I take two adult gummi vitamins a day. Three if I am extra hungry.
and you should think about therapy.
many of us do not have hundreds of dollars (a lot of money) to toss around for unproven supplements. Heck, many of us can barely afford our prescription HIV meds, assuming we can at all (ADAP lists?)
Thing is, unless we are diagnosed with a specific deficiency by a doctor, taking a boatload of pills will not, as has been proven scientifically, do anything to boost or maintain our immune system.
It sucks money out of our thin wallets that would be MUCH better spent on buying nutritious fresh (or frozen, not canned) food.
And movies. And maybe whiskey.
For some reason some people would rather criticize and ridicule than just share information.
The question asked was, "What supplements are you taking."
Presently I am sure there are lots of my supplements doing nothing helpful and will attempt to weed them out with monthly testing of my CD4s. Hopefully I will be able to offer the reduced list and lab tests to others if and when that time comes.
Cheers,
Hoover
If you read my thread i said im not intrested in arguments for or against i was directing the question at those people who take supplements.
If you read my thread i said im not intrested in arguments for or against i was directing the question at those people who take supplements.
Miss Philicia,
Thank you for your concern, I am sure you have seen it all by now.
You are correct in that I will not be willing to stop all the supplements for a 6 month period.
With that said, I will drop a few and test the CD4s each month. Yes that is limited, but that is the way I intend to do it. (the chamber developed an issue and was shipped to France today so we will see how the next CD4 tests go without its' influence)
Our daughter was a type A personality full of life to an exhausted young adult.I thought she had HIV and tested her for it but she is negative. She tested positive for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
Her doctor put her on most of these supplements. In two months she has gone from sleeping 15 hours a day to exercising, feeling better and looking for a job. A month after getting her on the road to wellness, I tested positive and started it on myself.
My anti-aging doctor takes and prescribes all these supplements and regularly has our labs done to check for problems. First rule in the medical field is "do no harm" and the lab work indicates no problems thus far.
In our country lab work is not expensive and you go to it like any store and get what you want done without a doctor prescribing. Last time I checked with WHO, our country is #3 in the world in health care with the US at #27. I feel confident that my actions are causing no harm, but am not implying that they are helping either. Time will tell one way or the other.
Cheers,
Hoover
Hyperbaric chamber daily for 90 minutes at 8 lbs pressure and 100% oxygen.
Hoover,
Don't let the naysayers get you down. I say try them out, see how they work and whether they improve things for you.
I would stay away from anybody trying to sell an expensive supplement that's advertised as made purely for HIV. However that's rare - most things can be bought fairly cheaply and are good for the body overall.
Hey Bozie, do you think Hoovs will give you a go in his hyperbaric doo-hickey?
MtD
I'd love to give it a spin. Hopefully won't need it for some years :)
He might hop in with you, pet. You two can whisper sweetly to one another about tincture of milk thistle and decoction of she-oak at 25 atmospheres.
MtD
Last time I checked with WHO, our country is #3 in the world in health care with the US at #27.
Actually I feel much better after hitting the ignore button on a few a-holes.
(queen down under, dude from hell and the hateful hobbit, please refer your vile towards your viewing audience as I do not respect your negative views and have blocked you.)
Ann thanks for the updated numbers on how Costa Rica rates.
Apparently the numbers that the medical establishments post are outdated.
They show Japan, France then Costa Rica.
UK is number 18?
I LOVE London, maybe that can be a good excuse for us to summer in Europe!
Thanks for the kindness Tommy. Yes I am new to this and will probably learn a lot as time progresses.
I may even look back and wonder what I was thinking with all these supplements, but for now I think I am doing the right thing.
Even great wine (Whiskey) turns into expensive pee.
Cheers from paradise,
Hoover
You know if you think about girls while you're doing it it doesn't count. Alternatively, as long as your balls never touch...it's still not gay.
Is this like a major fantasy for you guys - doing it with a straight guy?
Is this like a major fantasy for you guys - doing it with a straight guy? Kinda like men love virgins?I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit...
Definitely whiskey. Definitely.
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit...
Is this like a major fantasy for you guys - doing it with a straight guy? Kinda like men love virgins?
You seem to be doing that alot lately, you really should start Prilosec or something.I know -
-W
Is this like a major fantasy for you guys - doing it with a straight guy? Kinda like men love virgins?
Is this like a major fantasy for you guys - doing it with a straight guy? Kinda like men love virgins?
Puhleez. The skraits are so boring. They have so many hang ups and limitations that it gets annoying. And believe you me, they are really easy to "turn" gay; just take a look at mancunt or adam4adam and count how many "bi curious," married, and supposedly straight men are looking for cock.
I think the real fantasy is the opposite: many, if not most, straight fools would love to get their dick sucked by another dude. They're just too socially conditioned to openly admit it.
I know there are arguments for and against vit pills but lets leave those aside, so if you do take supplements what are they.?
I live in spain and eat a healthy meditterenean diet but have recently started taking supplements.
Omega 3
Vit D
Selenium
Multivit with minerals.
I guess im trying to find out if im missing anything that could be important.
