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Author Topic: What to do, what to say  (Read 12670 times)

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Offline Miss Philicia

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What to do, what to say
« on: April 07, 2008, 04:58:30 pm »
My LTS support group is in one hour, and I'm busy doing facial masks and coordinating wardrobe selections because the construction worker with tattoos will be in attendance (I hope....)

*sigh*

... And he has SUCH a lovely deep voice
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2008, 04:59:04 pm »
I might even have to douche... a girl can never be to prepared
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2008, 05:04:37 pm »
I might even have to douche... a girl can never be to prepared

I was just about to post.
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Offline MOONLIGHT1114

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2008, 06:44:32 pm »
I wonder if philly is getting any yet?  LOL

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2008, 07:02:57 pm »
I wonder if philly is getting any yet?  LOL

 ;D

I would expect he's still douching.   :o

(He is SO gonna *hate* me.)
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Offline AndyArrow

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2008, 08:13:56 pm »
I thought Pandas didn't like to have sex?!
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2008, 09:02:45 pm »
The construction worker wasn't there, but two men told me I was very handsome  (though one prefaced by saying "you must have been very handsome when you were younger)

THE NERVE OF THESE BUTTFUCKERS
« Last Edit: April 07, 2008, 09:19:16 pm by philly267 »
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2008, 09:07:57 pm »
think of this as a dress rehearsal for when he does come.

 ;D

just sayin,
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2008, 09:09:11 pm »
Is the guy who said that to you still alive?!  Will you be able to post from jail?

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2008, 09:20:55 pm »
He wasn't very attractive.  There's another guy that's kind of wealthy, with a condo around the Art Museum (fancy hood) and a weekend retreat in Bucks County.  He also wears cashmere and is ever so attentive to me.

He seem intrigued by my Dior waxed dipped low slung denim jeans, though at times my ass crack was showing.
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2008, 10:09:47 pm »
though at times my ass crack was showing.

Oh, I'm sure that was planned.
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2008, 10:14:22 pm »
Oh, I'm sure that was planned.

well, duh
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2008, 10:20:38 pm »
What a tramp!!!  That just warms the cockles of my heart ... so to speak.

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2008, 10:23:17 pm »
 :o
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2008, 10:55:38 pm »
Dearest,
The facials are supposed to cap off a hook-up, not lead to one!
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2008, 12:11:19 am »
He seem intrigued by my Dior waxed dipped low slung denim jeans, though at times my ass crack was showing.

That's a coin slot honey - if only he'd known what he could get for a dime!!!

Oh, and please do tell - does Dior use organic beeswax?
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2008, 12:19:45 am »
That's a coin slot honey - if only he'd known what he could get for a dime!!!

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2008, 12:52:41 am »
did philly forget her underwear at home too? sometimes you gotta put it to the right - for the right type of attention! hmm, i wonder if the construction man has an erection set for you!!

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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2008, 12:59:02 am »
That's butch?
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2008, 01:31:28 am »
Sounds like an exciting support group  :)

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2008, 01:37:07 am »
Yeah, it was better than usual this week.  Though there were two guys there that seemed dangerously entertaining thoughts of suicide.

The tuna wraps were nice though.
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Offline DCGUY2007

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2008, 01:40:58 am »
Well at least they are in a support group. I hope you all can help them get pass this feeling.

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2008, 02:06:52 am »
We were trying.  They seemed adverse to cognitive therapy.
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2008, 03:18:28 am »
Ugh, I don't see how anyone can wear jeans with their ass crack showing. That must be a gay thing because I don't think most women would find that appealing. Hell, I live in the hood and I hate seeing the dudes with their pants hanging off their ass like they took a major shit in them.


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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2008, 03:44:16 am »
Ugh, I don't see how anyone can wear jeans with their ass crack showing. That must be a gay thing because I don't think most women would find that appealing. Hell, I live in the hood and I hate seeing the dudes with their pants hanging off their ass like they took a major shit in them.


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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2008, 06:35:18 am »
Tuna wraps?
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2008, 01:02:46 pm »
The construction worker wasn't there, but two men told me I was very handsome  (though one prefaced by saying "you must have been very handsome when you were younger)

THE NERVE OF THESE BUTTFUCKERS

Did someone actually say this to you?   A back-handed compliment if ever I've heard one.  How rude!

