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I have my blood draw tomorrow and normally the nurse will handwrite write "Fast for 24 hours" on the sheet, but none of the sheets have the notation..I dont always have to fast but its been so long since my last test that I figured I would have too again this time.
Hepatitis A antibody Total
Hepatitis B cOre Antibody Total.
Hepatitis B Surface antibody.
Hepatitis B Surface Antigen
Chlamydia Trachomatis NAAT
Neisseria Gonorrhea NAAT
Quanititative Tb Gold
Vitamin D 25 Hydroxy
Complete Blood Count with Diff
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile
HIV-1 RNA PCS
Immunodeficiency Panel
RPR
Testosterone Free
I hate fasting and I am a real ass when I have to fast and would like to avoid it if at all possible.
-W
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I have my blood draw tomorrow and normally the nurse will handwrite write "Fast for 24 hours" on the sheet, but none of the sheets have the notation..I dont always have to fast but its been so long since my last test that I figured I would have too again this time.
Also, what test is it that you have to fast for?
Hepatitis A antibody Total
Hepatitis B cOre Antibody Total.
Hepatitis B Surface antibody.
Hepatitis B Surface Antigen
Chlamydia Trachomatis NAAT
Neisseria Gonorrhea NAAT
Quanititative Tb Gold
Vitamin D 25 Hydroxy
Complete Blood Count with Diff
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile
HIV-1 RNA PCS
Immunodeficiency Panel
RPR
Testosterone Free
I hate fasting and I am a real ass when I have to fast and would like to avoid it if at all possible.
-W
From what I know from taking these tests:
Hepatitis A antibody Total Don't have to fast
Hepatitis B cOre Antibody Total. Don't have to fast
Hepatitis B Surface antibody. Don't have to fast
Hepatitis B Surface Antigen Don't have to fast
Chlamydia Trachomatis NAAT Don't have to fast
Neisseria Gonorrhea NAAT Don't have to fast
Quanititative Tb Gold Don't have to fast
Vitamin D 25 Hydroxy Not sure
Complete Blood Count with Diff Fast
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile Fast
HIV-1 RNA PCS Don't have to fast
Immunodeficiency Panel Don't have to fast
RPR Don't have to fast
Testosterone Free Not sure
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From what I know from taking these tests:
Complete Blood Count with Diff Fast
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile Fast
Dammit. I guess I better start eating, I have till midnight to get good and stuffed.
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I have to have some food with my morning meds so I never fast.
ps: ARE YOU HAVING A LIPID PANEL DONE? ::)
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I have to have some food with my morning meds so I never fast.
ps: ARE YOU HAVING A LIPID PANEL DONE? ::)
I have no clue, You tell me.. the tests are up there ^
If I have to fast, I will fast totally. I would hate to get a bad lipid reading because of some snack and then get raked over the coals for 3 months by all you Nancy's.
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I'm making cheeseburgers tonight. I'll be thinking of you.
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I'm making cheeseburgers tonight. I'll be thinking of you.
Im having fried pork chops, Fresh mashed potatoes and boiled Okra.
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Doesn't look like they are checking your cholesterol.
Good luck
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I have my blood draw tomorrow and normally the nurse will handwrite write "Fast for 24 hours" on the sheet
24 hours? That's brutal. I've always been told to "fast" after 9 p.m. and have the blood work done some time before 11 a.m. the next day.
Then again, they know your history and your nasty habits. They probably figured that it takes a full day for all that lard running through your veins and liver to properly settle.
Muchos besos,
La Moon,
who is about to eat some fabulous Vietnamese food. Cry your heart out, Guillermina.
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24 hours? That's brutal. I've always been told to "fast" after 9 p.m. and have the blood work done some time before 11 a.m. the next day.
Oh thats my bad, I meant 12 hours.
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The only test that requires fasting (from those you listed) is the comprehensive metabolic profile. This test also includes a blood glucose test. This panel checks all of you electrolytes and liver and kidney functions.
I've never seen a test sheet that didn't have it notated if it required fasting.