Is this like a major fantasy for you guys - doing it with a straight guy? Kinda like men love virgins?
No fantasy for me baby. I'm a master at getting straight meat into the sack.
MtD
Puhleez. The skraits are so boring. They have so many hang ups and limitations that it gets annoying. And believe you me, they are really easy to "turn" gay; just take a look at mancunt or adam4adam and count how many "bi curious," married, and supposedly straight men are looking for cock.
I think the real fantasy is the opposite: many, if not most, straight fools would love to get their dick sucked by another dude. They're just too socially conditioned to openly admit it.
If he's in your sack he ain't straight. Definition, baby :)
Yes, exactly - so they are probably just closeted gays.
I personally don't think any straight guys 'would love' to be sucked off by a dude. They may agree barring other options but if they 'would love' I doubt how straight they are.
I know there are arguments for and against vit pills but lets leave those aside, so if you do take supplements what are they.?
I live in spain and eat a healthy meditterenean diet but have recently started taking supplements.
Omega 3
Vit D
Selenium
Multivit with minerals.
I guess im trying to find out if im missing anything that could be important.
I seem to remember it was you who is intensely curious as to how it feels to take a cock up the back door . You should hire a rent boy since you cant stay away form gay sex topics . Just keep telling yourself this when he slips it in ... it ain't gay if ya don't push back .
My, how we perceive things through our own eyes. Since you clearly didn't get why I was asking, I'll spell it out. I was not interested for my own experience - if I was I could just stick something up there and see how it felt. I was interested how gay bottoms get to orgasm from purely scientific curiosity. There just aren't enough nerve ending to get an orgasm (some people can come from pure thought - I am not talking about those) - so men usually need penis stimulation to come. It has **nothing** to do with myself or my sex life.
My, how we perceive things through our own eyes. Since you clearly didn't get why I was asking, I'll spell it out. I was not interested for my own experience - if I was I could just stick something up there and see how it felt. I was interested how gay bottoms get to orgasm from purely scientific curiosity. There just aren't enough nerve ending to get an orgasm (some people can come from pure thought - I am not talking about those) - so men usually need penis stimulation to come. It has **nothing** to do with myself or my sex life.
... from purely scientific curiosity....
- if I was I could just stick something up there and see how it felt
Hell YES........whiskey. Definitely....... along with omega 3 fish oil and a one a day mulit-vitamin, also will chew on a smal clove of garlic and sometimes a small piece of ginger root, this keeps all the oral buggers at bay ;D
For the last few months I have been down to only 2 supplements - one vitamin D 5000 IU softgel to counter side effects from several meds, and melatonin to help with sleep. I have a 1 year supply of many more supplements I stopped taking. I may cycle through them over time, but I will most likely have some excess.
melatonin, interesting, anyone else taking this one? or melatonin + calcium?
I have taken melatonin for sleep issues. It works, but I have noticed I am very groggy the next day. Oddly, when using pot, I awake refreshed. It seems to be one of the few drugs that does this.
You could try to reduce the dose, a large study I think at John Hopkins that studied it, showed that the common 3mg dose found in many supplements was way too much.
I seem to remember it was you who is intensely curious as to how it feels to take a cock up the back door . You should hire a rent boy since you cant stay away form gay sex topics . Just keep telling yourself this when he slips it in ... it ain't gay if ya don't push back .
That is actually a great idea. I don't like relying on harsh stuff to put me to sleep, and like to have an arsenal of different products. Would be great to add Melatonin back to that mix again.specifically they found the .3 was almost as effective as 3mg if I recall correctly however and .3 was much more effective than 20mg so its a strange dose range or there is a point of diminishing returns. I will look for the study.
Hey why dont you take your sex life to the off topic section and start a public sex thread not everyone wants to read this crap.
Hey why dont you take your sex life to the off topic section and start a public sex thread not everyone wants to read this crap.
You could try to reduce the dose, a large study I think at John Hopkins that studied it, showed that the common 3mg dose found in many supplements was way too much.
Quite childish really some of you intentionally trying to turn a simple thread about what vits people take into some sort of sex thread , grow up.
Can anyone suggest some good vitamin suppositories?
Or a vitamin infused, mineral rich, dildo?
Or a vitamin infused, mineral rich, dildo?
ask Yury Zavalsky's nephew (http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/gay-porn-stash-in-school/415867.html)
Can anyone suggest some good vitamin suppositories?
Dasvidaniya, Yuri! :)
There are many vegetables that are loaded with vitamins and minerals that can be used as a dildo .
Dasvidaniya, Yuri! :)
Or perhaps supplement enhanced colonics? In the style of a good old fashioned retention enema.
MtD
skeebo stop scaring us with these things ;D you might give someone ideas :D
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ByJseLaZovM/SwSjLexqMNI/AAAAAAAAB38/3wpYj-KOwZE/s400/Picture_1024.jpg)
skeebo stop scaring us with these things ;D someone might take this the wrong way :D
There are many vegetables that are loaded with vitamins and minerals that can be used as a dildo .
