HIV Outing Of A Gay Porn Star

[tednlou2]

Some of you may have already read this on poz.com.  I've seen this guy in movies and it is unfortunate that he now joins our ranks.  The article suggests he disclosed only after others outed his status.  The part I find so ridiculous is that they accused him of having unprotected sex due to the fact that he didn't change his HIV status to positive on his Adam4Adam page.  He may have just not had the chance to change the status.  Or, he wants to wait to get to know people first before disclosing.  I don't think you can blame someone for not changing their status.  He claims he has only had sex with others who are poz and has not been having sex with people who are negative.  The article mentions a friend who outed him as well and others being suspicious after he began to only do masturbation scenes.

http://blogs.poz.com/oriol/archives/2010/08/hiv_outing_of_gay_po.html 

[jcelvis]

As for the changing that status on A4A as I completely agree it's up to the individual, and no one should take the Hiv negative statement on Manhunt or A4A seriously.


As for "Mason" I've communicated with him online off and on for the past 4-5 years and as recently may/june when he claims to have found out he was poz. He's not particularly honest.

[jcelvis]

Plus he's lying about his sexual position. He is not versatile, he is all bottom.

[Miss Philicia]

Plus he's lying about his sexual position. He is not versatile, he is all bottom.

no one should take the sexual position statement on Manhunt or A4A seriously.

[jcelvis]

no one should take the sexual position statement on Manhunt or A4A seriously.

Maybe if he puts bottom, but all the others are subject to interpretation.

[Rev. Moon]

Experience has taught me that "versatile" on MH and/or a4a actually equals bottom.  Thereby he is not really lying.

[jkinatl2]

Experience has taught me that "versatile" on MH and/or a4a actually equals bottom.  Thereby he is not really lying.

To be exact, it really means that they can take it on their back OR stomach. So there's that.

[Miss Philicia]

I list "Cuntessa Maxima" on my profiles, just to be extra quirky.

[northernguy]

Porn stars were hotter in the good old days.

[GSOgymrat]

Aren't there lots of HIV+ people in porn?

[jkinatl2]

There are. I know of at least a few, from my own small subset of friends/former partners.

[mecch]

Plus he's lying about his sexual position. He is not versatile, he is all bottom.

Nonsense.  I never heard of this guy until two weeks ago when i downloaded by chance one of his pornos. He fucked the bejesus out of this adorable Belge twink.  

And Mason is drop dead gorgeous and sexy, and he looks like he's in total control of his sexuality, integrity, and public image.  Bravo.  Just too delicious for words.

[Grasshopper]

Nonsense.  I never heard of this guy until two weeks ago when i downloaded by chance one of his pornos. He fucked the bejesus out of this adorable Belge twink.  

And Mason is drop dead gorgeous and sexy, and he looks like he's in total control of his sexuality, integrity, and public image.  Bravo.  Just too delicious for words.

Great judge of character ! Some conclusion you draw, after downloading "by chance" just one of his pornos.   

[mecch]

That was the first. Followed by several.
And now his elegant, brief announcement about HIV.
Why would anyone who doesn't know him have an interest in saying he is "all bottom".  We only know his media productions, and I saw him do a very convincing top. So bug off!

[Grasshopper]

Is there anything wrong (control of his sexuality) with being a bottom   

Is being a bottom make one less of a person than being a top (integrity and public image) 

 

[Hellraiser]

So to get back to the point at hand...I don't think it was anyone's business to out his HIV status, but again the website IS called gayporngossip.com.

[Miss Philicia]

It's a little known fact that Miss P got gonorrhea from this very prolific porn star in the late 90's.  Now that was an interesting date -- we even had steak au poivre and an evening of drunken dancing at The Monster before doing the deed.  He's a top in most all of his videos, but when we got back to my place he was the most voracious bottom I've ever seen, and the sex went on for hours offering proof that Miss P can be quite the Expert Pig Top when duty demands.  And to top it off this was 1999 and he'd just won a Grabby for Best Ethnic Performer.  I met him while he was stripping at Escuelita, and during one of his breaks he came over and asked for my phone number and told me I looked like Brad Pitt -- as if!

I also bagged this one in 1996, twice even -- actually quite a good top.  He tied me up to a head board in a hotel in San Juan and I pulled it out of the wall.  He's a bit of a lush though, but he did buy me dinner on our second date so I guess he liked my ass.

Oh, and then my anal warts came from another porn star, but he only made a couple of videos and I think he made them the year after I scored him.  His name was Carlos and he banged me royally in a video booth.

Moral of the story -- don't sleep with porn stars because they will fuck you up!

[Dachshund]

Why would anyone who doesn't know him have an interest in saying he is "all bottom".  We only know his media productions, and I saw him do a very convincing top. So bug off!

Obviously it was "bug on" dearie.