Wolfie
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I've never seen a test sheet that didn't have it notated if it required fasting.
My Special Instructions line is always blank...as I stated above it's always handwritten on there. Which clearly is not the best way to do it.
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Anyways, put down your wimpy burgers 12 hours before testing. Wolfie has spoken.
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Anyways, put down your wimpy burgers 12 hours before testing. Wolfie has spoken.
ghurl, please review the thread before you post...I am having Pork Chops, and lots of them.
-W
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I made a huge platter of fried pork chops yesterday for my friends and we are having the leftovers tonight . I haven't had them in a while and they were really good if I don't say so myself .
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I am having Pork Chops, and lots of them.
Dare we ask how many and should we assume that they have gloppy gravy on them?
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(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad246/wolfter/wimpyburger.jpg)
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Dare we ask how many and should we assume that they have gloppy gravy on them?
I'm not sure what "gloppy gravy" is. But yes, they will be smothered in an amazing homemade cream gravy
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I'm not sure what "gloppy gravy" is. But yes, they will be smothered in homemade cream gravy
I have pork chops in the fridge so I'll make those instead of cheeseburgers. Mine will be simply grilled with some garlic and served with saffron risotto. GRAVY IS NOT HEALTHY.
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I really do worry about y'all's diets. As senior citizens, you really should eat better. I myself fixed a huge salad at work today that I'll be able to get several meals out of it.
Shouldn't this thread now be merged with the other "I don't eat healthy" thread?
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Im having fried pork chops, Fresh mashed potatoes and boiled Okra.
When you say "fried pork chop". Are you frying the pork chop in a fryer? Like fried chicken?
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Hey Will:
For the quan TB gold - you may want to check w/ lab ---- when I have had this done at quest, they only do it certain times of the day because it has to be picked up from the lab and processed stat in order to be accurate... Wouldn't want you to go there and only be able to get some of the labs done and have to go back for that one...
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When you say "fried pork chop". Are you frying the pork chop in a fryer? Like fried chicken?
It's probably dredged in flour then "fried" in some oil in a cast iron skillet. Then you make a gravy out of the cooked bits on the bottom of the skillet.
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When you say "fried pork chop". Are you frying the pork chop in a fryer? Like fried chicken?
No silly. In a skillet you Just lay down enough oil to cover about half way up your chop and fry away. Then you use the leftover grease to make your Gravy by adding flower and milk and whisking the hell out of it. Amirite Jeff!
Jeebus you people kill me sometimes.
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Hey Will:
For the quan TB gold - you may want to check w/ lab ---- when I have had this done at quest, they only do it certain times of the day because it has to be picked up from the lab and processed stat in order to be accurate... Wouldn't want you to go there and only be able to get some of the labs done and have to go back for that one...
Ah, thats why it says Mon-Weds 8am to noon only (handwritten of course)
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sorry to throw you guys for :-[ a loop there. :)
anyway...
yes, you should fast tonight after pouring cement in your veins. :)
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and boiled Okra.
yuck, might as well blow your nose and eat it
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yuck, might as well blow your nose and eat it
Dont like swallowing gooey stuff huh? Sux for your hubby.
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boiled Okra.
nasty :o slimy okra is disgusting. (although a spear or two simmered in a pot of beans for flavoring is ok - just don't eat it) the only way to properly cook okra is to coat in flour and fry. although pickled okra is interesting once in a full blue moon.
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nasty :o slimy okra is disgusting. (although a spear or two simmered in a pot of beans for flavoring is ok - just don't eat it) the only way to properly cook okra is to coat in flour and fry. although pickled okra is interesting once in a full blue moon.
Come on man! You call yourself a true Southerner? Yes, Fried Okra is the SHIT, but Boiled okra with sliced toms and onion in it is tops too! and I LOVE pickled Okra also.
I must say Okra is one of my favorite foods.
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Dont like swallowing gooey stuff huh? Sux for your hubby.
mean but very funny. :)
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saw fresh okra once in the past 10 years in our grocery stores.
it's a foreign object here. :)
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Dessert will be an ice cream float made with Boylan's Root Beer.
