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Ars, testing, exposure help
« on: August 22, 2013, 12:35:05 pm »
Hey really would like an honest answer here please!

My brief story I had unprotected sex with a female, which resulted in cuts to my penis, from it being really rough... I noticed a little blood.

I developed weird lesions on my arms 3 weeks afterwards with joint pains and nausea that all lasted 3 months! I tested 12 weeks with elisa test and still had symptoms so I tested again with a 4th gen test at 14 weeks! I'm now having thrush a lot.

Can I be late seroconversion? Is it possible to have negative antibody and negative antigen at 14 weeks, wouldn't one of them shown up? Have you guys ever seen someone test like me and come up positive later, or heard of a story? Please help

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Re: Ars, testing, exposure help
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 12:42:01 pm »
You negative Elisa test at 14 weeks is proof you do not have HIV .


 To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED FURTHER HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME for this incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Please use those condoms or you may not be as lucky next time .
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Re: Ars, testing, exposure help
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 12:50:37 pm »
I hear 3 months is only 97% per CDC. And some people on here tested negative with ongoing symptoms, only to test pos later?

My 14 week 4th gen would have detected at least ab or ag now? What about rare cases?

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2013, 01:01:31 pm »
I hear 3 months is only 97% per CDC. And some people on here tested negative with ongoing symptoms, only to test pos later?

My 14 week 4th gen would have detected at least ab or ag now? What about rare cases?

The cdc testing window period guideline has been 6 weeks post exposure and again at 3 months to confirm the results for years now . The Elisa test you had is definitive , you do not have HIV . Your symptoms are NOT specific to HIV and could be caused by many more thing than HIV ( you do not have HIV ) . Go see your doctor and find out whats wrong because its not HIV making you sick . The only way to know your HIV status is to test and you did that already so you can rule HIV out .     
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Re: Ars, testing, exposure help
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2013, 01:53:01 pm »
I know you say you can't go by symptoms but with these lesions on my body that I have never ever had that wont heal, and the joint pains/ muscle aches that far out I can't put past me.

I read on the I tested pos page that some people had negative tests and then got a diagnosis of aids after a negative test just months before?

It is a rare possibility that I should be concerned about? I know you say 3 months is conclusive, but what about these people?

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2013, 02:02:37 pm »
I know you say you can't go by symptoms but with these lesions on my body that I have never ever had that wont heal, and the joint pains/ muscle aches that far out I can't put past me.

I read on the I tested pos page that some people had negative tests and then got a diagnosis of aids after a negative test just months before?

It is a rare possibility that I should be concerned about? I know you say 3 months is conclusive, but what about these people?

No ... its not HIV . Those people are wrong is about all I can tell you .

Get a full STD panel done . Syphilis can cause skin lesions all over your body in long term untreated cases but not in 3 weeks . You really should be talking to your doctor about this and stop trying to diagnose your self over the internet , its not going to help you .

If you haven't had an exposure since the one 3 months before you tested you absolutely do not have HIV . If you cant accept these facts go test again and know that testing negative 3 months past any exposure means you do not have HIV .   
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Re: Ars, testing, exposure help
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2013, 02:24:48 pm »
Livd,

If the symptoms you're experiencing had anything to do with hiv, your test result would have been positive.

The symptoms that some people experience in primary hiv infection are not due to the virus itself. They are due to the process the body goes through while producing antibodies.

If you continue to feel unwell, see a doctor and as Jeff said, you should also test for all the other, MUCH more easily and prevalent STIs.

Whatever is going on has NOTHING to do with hiv. You are conclusively hiv negative.

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Re: Ars, testing, exposure help
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2013, 03:23:05 pm »
I know you say you can't go by symptoms but with these lesions on my body that I have never ever had that wont heal, and the joint pains/ muscle aches that far out I can't put past me.

I read on the I tested pos page that some people had negative tests and then got a diagnosis of aids after a negative test just months before?

It is a rare possibility that I should be concerned about? I know you say 3 months is conclusive, but what about these people?

If you had lesions on your body, that would be an Opportunistic Infection, which absolutely would not take place in the absence of a positive antibody test. That just isn't the way HIV works.

Also, the 97% rate of three month testing is a pretty obsolete marker, even by the slow-moving/witted CDC standards. The three percent leeway was put in place to account for people who had zero immune response to begin with - people on chemotherapy, for example, which completely destroys the immune system and wipes out ALL CD4 cells.

Here is a clue as to whether you might have a completely destroyed immune system: If you have to ask whether you do or not, you don't.

I am very sorry you are having health troubles. Luckily you have ruled out HIV as the culprit.

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