[PeteNYNJ]

A gay porn star with HIV? clutch the pearls   

[denb45]

no one should take the sexual position statement on Manhunt or A4A seriously.

no one should take any website as a statement of fact, don't believe everything you read in those websites

[Florida69]

I just read a story regarding him yesterday.  http://www.advocate.com/News/News_Features/Mason_Wyler_Comes_Clean/

I have watched a couple of scenes with him, where he was a top and also seen a couple with him being a bottom.  i like his style for the most part, he is cute and likes it rough.  He was outed by a supposed friend who is trying to make a name for themself in the porn industry.  He is intelligent and I am sure that he will be fine.  Hopefully, he will use his celebrity to promote safer sex practices.  D

[AlanBama]

I try not to comment on twenty-something guys (as to their "hotness" or lack thereof) for fear of being called a "dirty old man".   I am so "out of the loop" on 'mainstream' gay porn, because all I see is Hot Desert Knights / Treasure Island Media, etc, that is all b/b and you assume EVERYONE is HIV+.

Porn stars were hotter in the good old days.

I have to agree with you on that.   Just wish they had had sense enough to devise better lighting in the 'old days'....

[Miss Philicia]

I never watch Treasure Island, but I love machofucker.com

Mason Wyler has a howdy doody twink face that makes my dick limp.

[mecch]

Great judge of character ! Some conclusion you draw, after downloading "by chance" just one of his pornos.   

On second thought.... 

Since I noticed him in the clip, and I don't even like twink porn.

And since I paid attention to this thread in AIDSMEDS.

I just had a peruse of his blog.  One drama after another.  He gets props for wearing his heart on his sleeve, and relentless honesty about his life.  But I guess he better toughen up a little now and "get real" given his age and porn prospects.  There is no other means of support mentioned in the blog. Though he says he used to dream of teaching history....

As for the HIV conversion, he's been writing for years about his need for cum, "seeding" and "breeding", dick and sex, and his sex addiction, so I guess this is the usual progression.  I hope he gets his mojo back, fucks again and makes some money in bareback porn, but I also hope he plans another future for himself.

OK I agree with the Howdy Doody esque face, by the way.  Still I think he sexy (in an Edward Norton kind of way) and its hot to watch him fucking.  Though I normally don't like twinks or blonds in porn.

[Boze]

While you guys are discussing positions, I have a question. Pls don't laugh - i'm serious and clearly don't know about this. A friend of mine has asked me this and I didn't know the answer - feel like this is the place I may get an explanation.

How does the "bottom" guy come? Does he find the rectal stimulation enough to ejaculate or the "top" manually stimulates him?

Tk u

[Hellraiser]

While you guys are discussing positions, I have a question. Pls don't laugh - i'm serious and clearly don't know about this. A friend of mine has asked me this and I didn't know the answer - feel like this is the place I may get an explanation.

How does the "bottom" guy come? Does he find the rectal stimulation enough to ejaculate or the "top" manually stimulates him?

Tk u

A gay bottom can sometimes be stimulated to orgasm without any penile stimulation whatsoever.  I can't speak for everyone but for me this is incredibly rare.  I find it's more mental than physical though, if I'm more turned on I can cum without touching my dick.  If I'm not well it might take a while and I'll have a death grip on it.

You know even as a straight man you can enjoy some prostate stimulation.  Ann, take it away!

[Miss Philicia]

Having heard that sodomy is unnatural I'm personally still in  he process of figuring out the orgasm angle to it all.  I just fake it and keep a tube of toothpaste hidden next to the bed.

[mecch]

How does the "bottom" guy come? Does he find the rectal stimulation enough to ejaculate or the "top" manually stimulates him?

Um, why this question in this thread?

___________

Next time you play with yourself or the ladies, think about all the possible places that could be stimulated besides your head or shaft.  Haven't you noticed you can have orgasms that seem to principally come from other places, even if your dick is being stimulated? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Male_anatomy.png

[GSOgymrat]

A gay bottom can sometimes be stimulated to orgasm without any penile stimulation whatsoever.  I can't speak for everyone but for me this is incredibly rare.

It is not that uncommon, in my experience.

[Dachshund]

i'm serious and clearly don't know about this.

Yeah right. Have your "girlfriend" stick her finger or a dildo in your butt and find out. Tell her it's a research project.

[texas_stud]

boze. dude. fuck you. im not gay but your question is very ignorant & disrespecful to gay guys.
if you are so curious just have another dude plug you. youll probably love it.

gino

[Boze]

I saw you guys were discussing tops/bottoms, so I figured i'd pipe up. I was uncomfortable starting a new thread

So the answers seem to indicate that 'no shaft orgasm' happens sometimes - but what happens 'the rest of  the time'? Does the top manually stimulate the bottom or the bottom just doesn't come? I'm just trying to understand the dynamics of it. Clearly we know how the top reaches an orgasm - but what about the bottom?

Myself - I need total stimulation of the dickhead to orgasm - 100%. I can find other caressing pleasurable but it won't produce an orgasm. Hence my puzzlement.

Texas/Dachshund - i don't get your animosity. I simply asked how people reach an orgasm and you get all aggressive. Just to be clear - I have no agenda, nothing written between the lines - simply curious.

[mecch]

Apply the curiousity to your own anatomy. Everyone is different how they can get off.  Men have as many differences as women have.

[Dachshund]

I saw you guys were discussing tops/bottoms, so I figured i'd pipe up. I was uncomfortable starting a new thread

So the answers seem to indicate that 'no shaft orgasm' happens sometimes - but what happens 'the rest of  the time'? Does the top manually stimulate the bottom or the bottom just doesn't come? I'm just trying to understand the dynamics of it. Clearly we know how the top reaches an orgasm - but what about the bottom?