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Lookie at what I found...
I only eat gravy on my biscuits and Chicken fried steak. So Im safe.
I'm not sure what "gloppy gravy" is. But yes, they will be smothered in an amazing homemade cream gravy
Appears Miss P was correct when she called you a liar!
Sad!
And I never fast before my labs.
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i like your new pic willy. for someone who eats as bad as everyone says you eat, you have nice physique (sp?) lol
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Lookie at what I found...
Appears Miss P was correct when she called you a liar!
Sad!
And I never fast before my labs.
Good catch, my dear. And yes, she lies all of the time about absolutely everything (her age for example).
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i like your new pic willy. for someone who eats as bad as everyone says you eat, you have nice physique (sp?) lol
Honey chile, please. She's been using the same set of pictars from circa 1998 here and on her grndr profiles.
By the way, Guillermina... I echo what Doxie and Mike said before: slimy okra = vomititious. Not only you eat whipped shit from a drive-thru on a regular basis, whenever you "cook" you come up with nasteh stuff.
To quote you: "sux for your hubby" (or whatever twink you may be courting these days) :P
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Lookie at what I found...
Appears Miss P was correct when she called you a liar!
Sad!
And I never fast before my labs.
Word. And have you noticed how all of a sudden this is evolving into "[Mal]Nutrition, Wumpette Style -- Part Deux"?
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Willy,
When in doubt - FAST!
However, Wolfie got it right, only the metabolic panel requires a fast. CBC, technically, does not require it, but if you pour too much lard down just before, your plasma will look like milk and the lab instrumentation will not be able to count your cells. I know, more info than you can handle, so..........
Stop eating NOW!!!
M
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I've never been told to fast for the CBC. I was going to next time, because my glucose has been like 112, and I wanted to see what it is when fasting. Although, as I understand it, 112 would be expected after a meal, but it always flags as high.
I have never been tested for chlamydia, but I guess that's one you'd probably know you had? And, what's an immunodeficiency panel? I've never heard of that. CD4 and all that?
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I've never been told to fast for the CBC. I was going to next time, because my glucose has been like 112, and I wanted to see what it is when fasting. Although, as I understand it, 112 would be expected after a meal, but it always flags as high.
I have never been tested for chlamydia, but I guess that's one you'd probably know you had? And, what's an immunodeficiency panel? I've never heard of that. CD4 and all that?
You do know that a CBC and a glucose test are not the same, right?
You SHOULD fast for a glucose, unless it is taken as a post-prandial test.
M
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You do know that a CBC and a glucose test are not the same, right?
You SHOULD fast for a glucose, unless it is taken as a post-prandial test.
M
Yeah, but isn't the glucose usually a part of the CBC? I know it always lists glucose on the CBC report. Perhaps they just list it under the CBC. I've never had a glucose specific test, where I was told to fast. The only time I've been told to fast was for the lipid screens.
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, you have nice physique (sp?)
Thank You Mikey. You appear to be the only sane person in this thread other than me. :-*
-Will
Ps- It's 10pm, and i jsut finished my bedtime snack (big bowl of Corn Chex). So now I wont be eating until I stop at Lulu's on my way back from the lab tomorrow. Yikes
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From my experience
Testosterone = no need to fast
Vitamin D 25 Hydroxy = no need to fast
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile = yes you need to fast because its included a fasted glucose test. CMP= Basic metabolic panel(BMP)+liver test
CBC = i never fast with this nor anyone tell me to, CBC don't test glucose level
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Yeah, but isn't the glucose usually a part of the CBC? I know it always lists glucose on the CBC report. Perhaps they just list it under the CBC. I've never had a glucose specific test, where I was told to fast. The only time I've been told to fast was for the lipid screens.
Agreed I fast for Lipid profile and Glucose.
