doctors can find zilch, a person tends to think the worst. And yes, I know symptoms mean nothing when it comes to HIV. I however have to ask how can a persons immune system get so depleted that one gets the symptoms of which I have described.I have been tested for Syphillus, Herpes,Diabetes on and on, and no not HIV since my last test in 2004. That's it, all I wanted to know...why I would have symptoms of CMV(brown spots daily, worse when I look at a computer screen), why every single point where Lymph Nodes exist are painful and swollen, and why my tongue looks like I left old cheese out and my throat and chest feeling like someone has pured hot coffee down it 24-7. Behind my knees look like two swollen golf balls, and I can barely walk when I wake up!!It is tough for anyone and evryeone who has had an exposure that has caused guilt and played with mind as I have. Yes! I am feeling guilty alright, I messed around on my wife, with the contacts I told you about. Nothing more...you folks have dealt with this already you have dealt with your own diagnoises, or for the counselors that deal with HIV you see it on a daily basis. But at 2 in the morning, when someone is feeling like absolute Dog Crap, your forum has been there for me and others.Some of us do not have access to a ER or competent doctors...so, we turn to the net. It helps and it hurts. Call me a drama queen if you must, that is what all this crap has done to me. The wonderful folks on this net have been there and I don't care what you say. There was some point in your lives that you had no one to turn to but a website. And you know what it helped. If it wasn't the net it was a friend or finally a Mental Health doc. I got caught up in how I was feeling and turned to you all. I'm sorry I did that. It sounds like pity, but it is not, it is PAIN and guilt combined. I am through here, I have wasted enough peoples time and energy, but, I won't stop thanking you or telling others about this site and the good things you do.Tough shit if you want to give me a time out, I mean tough shit to me...it's been horrible, I have made decisions that I have made that have hurt my mind and well-being I have made the choices, just looking for answers. Anyways, thankyou, please give me a time-out so I don't get in one of my ways and post any further.Ann, I had absolutely no right in saying I PM'ed you it was stupid and inconsiderate and unwarranted, Andy I adore the work you do...you may not be a Martyr,but, you do help. I think that warrants such. I have never questioned the honesty of this site or the people who have responded to my 3 threads,yes, I have questioned the validity by my stupidity of symptoms not having nothing to do with HIV and not believed them hence my repeated posts... I have only thanked you... Take care
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I OWE THIS SITE AN APOLOGY
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2006, 10:25:55 pm »
I owe this site an apology for my constant stupid posts on possibly being infected. I have reflected so much and I need to let everyone on this site know that...these people the advisors,know what they are talking about. I have been so dramatic in my experiences and I just wanted to say that I am sorry. Kick this post to whatever forum you wish and scold me for not posting in my own thread. BUT, I love you guys and I want to thank you for your work. IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED. I won't elaborate on my results from my HIV test because it warrants other counsling and I won't elaborate into the findings etc.....Thanks to Andy, RapidRod and JKIN and of course the always lovable Ann who persistently reminds us all we shouldn't start another thread. I am not being a smart-ass, you do hold this thread and it's posters accountable. Thanks everyone ;D

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I will be chastized this I am sure
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2007, 07:18:56 am »
I posted on here a while back and explained my situation and sorry for the redundancy. Well...here goes. My situation was with a massage parlor where I recieved a Hand Job-Done, my second encounter was with a woman in a bar where we made out for almost three hours. I had my last HIV test done in Nov 04(Negative). The incident happened in July of 05. This is what has happened since then. MIND you! I took the advice of many on this site and my doctor, decided not to test due to my symptoms being not related to HIV.
 I first and foremost am not blaming or saying any of you were wrong. This is what has happened to me since then. After the incident I recieved enormous headaches, I couldn't see I could barely function. I was in the states when this happened. I returned home back to my country(nameless)which is overseas. I started to have massive brown spots in my eyes when I would wake up and go outside and look at the Sun, They would get better, but, not much better. Then I started to get a lot of pain behind my knees. Armpits, and in my elbows and fingers. DAILY!!!(stiill happening)Then, I noticed after running one day, behind my elbows looked like someone had stuck two golf balls in there. When I went to sleep, I would wake up with sweat all over my legs, also I sweat constantly during the day on my arms. I also get a sharp yet itching pain behind my neck daily. Low and behold I went to a hotel with my wife, and one of the nights we were ther I had such dry mouth I couldn't stand it. Cottage Cheese like formations took hold of my tongue.
 This has been one year folks since I got the diagnosis I don't need to test. Not from only you but also from my Doc who is a military wienee. It has been one year and these are my symptoms!!!!! Yellowish tongue, MY WIFE has it too+plus pain in her arms and legs!!!!I go to sleep and can barely walk in the morning when I wake up!!!!It hurts so bad. Behind my knees feel like constant bee stings. My vision is wrecked. I have brown JELLO in my eyes. And, behind my neck itches and hurts, about the first three vertabreas (Upper). Feels like something is lodged in my spine. My stools are so loose, what goes (must come out) it DOES come out in vegetable or meat form. I sweat every single night. AND, my mid-section buzzez all day long and my feet are numb and burning, my right hnd is like a pain station(no PUN intended, but it fricken hurts). So.....What say you. I am not a bull shitter, I have been honest about my experiences. Is it possible that my test was a flub????I am in a place where they will send me back to the states W/O my wife because if I gave her something the F'in US won't take her because she doesn't have a VISA yet. Chastize me, ridicule me I have been 100% honest with you. I mean it. Both my wife and I had HIV tests done in Nov 2004 both negative. Yes I was a dog, but the experiences I listed were true and honest. Bye

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Re: I will be chastized this I am sure
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2007, 07:38:43 am »
So... go get tested for HIV. You don't get HIV from making out or from a hand job. But since you seem determined that it IS HIV, go test for it and rule it out.

However, I gotta tell ya, I have had AIDS for over a decade, and have never had the litany of symptoms that you have had all at once. Whatever you have, it seems WAY more virulent than HIV.




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Re: I will be chastized this I am sure
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2007, 07:56:32 am »
chicken,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

I would suggest you take your list of symptoms to your doctor and let the doctor diagnose what's going on. There are quite a few other illnesses in the world besides hiv. Test for hiv if you like, collect your negative result and concentrate on finding out what is actually causing your problems. Whatever is going on has nothing to do with hiv.

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Re: I will be chastized this I am sure
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2007, 03:15:45 pm »
I will absolutely apologize to this forum for being a nuisance, because I am, not pity, I know I am. However, it has been very confusing with everything that has happened in the past year. For someone to go from being a totally healthy person, running marathons and feeling 100%, when things happen like they have it plays so many tricks with a persons mind. I felt suicidal at one point when everything started happening and saw a psychologist, more meds and even more meds WTF???Oh yes, we will keep you in the hospital for a few days, I explained my fears, no TEST!!!!! I truely wish I never found this site(that is not intended to be harsh), but, I did and there are numerous angels on this site that have helped me some that have given me the hard line which I totally deserve. I appreciate your help, I mean that from my heart. I am gonna get the test enough of this crap with whining and wasting peoples time. You all do it for free and take the time out of your days to help!Thanks again, enough is enough, I need to clear my head and get on with it. Why is it so hard to test?????Maybe that is something the forum should address???Maybe not??I guess when there is a second party involved it changes everything?? I am sorry I posted new threads, I just need the help, that is why I came to you. I just want to start feeling better and I am not. Call me dramatic whatever, I love you guys and everything you do for us the Thinkers and worry warts!!Wish me luck, I love you all and appreciate any negative and positive response. I am going in tommorrow to get this done and over with. I have too....Chickenhawk36

 


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