Myself - I need total stimulation of the dickhead to orgasm - 100%. I can find other caressing pleasurable but it won't produce an orgasm. Hence my puzzlement.

Texas/Dachshund - i don't get your animosity. I simply asked how people reach an orgasm and you get all aggressive. Just to be clear - I have no agenda, nothing written between the lines - simply curious.

I'll play your silly little game. They come the same way a "straight" man comes when the woman massages his prostate, but you already knew that. If you're that bicurious go fuck yourself with a dildo and find out. It will all become crystal clear darling.

[Hellraiser]

I'm really unsure why Boze is being met with such animosity.  I know a ton of straight men who have no concept of putting anything into their ass.  All he asked was a question and he asked it in very PC terms.  What gives with all the put-on offense?

[Boze]

WTF? Out of 6 ppl who replied:

1 told me 'fuck you'. This was his post #5 on the forum , btw, post #4 said 'there are so many mean ppl here, i may not stay long'
1 said something I couldn't even decipher
3 told me to try anal sex
2 gave real, honest answers

Is this some sort of a secret? Clearly most ppl here know the answer, why not just explain it?

[Rev. Moon]

Bozus,

Some straight fellas (which you are) enjoy being rimmed by their female partners.  Why don't you try that and provide a full report to this supposed friend of yours.

By the way, I don't think that Auntie D.'s comment was offensive.  It was just a suggestion.

Have fun while exploring the wild side.

[Hellraiser]

On a side note:  This is the one conversation where "Go fuck yourself" is actually good advice.

[Miss Philicia]

I'm really unsure why Boze is being met with such animosity.  I know a ton of straight men who have no concept of putting anything into their ass.  All he asked was a question and he asked it in very PC terms.  What gives with all the put-on offense?

Probably because in the past he made a post about anal sex being "unnatural" which earned him an admonishment from the powers that be.  Context here is important.

[Hellraiser]

Probably because in the past he made a post about anal sex being "unnatural" which earned him an admonishment from the powers that be.  Context here is important.

Oh, I never saw that one, that's actually kind of funny.

[Dachshund]

WTF? Out of 6 ppl who replied:

1 told me 'fuck you'. This was his post #5 on the forum , btw, post #4 said 'there are so many mean ppl here, i may not stay long'
1 said something I couldn't even decipher
3 told me to try anal sex
2 gave real, honest answers

Is this some sort of a secret? Clearly most ppl here know the answer, why not just explain it?

Honey I'm serious. Take anything that will fit (not your head) and stick it up your ass and masturbate your little pee-pee. Wham bam thank you maam, you'll have your answer.

[Miss Philicia]

Honey I'm serious. Take anything that will fit (not your head) and stick it up your ass and masturbate your little pee-pee. Wham bam thank you maam, you'll have your answer.

Might be time to haul out that xxx-tra large screwdriver.

[Rev. Moon]

Honey I'm serious. Take anything that will fit (not your head) and stick it up your ass

 

[mecch]

He should start his own thread on the topic.
Poor Mason did nothing to merit this hijack.  Is he that uninteresting?

This forum is public, how would you like this to be your debut as a new HIV+ person in this forum (if he happens to be reading, or would happen to want to join).  Jeez

[Nestor]

Years ago a straight woman friend asked me the same exact question Boze asks here, but when I started to answer she started squirming uncomfortably and shoulting "TMI!  TMI!", which, come to think of it, is what she generally did whenver anything gay-related came up.  

Boze, there are really only two answers.  Either manual stimulation is necessary (and I suspect it is most of the time) or the stimulation of the prostate is sufficient (which apparently is common for some and rare for others.)  

Of course there's no law against the top giving the bottom a blow job after he's through himself, either.  

[GSOgymrat]

It is not uncommon for straight men to get anally stimulated. A female friend of mine said that sticking her finger up her boyfriend's ass and massaging his prostate while giving a blow job is one of her favorite tricks: "It is great because it makes him shoot right away and I don't want to be down there all night."

[AaronbytheC]

"It is great because it makes him shoot right away and I don't want to be down there all night."

Amen!  It's like a ripcord when your mouth gets tired!   

[WillyWump]

Apprently Im the only one that masturbates when bottoming, and no I dont want the top doing it for me.

[Miss Philicia]

Apprently Im the only one that masturbates when bottoming, and no I dont want the top doing it for me.

No, I'm the same way -- and so are 98% of the guys in porn videos.  I think the queens here just don't know what they're going on about.

[Rev. Moon]

No, I'm the same way -- and so are 98% of the guys in porn videos.  I think the queens here just don't know what they're going on about.

It's an act.  They probably think that they're going to lose their power bottom crown.  I've yet to meet the first queen who doesn't play with their Twinkie while getting dicked.

I touch myself.

[Hellraiser]

It's an act.  They probably think that they're going to lose their power bottom crown.  I've yet to meet the first queen who doesn't play with their Twinkie while getting dicked.

I touch myself.

Who said they didn't?  I admitted I can go into a deathgrip position.

[Nestor]

It's an act.  They probably think that they're going to lose their power bottom crown.  I've yet to meet the first queen who doesn't play with their Twinkie while getting dicked.

I touch myself.

How can you touch yourself when your hands are tied to the headboard?