Red peppers are loaded with nutrients. Uh... Dude... You said loaded.
(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/livebythemoon/48f88ae8.jpg)
Red peppers are loaded with nutrients. Uh... Dude... You said load.
(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/livebythemoon/48f88ae8.jpg)
(http://www.whfoods.com/foodchart.php?id=50)
I wonder if they is good for teh HIV.
Kindly keep peter pipers angry red pepper peter away from me . But I love the bird !
My final comment in this thread is that i find it rather sad that many of you seem to treat hiv as a joke . If you want to have your fun and discuss sticking vegetables and dildos up each others arses then good for you but it should be in the off topic section. I am intrested in what people are taking as supplements as are many others but the thread has been intentionally ruined to the point where one has to read 5 arse fucking comments to every one vitamin comment. It might come as a surprise that not all readers want to read all that drivel.
Some of you live on here 24-7 are well informed and at ease with hiv, alot of us are newbies still dealing with it and learning about it , just because you post alot doesnt give you the right to abuse threads or fellow posters . i dont think anyone clicking on this site for the first time would be to impressed reading all this,im surprised the mods allow such mockery to be honest.
To help you along the way i have started a thread for you in the off topic section.
My final comment in this thread is that i find it rather sad that many of you seem to treat hiv as a joke . If you want to have your fun and discuss sticking vegetables and dildos up each others arses then good for you but it should be in the off topic section. I am intrested in what people are taking as supplements as are many others but the thread has been intentionally ruined to the point where one has to read 5 arse fucking comments to every one vitamin comment. It might come as a surprise that not all readers want to read all that drivel.
Some of you live on here 24-7 are well informed and at ease with hiv, alot of us are newbies still dealing with it and learning about it , just because you post alot doesnt give you the right to abuse threads or fellow posters . i dont think anyone clicking on this site for the first time would be to impressed reading all this,im surprised the mods allow such mockery to be honest.
To help you along the way i have started a thread for you in the off topic section.
My final comment in this thread is that i find it rather sad that many of you seem to treat hiv as a joke . If you want to have your fun and discuss sticking vegetables and dildos up each others arses then good for you but it should be in the off topic section. I am intrested in what people are taking as supplements as are many others but the thread has been intentionally ruined to the point where one has to read 5 arse fucking comments to every one vitamin comment. It might come as a surprise that not all readers want to read all that drivel.
Some of you live on here 24-7 are well informed and at ease with hiv, alot of us are newbies still dealing with it and learning about it , just because you post alot doesnt give you the right to abuse threads or fellow posters . i dont think anyone clicking on this site for the first time would be to impressed reading all this,im surprised the mods allow such mockery to be honest.
To help you along the way i have started a thread for you in the off topic section.
I've always enjoyed how the newly diagnosed seem to so easily think that those of us dealing with our HIV infections for +20 years are so clueless not to have discovered the magic potion supplement to make us better.
There isn't one.
You may all be right in that we are wasting our time and money looking for the secret formula to keep our CD4s up until we have to start, hopefully, new improved meds.talking about sex? Pot? Kettle? party of 2
If our doctors are on board and we run labs to see all is in order, what is the harm?
If we have the fundage to experiment on untried and new things, who have we hurt?
There are many new things on the market these days and other options that may not there a few years ago, maybe they will be of help? The newly infected need help to direct their searches and find their own way even if it is ultimately futile.
We newbies may be finding new research while the rest of the people gave up and talk about sex.
Comments from the jaded are not helpful, if you do not believe in this thread why be trolls?
Gays face enough hatred in the world, can't we be nice to our own kind and others in our situation?
Naive Hoover
Gays face enough hatred in the world, can't we be nice to our own kind and others in our situation?
well if you have the fundage, then fine go ahead.
Ah gotz da fundages 2. Any suppleemint for dat?
I've always enjoyed how the newly diagnosed seem to so easily think that those of us dealing with our HIV infections for +20 years are so clueless not to have discovered the magic potion supplement to make us better.
There isn't one.
Well well well . Why dont you tell us all and your gang members about the multi vit you take daily . You have stated this in the past , i hope they dont kick you out the gang now they know you take a multi vit.
Who said you are clueless not me . So stop trying to be smart your not ,your a sad person. The fact you change your picture on a weekly basis tells me all i need to know about you.
The fact you change your picture on a weekly basis tells me all i need to know about you.
That was simply vile, ignorant, and filled with your true essence: hatred (for yourself, the world, this "community," and everything around you). It is you who has truly shown the world what they need to know about you.
Thats so funny are you an actress cos you deserve an oscar for those dramatics hilarious, i simply stated the truth miss prissilia takes a multi vit ,honestly youve made my night your so funny lol.
Anyway catch you tommorow im going for supper ,thanks again brilliant.
The fact you change your picture on a weekly basis tells me all i need to know about you.
Comments from the jaded are not helpful, if you do not believe in this thread why be trolls?
Gays face enough hatred in the world, can't we be nice to our own kind and others in our situation?
Naive Hoover
So stop trying to be smart your not ,your a sad person.
Well well well . Why dont you tell us all and your gang members