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Author Topic: Semen into Rectum Through Sex Toy  (Read 3788 times)

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Offline wishmesafeforever

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Semen into Rectum Through Sex Toy
« on: January 11, 2013, 10:14:08 am »
Greetings,

I went to a massage parlor a few days ago in China and wonder whether it was an exposure to HIV. Any responses would be greatly appreciated.

Here are what happened:

(1) The CSW gave me a happy ending. She used a bottle to hold lubricants which according to her were made of milk and baby oil. The lubricant felt warm when it got onto my body.

(2) The lubricant bottle was shared among the CSWs in the parlor. She went out to get the bottle right before she gave me the hand job. It is possible that the outside of the bottle had semen or pre-ejaculate fluid from other customers, as the other CSW could have used it for other custmer right before and touched it with other people's semen on hands, and thus contaminated it.

(3) The CSW squeezed the lubricant (made of milk and baby oil) onto my penis and anal. She started the hand job. I am afraid her hands might have semen of other customers from the bottle outside.

(4) She took out a vibrator from a box (I am certain it has not been used for the last 30 minutes, if not longer). She sprayed some disinfecton onto the vibrator and wiped it with tissue before she put a condom (not sure about the quality and raw material of the condom) over it.

(5) She then inserted the vibrator into my anus (probably one inch deep) for 30 seconds. I am afriad along with the vibrator, some lubricants (milk + baby oild) contaminated with semen from other custmers might have gotten into my anal.

(6) 30 minutes BEFORE the session, I went to number two. After I wiped my anal with toilet paper, I saw a little blood on the tissue, as I did it too hard. I do not usually have anal fissure or hemorrhoid. I do not know whether that cut in the anal might increase the risk.

(7) I am afraid since milk has a similar ph level as human body, it might provide an ideal environment for HIV to sustain. Also, I am afraid the baby oild might have "shielded" the HIV+ semen from exposure to air.



Please kindly assess my risk for this potential exposure, assuming  the semen on the bottle might come from a HIV+ customer. Thanks everyone!!!

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Re: Semen into Rectum Through Sex Toy
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2013, 10:42:57 am »
HIV is a fragile virus. It is not transmitted in any of the ways you are worried about.

The ONLY confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. As long as you consistently use condoms properly for those activities you will be well protected.

There is no cause for concern this time and no need for testing.

Get on with your life. Really.
Andy Velez

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Re: Semen into Rectum Through Sex Toy
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2013, 05:46:23 am »
Andy,

Thank you for your reply. Please kindly allow me to ask some follow-ups:


(1) I was afraid that the milk provided an ideal environment for the HIV semen to survive. Since the bottle was brought in right before the session, it is likely that some fresh semen are still on it, and covered by lubricants (not being exposed to air, not dried, and thus still active).

(3) Does the warmth of the bottle help render the virus inactive? The lubricant felt warm on my body, so it had a temperature that was slightly higher than body's.

(4) Can I think of this scenario similar to INSERTIVE FINGERING which realistically has no risk? The vibrator is similar to the size of a middle finger. But I am afraid the semen it brought into my rectum is more than a finger could because semen might be covered with lubricants.

I really appreciate your comments. Thank you very much!

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Re: Semen into Rectum Through Sex Toy
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2013, 08:22:03 am »
wish,

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.

Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture content all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. For this reason, any cum on the outside - or even inside - of the bottle would not contain viable hiv.

You also would not have been infected from anything on the vibrator or the condom that covered it. You cannot become infected from hiv that has been outside the body. It just doesn't happen that way.

You have NOT had a risk for hiv infection.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST FOR HIV SPECIFICALLY OVER ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY WORRIED ABOUT, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: Semen into Rectum Through Sex Toy
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2013, 06:50:20 pm »
Thank you so much for your patience and understand. Please allow my very last follow-up.

(1)I understand that the virus cannot live upon exposure to air. For that to happen, the drying of semen cells needs to take place. However, if the semen is ejaculated directly into lubricant, there would be no drying (within 5 minutes) and thus the virus cannot be rendered inactive???

Not that I think someone ejaculated into the lubricant, but just wanna be sure that even if some semen on the outside of bottle were not exposed to air (not dry, covered by milk and baby oil), it would still be safe. Thank you.

(2) When you said "elements" do you refer to "air" only? or do you mean to include other environmental factors such as water and temperature?


Thank you again. This will really be my last question.

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Re: Semen into Rectum Through Sex Toy
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2013, 08:43:42 pm »
wish,

It isn't just "air" - moisture content - that renders the virus unable to infect, it's also the temperature and pH levels that damage hiv. The exact temperature, and pH and moisture content of the human body are all difficult to replicate outside of the human body.

Ask anyone who has worked in an hiv research lab. Part of the problem with hiv research is keeping hiv viable outside the body long enough to study it in depth.

Nobody has been infected in the way you're worried about and you are not going to be the first.

If you cannot bring yourself to believe us, go test and collect your negative result. As a sexually active adult, you should be testing at least once a year anyway.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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