[Hellraiser]

How can you touch yourself when your hands are tied to the headboard?

Someone's speaking my language

[Rev. Moon]

How can you touch yourself when your hands are tied to the headboard?

Ooh Nestor, I never took you for a kinky gal.  For some reason I thought you were all about vanilla missionary positions.

[Miss Philicia]

Ooh Nestor, I never took you for a kinky gal.  For some reason I thought you were all about vanilla missionary positions.

... and doilies

[tednlou2]

It is not uncommon for straight men to get anally stimulated. A female friend of mine said that sticking her finger up her boyfriend's ass and massaging his prostate while giving a blow job is one of her favorite tricks: "It is great because it makes him shoot right away and I don't want to be down there all night."

I've had at least 8 female friends who said their man likes a finger up his butt.  One said her man like for her to wear a strap-on.  I was really surprised by this as I thought straight guys felt anything up the butt would mean they are gay.  I guess they are secure with their sexuality and know what feels good.  Some of them could be a little bi.

About getting off without touching yourself----  I've been told my junk is so big that I make all my tricks bust a nut without touching themselves         

[Miss Philicia]

I've been told my junk is so big that I make all my tricks bust a nut without touching themselves   

Barbara please

[Hellraiser]

I've had at least 8 female friends who said their man likes a finger up his butt.  One said her man like for her to wear a strap-on.  I was really surprised by this as I thought straight guys felt anything up the butt would mean they are gay.  I guess they are secure with their sexuality and know what feels good.  Some of them could be a little bi.

About getting off without touching yourself----  I've been told my junk is so big that I make all my tricks bust a nut without touching themselves         

Just because you enjoy the physical sensation of having something up your butt doesn't make you gay, it just makes you sexually adventurous.  Being sexually attracted to men makes you gay (or bi)

[Rev. Moon]

I need to lie down.  Too many revelations for one night.  Bozus wants to know what it feels like for a girl.  Nestor likes to play Sharon Stone.  And Dorothea is a top??!!

Someone please pass me my poppers.

[skeebo1969]

I've had at least 8 female friends who said their man likes a finger up his butt.  One said her man like for her to wear a strap-on.  I was really surprised by this as I thought straight guys felt anything up the butt would mean they are gay.  I guess they are secure with their sexuality and know what feels good.  Some of them could be a little bi.

Naw man, my butt don't need no fingering...

My second wife was a freak....  she wanted to lick mah butthole.  Yes... I tried it and I was like wtf??  It was really weird and she was really into it....  I didnt know what the fuck to do.   I didnt know if I was suppose to moan or crap in her face.  Looking back on it, I shoulda crapped in her face.  Damn girl put me through hell.  

I don't like my butthole played with and lying on my back with her looking up past my nuts was a strange experience indeed.   Now when we argue I tell her, "go lick Ray's (her man) ass ya nasty biotch".... pisses her off every time.  She use to also like to watch me plow other women, but they had to be blondes..  and she never wanted me to screw around with other black women though, and that sucked.

Now on the otherhand.. I love to lick a woman's butt, but it's hard to find ones that likes it.

[Miss Philicia]

I don't like my butthole played with

Tell that to the big leather daddy that slipped poz juice up your poop hole years ago.

[skeebo1969]

Tell that to the big leather daddy that slipped poz juice up your poop hole years ago.

You mean officer in blue, get it right biotch.

[madbrain]

As for the changing that status on A4A as I completely agree it's up to the individual, and no one should take the Hiv negative statement on Manhunt or A4A seriously.

Most people do not even check the HIV status in profiles anyway. On one occasion, I met someone, and only after the deed was done (safely) did it become apparent that he hadn't read that part. I don't know how hard one has to try to disclose. But clearly, the profiles are not the right way to do it. At least, they are not sufficient. People only look at the pictures most of the time.

I think one guy had the right idea - I saw one profile recently of a guy who photoshopped the word "HIV" on top of his head in his picture. Along with a sentence that he only barebacked. You can be sure nobody who looked at his profile missed that one. But why not use stars while we are at it ? Or maybe a red ribbon piercing ? Hell, that probably still wouldn't work, given the number of guys I have chatted with that don't even have a clue what the word "poz" means.

[Boze]

Ok, thanks all for clearing it up. So basically it seems that bottoms enjoy anal penetration but in order to come (most of the time) they have to masturbate at the same time.


Re other things

--This has nothing to do with me or my predilections. I have no interest in putting anything down there - but I am intellectually curious about everything, so used the opportunity to inquire from people who know. Alternatively - if you know of any reasonable book/site that explains this would be great.

--My comment re 'natural' sex was a joke. Which I feel I should explain. Sex can be thought of in two dimensions - one as a form of procreation, the other as a form of recreation. As far as the first dimension - there is only one natural act which results in insemination. That's just a fact, a matter of definition. Any other act - oral sex/anal sex/ear sex (?) can be called unnatural, but only in a very narrow sense. (By the way, that's where the word onanism comes from, if you want to look up the biblical story)
As far as recreation - people can get off a million different ways. And here the term 'natural' is relative - based on whatever is appealing to the individual uttering the word. So any act that one doesn't care for can be called unnatural - but it only means "I personally don't get turned on by it".