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2008, 02:59:13 pm »
Actually, philly267 was very handsome in his earlier years. Maybe what was uttered was not worded too intelligently but perhaps it wasn't intended as a putdown.
Philly267 is also very masculine looking....but have you read some of his posts and the way he carries about sometimes--often leading some to tears of laughter. High camp and all that.
I know if philly267 was of the notion to do so he could have ripped that guy a new asshole. And may yet.

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2008, 03:05:27 pm »
That's butch?

Hateful queen.  Bet you were really hateful when you were younger, too.   >:(


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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2008, 03:11:05 pm »
Ugh, I don't see how anyone can wear jeans with their ass crack showing. That must be a gay thing because I don't think most women would find that appealing.

Honey, it's the gay male equivalent of the low cut dress that shows a little cleavage. 

But personally, the effect varies and there are some coin slots into which I simply don't want to make a deposit.

AIDS isn't for sissies.

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2008, 03:24:20 pm »
But personally, the effect varies and there are some coin slots into which I simply don't want to make a deposit.



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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2008, 03:39:09 pm »
You guys are f*kg hilarious....Love you all...if i were a man i'd definitely be a gay man!
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2008, 06:05:28 pm »
Ugh, I don't see how anyone can wear jeans with their ass crack showing. That must be a gay thing because I don't think most women would find that appealing. Hell, I live in the hood and I hate seeing the dudes with their pants hanging off their ass like they took a major shit in them.


(who will be moving on up like George and Weezy soon)

My crack only showed when I got out of the car.  Dior's have a low-hip fit, but they don't show the ass crack when you're walking on the street.  They're also cut with extra leg length so that they bunch up slightly at the ankles, which is very fetching when paired with combat boots.

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2008, 06:08:27 pm »
Did someone actually say this to you?   A back-handed compliment if ever I've heard one.  How rude!

Henry


Naw, actually 3 other guys told me I was handsome.  This guy, I'm sure, didn't mean for it to come out in that manner.  I was talking with the group moderator on the phone just now and he said the same thing -- just a clumsy comment.  If it had been meant as an insult rest assured that Philicia would have read that little queen for filth so bad he'd have broken down in tears.

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2008, 06:11:09 pm »
My crack only showed when I got out of the car.  Dior's have a low-hip fit, but they don't show the ass crack when you're walking on the street.  They're also cut with extra leg length so that they bunch up slightly at the ankles, which is very fetching when paired with combat boots.

SORRY QUEEN... JUST TELLING IT LIKE I SEES IT. :)

btw: it's ALL about waxed dipped denim finishes.

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2008, 06:12:06 pm »
Hateful queen.  Bet you were really hateful when you were younger, too.   >:(




Oh indeed.  I've mellowed with age.  I was a Holy Terror in my 20's.

>>>> Young Philicia!!! (getting drunk with her homies!)

ps:  note rosarie... and I'm not even Catholic

« Last Edit: April 08, 2008, 06:14:17 pm by philly267 »
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2008, 06:14:01 pm »
Honey, it's the gay male equivalent of the low cut dress that shows a little cleavage. 

But personally, the effect varies and there are some coin slots into which I simply don't want to make a deposit.



So, the bulge no longer counts? Don't tell me there is gay men running around sticking socks or big veggies down their pants? Say it isn't so....

Hmm, nice pic, Philicia.. I would've been at you, what a hottie... :-*
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2008, 06:15:13 pm »


Hmm, nice pic, Philicia.. I would've been at you, what a hottie... :-*

Please honey, I would have been plowing one of your male relatives.
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2008, 06:48:17 pm »
hey, that guy was right. You were very handsome when you were younger  ;)
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2008, 06:50:42 pm »
hey, that guy was right. You were very handsome when you were younger  ;)

I still am, Blanche.  It's just that my voice sounds like Audrey Hepburn.
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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2008, 06:51:37 pm »
ps:  No, I don't, and never have, plucked my eyebrows.  They're naturally perfect like that.

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2008, 08:43:21 pm »
Sorry to hear about your voice Philly ... although I loved Audrey Hepburn.  I used to say that Michael Jackson and I were the only two men to go through puberity and the voices never changed.  And I ain't too sure that he did.  At 6'3 you would think I'd have this nice deep voice ... but unfortunately it just ain't so.  And your eyebrows are lovely  :D

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Re: What to do, what to say
« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2008, 09:40:39 pm »
I am seriously considering to join a support group now. Haven't been to one thought I don't need it. Wish I meet some hot guys like you in my group.
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