[Nestor]

Ok, thanks all for clearing it up. So basically it seems that bottoms enjoy anal penetration but in order to come (most of the time) they have to masturbate at the same time.

Or, better yet be masturbated by the partner.  My "hands tied to the headboard" comment last night was largely in jest, but I am not of the "I touch myself" camp for two reasons.  First, I can do that when I'm by myself.  Why would I want to do it when I have someone else there to do it for me?  And second, if I'm attracted to the guy I'm with (and if I weren't attracted to him I wouldn't be with him in the first place) my hands want to be on his body, not on my own.  

[Miss Philicia]

--My comment re 'natural' sex was a joke. Which I feel I should explain. Sex can be thought of in two dimensions - one as a form of procreation, the other as a form of recreation. As far as the first dimension - there is only one natural act which results in insemination. That's just a fact, a matter of definition. Any other act - oral sex/anal sex/ear sex (?) can be called unnatural, but only in a very narrow sense. (By the way, that's where the word onanism comes from, if you want to look up the biblical story)
As far as recreation - people can get off a million different ways. And here the term 'natural' is relative - based on whatever is appealing to the individual uttering the word. So any act that one doesn't care for can be called unnatural - but it only means "I personally don't get turned on by it".

If it happens in nature, it's natural.

[Boze]

Or, better yet be masturbated by the partner.  My "hands tied to the headboard" comment last night was largely in jest, but I am not of the "I touch myself" camp for two reasons.  First, I can do that when I'm by myself.  Why would I want to do it when I have someone else there to do it for me?  And second, if I'm attracted to the guy I'm with (and if I weren't attracted to him I wouldn't be with him in the first place) my hands want to be on his body, not on my own. 

Gotcha, thanks. Wouldn't it be hard, though, for the ''top" to pump away AND masturbate effectively simultaneously? Relying on own experience, I can do some stuff with my hands while pumping, but I doubt I could bring a partner to an orgasm like that alone.

If it happens in nature, it's natural.

A large percent of  adult carnivorous fathers would gladly eat their young cubs if the mother didn't stop them (lions, bears, others). Does that make it natural?
I'm not saying act X is unnatural, only showing how the 'happens in nature-> is natural' argument is specious imho.

[Rev. Moon]

Gotcha, thanks. Wouldn't it be hard, though, for the ''top" to pump away AND masturbate effectively simultaneously? Relying on own experience, I can do some stuff with my hands while pumping, but I doubt I could bring a partner to an orgasm like that alone.


A large percent of  adult carnivorous fathers would gladly eat their young cubs if the mother didn't stop them (lions, bears, others). Does that make it natural?
I'm not saying act X is unnatural, only showing how the 'happens in nature-> is natural' argument is specious imho.

Rubbish. The whole of it.

Oh Nestor, I'm sure that if your legs are up like a V, or if you're getting fucked doggy style, your voracious top is not going to have much of a way to stroke your chorizo.

And let's be honest, while a guy is pumping away the last concern in his mind is going to be whether you need to be jacked off or not. So don't go round claiming that you're not part of the Divinyls camp. It just does not convince me.

[denb45]

Gotcha, thanks. Wouldn't it be hard, though, for the ''top" to pump away AND masturbate effectively simultaneously? Relying on own experience, I can do some stuff with my hands while pumping, but I doubt I could bring a partner to an orgasm like that alone.

 Really, I've done this a lot of times with many partners where we both came to orgasm at the same time....so, it is possible, and it can be done  

[Miss Philicia]

I always orgasm before the top and then I push him off of me.  If he's wise he goes home.

[Rev. Moon]

I always orgasm before the top and then I push him off of me.  If he's wise he goes home.

Now, that makes sense. Or they can jack it off really quickly, cum on my chest, and get the fuck out.

[denb45]

I always orgasm before the top and then I push him off of me.  If he's wise he goes home.

I always feel that if my sex partner doesn't cum, to me it feels like something is missing, and if a guy cannot get hard and cum, that's just a little to strange for me , so, I won't do it a 2nd time with them, and if i do see them out and about and they notice me, I RUN LIKE HELL 

[phildinftlaudy]

I always orgasm before the top and then I push him off of me.  If he's wise he goes home.

I am a proud virgin 

[Nestor]

Gotcha, thanks. Wouldn't it be hard, though, for the ''top" to pump away AND masturbate effectively simultaneously? Relying on own experience, I can do some stuff with my hands while pumping, but I doubt I could bring a partner to an orgasm like that alone.

Well, it's like saying I eat a steak and drink a glass of wine, together.  I'm not exactly doing both simultaneously, but close enough.

[Grasshopper]

How do the producers of gay bareback movies manage to circumvent this rule ? Or why were they not targetted by the AIDS activist group ?

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/08/26/aids-activist-group-files-complaint-larry-flynt-condoms/

"Federal law requires that all porn actors be tested for HIV 30 days before the start of filming"

(I am a fervent downloader of bareback porn....MF Russian daddy next Aug. 29th   )

[Miss Philicia]

How do the producers of gay bareback movies manage to circumvent this rule ? Or why were they not targetted by the AIDS activist group ?

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/08/26/aids-activist-group-files-complaint-larry-flynt-condoms/

"Federal law requires that all porn actors be tested for HIV 30 days before the start of filming"

(I am a fervent downloader of bareback porn....MF Russian daddy next Aug. 29th   )

1) how do you know that they circumvent that law?

2) I'd assume that they're targeting straight porn because it's a larger volume of production, plus it's 99% bareback whereas gay porn is a smaller total volume of work, and probably only 35% of it is bareback, and half of the bareback is produced overseas (I'm just making up those numbers but since I've been a porn addict since the age of 17 they can't be wildly off)

[phildinftlaudy]

I always orgasm before the top and then I push him off of me.  If he's wise he goes home.

or in my case, he best move on to the next stall/booth   

[Matty the Damned]

When it comes to porn and HIV I have three words:

Raw Desert Knights.

MtD

[Miss Philicia]

No darling, it's about the 11" Jamaican and Haitian cock on machofucker.

[Matty the Damned]

No darling, it's about the 11" Jamaican and Haitian cock on machofucker.

Not the busload of twinks with bad butch accents?

MtD

[Miss Philicia]

Not the busload of twinks with bad butch accents?

MtD

I slash the throats of Czech twinks in my sustiva dreams.

[phildinftlaudy]

No darling, it's about the 11" Jamaican and Haitian cock on machofucker.

<loud applause>
<shouts of encore>

[Dachshund]

Gotcha, thanks. Wouldn't it be hard, though, for the ''top" to pump away AND masturbate effectively simultaneously? Relying on own experience, I can do some stuff with my hands while pumping, but I doubt I could bring a partner to an orgasm like that alone.


A large percent of  adult carnivorous fathers would gladly eat their young cubs if the mother didn't stop them (lions, bears, others). Does that make it natural?
I'm not saying act X is unnatural, only showing how the 'happens in nature-> is natural' argument is specious imho.

What percent please provide your statistics? Oh and the Great Dane next door would be happy to show you how humping takes place in nature. Believe me you won't needs your hands. 

[phildinftlaudy]

What percent please provide your statistics? Oh and the Great Dane next door would be happy to show you how humping takes place in nature. Believe me you won't needs your hands. 

Great Danes are some sexy ass dogs - as far as dogs go that is - I'm just sayin' 

[Boze]

What percent please provide your statistics? Oh and the Great Dane next door would be happy to show you how humping takes place in nature. Believe me you won't needs your hands. 

animal infanticide: http://en.allexperts.com/q/Wild-Animals-705/Animals-kill-young.htm

Regarding humping and hands - it's not the actual use of hands but rather concentration. If I have to do much with my hands I find it hard to concentrate.

[Dachshund]

If I have to do much with my hands I find it hard to concentrate.

I don't think it's your hands dear.

[mecch]

Once again, poor Mason Wyler.  

Ted opens a thread with some empathy for this guy who is outed by some vengeful ex-lover, and is the victim of vicious rumors by the gay gossips who report his HIV status.  

He's quickly dismissed as uninteresting (and a total bottom).    More interesting to tackle the important topics of gay porn stars we have screwed, and the ins and outs of gay orgasms.

Grasshopper makes a late entry to try to get it back somewhat on topic.  The complaint against Larry Flynt has an interesting sexual politics.

But the thread degenerates into banter about bestiality.

[Dachshund]

Once again, poor Mason Wyler.  

Ted opens a thread with some empathy for this guy who is outed by some vengeful ex-lover, and is the victim of vicious rumors by the gay gossips who report his HIV status.  

He's quickly dismissed as uninteresting (and a total bottom).    More interesting to tackle the important topics of gay porn stars we have screwed, and the ins and outs of gay orgasms.

Grasshopper makes a late entry to try to get it back somewhat on topic.  The complaint against Larry Flynt has an interesting sexual politics.

But the thread degenerates into banter about bestiality.

Then don't read it if it upsets your dainty little sensibilties. Just like you (however ponderous) everyone has the same right as you do to post what they want withen forum guidelines. God your lectures get fucking tedious.

[mecch]

Then don't read my lectures. You're my greatest fan, can't bear to block me?  Now go back to your dog sex brilliancy and vulgar vocabulary and forget about me and the topic here.  Way to shine for the world!
So proud this is a public forum and we all put our best capacity out there.

[Dachshund]

Then don't read my lectures. You're my greatest fan, can't bear to block me?  Now go back to your dog sex brilliancy and vulgar vocabulary and forget about me and the topic here.

Block you and miss my daily dose of vapid? Not on a mutherfuckin dog's dick would I do that.

[mecch]

Pot calling kettle? LOL

HMM, "pondering" the heap of shit some harebrained gaytards dumped on this cute guy's career, and maybe the politics of bareback sex in gay porn versus straight porn.  Or, sex with dogs.  Which is vapid again?

I guess both are.

[Nestor]

Once again, poor Mason Wyler.  

Ted opens a thread with some empathy for this guy who is outed by some vengeful ex-lover, and is the victim of vicious rumors by the gay gossips who report his HIV status.  

He's quickly dismissed as uninteresting (and a total bottom).    More interesting to tackle the important topics of gay porn stars we have screwed, and the ins and outs of gay orgasms.

Grasshopper makes a late entry to try to get it back somewhat on topic.  The complaint against Larry Flynt has an interesting sexual politics.

But the thread degenerates into banter about bestiality.

Mecch, is it any different from real life?  Two serious people who both care about a topic can pursue it in an organized way in a long conversation.  But as soon as there's a group of people around a table, getting them to stick to a topic is like herding cats.  

And besides, I really don't think poor Mason Wyler is being hurt by the fact that a thread to discuss his problem has devolved into sexual banter.  He's a porn actor, after all.  I didn't say anything on topic because there was nothing to say that wouldn't have been completely obvious and banal.  Yes, it was terrible that people "outed" him.  Of course it's horrible that the kid has HIV.  Those things go without saying.  And what else is there to say about it?  

[Dachshund]

Pot calling kettle? LOL

HMM, "pondering" the heap of shit some harebrained gaytards dumped on this cute guy's career, and maybe the politics of bareback sex in gay porn versus straight porn.  Or, sex with dogs.  Which is vapid again?

I guess both are.

No, just you.

[mecch]

Mecch, is it any different from real life?  Two serious people who both care about a topic can pursue it in an organized way in a long conversation.  But as soon as there's a group of people around a table, getting them to stick to a topic is like herding cats.  

And besides, I really don't think poor Mason Wyler is being hurt by the fact that a thread to discuss his problem has devolved into sexual banter.  He's a porn actor, after all.  I didn't say anything on topic because there was nothing to say that wouldn't have been completely obvious and banal.  Yes, it was terrible that people "outed" him.  Of course it's horrible that the kid has HIV.  Those things go without saying.  And what else is there to say about it?  

I think what you finally just wrote isn't banal. It's thoughtful.

Real life conversations do meander around, and they are in real time, and thus synchronous.  They don't have topics, threads, and the asynchronous chance to think about what we are saying and where.

Go ahead and resume the cocktail, no problem.  

I was just piping in out of respect for the guy, since I had just bothered to go and listen to him speaking about his career and self, on Youtube, with his clothes on, pre "outing".   He's not all that fascinating, but he became real to me, and not just an abstraction/image that we normally think of as a "gay porn star".

I read his blog too, a few days ago, that's the last time I posted in this thread.

[WillyWump]

can we PLEASE get back to the 11" MAchococks vs. Czech Twinks. i was just getting interested.


-Willemina

[Ann]

Mecch, threads meander. Get over it. You've been guilty of taking threads off topic yourself numerous times, so spare us the lectures. Geeze.

[phildinftlaudy]

can we PLEASE get back to the 11" MAchococks vs. Czech Twinks. i was just getting interested.


-Willemina

I was kind of hoping to get back to the sexiness of great danes..... oh well, the night is young.

[WillyWump]

Mecch, threads meander. Get over it. You've been guilty of taking threads off topic yourself numerous times, so spare us the lectures. Geeze.

yes ma'am

[phildinftlaudy]

yes ma'am

?? 
I think Ann was talking to mecch 
Now I'm confused ----
Great danes please, great danes please -  I will find a way to tie it back into the OP - promise   

[mecch]

Guilty on the hijack accusation, of course.  

Don't regret my comments here about the stupidity of a public AIDSMEDS forum discussing sex with dogs in this thread.   (As I already said above....Yes threads meander!)

But by all means, go on. Scintillating.

[Matty the Damned]

We can has funky dog pr0nz? (NSFW)

MtD

[phildinftlaudy]

Guilty on the hijack accusation, of course.  

Don't regret my comments here about the stupidity of a public AIDSMEDS forum discussing sex with dogs in this thread.   (As I already said above....Yes threads meander!)

But by all means, go on. Scintillating.

If - and it is a big IF the reference to discussing sex with dogs is supposed to be directed towards any of my posts about great danes then I really have to agree that you need to READ what someone has written prior to making certain statements.  My responses have talked about the sexiness of the great dane as a dog - no where have I said anything about sex with great danes or any other type of bestiality.

My responses many times are just part of the overall part of topic development and discussion in an online community forum.  As for relevance - if I go directly to Tex's thread regarding should I tell, I note that you have no problem going into a dissertation on large penises and the fit of condoms - I don't know how that relates to the OP asking whether he should disclose....

Anyway, I stand by my post about great danes being sexy dogs.  If you infere bestiality out of that reference then so be it.  One thing I know  is that my responses and posts are directed at either helping others, asking for help/advice for situations I may be in, or adding a little bit of levity to a life circumstance that many times can make it difficult to do so.  

[mecch]

I will find a way to tie it back into the OP - promise   

Bravo that's the spirit. If you can do it, I'll be honored to send you the Baudrillard Award for Brilliant Semiotics, a copy of Freud's Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality.

[mecch]

 One thing I know  is that my responses and posts are directed at either helping others, asking for help/advice for situations I may be in, or adding a little bit of levity to a life circumstance that many times can make it difficult to do so.  

I'm all for that, and I don't think anyone is being hurt in this thread by the way.

[mecch]

Anyway, I stand by my post about great danes being sexy dogs.  If you infere bestiality out of that reference then so be it.  

You're right! I should have written dog sex, not sex with dogs.

[WillyWump]

?? 
I think Ann was talking to mecch 
Now I'm confused ----
Great danes please, great danes please -  I will find a way to tie it back into the OP - promise   

oh, ok then! Ill take that as a green light to commence with the derailin'

w

[phildinftlaudy]

You're right! I should have written dog sex, not sex with dogs.

Sex with dogs = No
Dog sex = No   

Neither of these were part of my posts.

The great dane is a sexy dog was my post - several times over.

[Rev. Moon]

Sex with dogs = No
Dog sex = No   

Neither of these were part of my posts.

The great dane is a sexy dog was my post - several times over.

Philomena dahling, why do you even bother feeeding into the tedious lectures of professor Mecha?  If he says something inapproriate it is ok; if somebody else does he hits that rep to mod button at the speed of light. If somebody uses profanity he gets all bent out of shape; but it is ok for him to talk about dicks, cocks, fucking, etc. If someone says something that's not full of smileys his panties get all bunched up; but we have to put up with the three page lectures (or be told that we can put him on ignore). It may be all about Mecha in Mechaland, but these are the AM Forums so we do as we please -- not as he dictates (he even has the cheek to lecture Ann --byotch, please).

So there.  I had to speak my mind.

Ps./ How to unbunch your panties:

1. Grip the fabric of your undergarment at the lower back edge towards each hip.

2. Pull out and away from the body.

3. Continue to pull until the uncomfortable wad of fabric is fully released from between your buttocks.

4. Now change. Those suckers are filthy from clench sweat.

[mecch]

Oh and the Great Dane next door would be happy to show you how humping takes place in nature. Believe me you won't needs your hands. 

Dog sex: Yes.
Where did I accuse you of that. It was Dachshund. 

[Dachshund]

Dog sex: Yes.
Where did I accuse you of that. It was Dachshund. 

Wrong again Gretchen. It's obvious you don't read before posting because if you had you would know my "Great Dane" reference was to the post Boze made. Someone's Swiss cuckoo clock is wound way too tight.

[skeebo1969]

Dog sex: Yes.

I didn't read the rest of the thread or your post, but if it's dog sex you want I got a pitbull for ya:




Look at them damn nuts!!

Is that enough emoticons btw?  If not let me know and I'll edit the post.

[Hellraiser]

I didn't read the rest of the thread or your post, but if it's dog sex you want I got a pitbull for ya:




Look at them damn nuts!!

Is that enough emoticons btw?  If not let me know and I'll edit the post.

Skeebo I'm so proud of you right now, there's a single tear rolling down my cheek.

[skeebo1969]

Skeebo I'm so proud of you right now, there's a single tear rolling down my cheek.

LOL I see the pic has done a lot for pitbull votes in your other thread.

[phildinftlaudy]

Skeebo I'm so proud of you right now, there's a single tear rolling down my cheek.

I'm actually still trying to deciphor the picture - I have looked at it every which way - turned my laptop from side to side - could I perhaps have one with arrows and labels please    Thanks for your understanding!   

[skeebo1969]

I'm actually still trying to deciphor the picture - I have looked at it every which way - turned my laptop from side to side - could I perhaps have one with arrows and labels please    Thanks for your understanding!   

I had the same problem last night looking at some Jane Mansfield photos.  The poster of the pics said that was the top of her head but all I saw was a big hole.

[lost_boy]

This is probably off topic by now, but I feel bad for Mason Wyler, nobody really deserves to be outed like that. A lot of the reaction underscores a lot of prejudice that is out there, and it really does blow. I guess I'm more sympathetic as I am in a similar recently diagnosed position.

It's funny because when chatting to my mates at the weekend, who dont yet know that I'm HIV+, one of them went on a massive rant about how angry he would be if he found a former partner had HIV and didnt let him know, or how sick he would be if he found out he slept with someone with HIV, etc etc. I know for a fact he's a pretty promiscuous guy and being on his high horse didnt really ring true with his general behaviour in life. I kind of feel that's how a lot of these bloggers probably are. Anyway...

I slash the throats of Czech twinks in my sustiva dreams.

lol 

[vaboi]

How does the "bottom" guy come? Does he find the rectal stimulation enough to ejaculate or the "top" manually stimulates him?

Tk u

I always wondered this when I first came out and started messing around.  The answer is simple, at least for me.  You get off watching (or feeling) the other hottie getting off in you.   It's like watching a porn, but better because you are a part of it.  Of course the hotter the hottie, the less one even has to masturbate to get off.  lol

[gregftl]

I saw the post earlier on how a bottom cums. I have anal orgasms......from my prostate. While i'm taking it doggy style i prefer to be soft b/c the anal orgasms are so much more intense.

[Jeff G]

I saw the post earlier on how a bottom cums. I have anal orgasms......from my prostate. While i'm taking it doggy style i prefer to be soft b/c the anal orgasms are so much more intense.

You would definitely need a local response for that to happen 

[Boze]

I saw the post earlier on how a bottom cums. I have anal orgasms......from my prostate. While i'm taking it doggy style i prefer to be soft b/c the anal orgasms are so much more intense.

Thanks for explaining.

[Boze]

You would definitely need a local response for that to happen 

What does it mean?

[Jeff G]

What does it mean?

It was a tongue and cheek response in reference to another thread of his . I was playing .

Don't worry buddy , I wasn't talking about another mysterious male G - spot you may be missing out on .   

[Boze]

It was a tongue and cheek response in reference to another thread of his . I was playing .

Don't worry buddy , I wasn't talking about another mysterious male G - spot you may be missing out on .   

Ahh, no probs, thanks.