CBC don't include a Glucose test
http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/cbc/tab/test
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Thank You Mikey. You appear to be the only sane person in this thread other than me. :-*
-Will
For the longest time, and after hearing all the jokes about your eating habits, I pictured you as chunky. I think there are also jokes bout lack of physical activity. I pictured you eating that country fried steak and then lying on the couch to watch one of the Housewives series followed by a rerun of Walker Texas Ranger, with a tub of ice cream. ;)
So, how do you stay in shape? Do you exercise, or are physically active at work or home? Good genes? Or, are all the jokes very, very exaggerated?
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So, how do you stay in shape? Do you exercise, or are physically active at work or home? Good genes? Or, are all the jokes very, very exaggerated?
Honey, Guilhermina's the one here who passes out when he jogs and/or has to take a stress test at the cardiologist. Obviously he wears Manx (http://www.spanx.com/category/index.jsp?categoryId=3955558) for his photo-shoots.
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My new doctor tells me to always fast for my blood tests, so did my other doctor that used to send me to Quest. When I do fast it's usually for at least 8 hours. I wake up late so I schedule my appointment so I can get up and get ready and head straight for the appointment.
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Honey, Guilhermina's the one here who passes out when he jogs and/or has to take a stress test at the cardiologist. Obviously he wears Manx (http://www.spanx.com/category/index.jsp?categoryId=3955558) for his photo-shoots.
I am placing an order as we speak. That's right. I remember the passing out thing.
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My new doctor tells me to always fast for my blood tests, so did my other doctor that used to send me to Quest. When I do fast it's usually for at least 8 hours. I wake up late so I schedule my appointment so I can get up and get ready and head straight for the appointment.
I think I have been told a handful of times in the last 20 years to fast. I usually try to get my bloodwork done at the same time of day, but that's something I have done entirely on my own.
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I have never been tested for chlamydia, but I guess that's one you'd probably know you had?
Not necessarily. Up to 80% of people never notice any obvious symptoms. This is one of the reasons why sexually active people should have a full sexual health check up at least once a year.
Some others often don't have noticeable symptoms - notably syphilis. Primary syphilis chancres (sores) are painless, so if you get one where you can't see it, you won't know it's there. Gonorrhea can be without noticeable symptoms as well.
So far I've only been asked to fast before blood tests once - to get a base-line lipid profile before I started meds. It was so good they're not going to bother again until this coming summer when I've been on meds for a year.
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Dont like swallowing gooey stuff huh? Sux for your hubby.
Oh I just saw this. Your hubby must be so happy married to a goo-guzzler. Oh wait a minute, you don't have a husband. Unless you count your imaginary marriage to the Biebs. Was that tenuous enough for ya? :P Remember no goo after midnight.
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Yeah, but isn't the glucose usually a part of the CBC? I know it always lists glucose on the CBC report. Perhaps they just list it under the CBC. I've never had a glucose specific test, where I was told to fast. The only time I've been told to fast was for the lipid screens.
No -- Glucose is a chemistry test, CBC (Complete Blood Count) is a Hematology test. CBC is looking at blood cells, glucose is measured in your serum (the liquid portion of your blood AFTER clotting out all cells).
In actuality, there is some sense in, at least a small fast, for many/most tests. Due to the fact that a good number of tests are actually determined using light, having a high fat meal shortly before a blood draw really could leave fat-filled blood, making it difficult to always get accurate readings. Of course, I've been away from clinical labs for a long, long time now and perhaps they have found a way to minimize this affect, but I doubt it.
Fasting is a must for some tests, because they are actually testing for things that would be elevated after eating/drinking (like lipids or glucose).
Mike
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Glucose falls under "Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_metabolic_panel)"
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Now you people have me all confused. I will ask when I get to the lab in a bit.
-W
ps- Im drinking shitty black coffee right now.
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For the longest time, and after hearing all the jokes about your eating habits, I pictured you as chunky. I think there are also jokes bout lack of physical activity.
So, how do you stay in shape? Do you exercise, or are physically active at work or home? Good genes? Or, are all the jokes very, very exaggerated?
I have never weighed more than about 178ish, I'm 5'11. I walk or jog at least 3 miles every few days. I work out a couple times a week.
See, if y'all would turn down the constant background White Noise that is commonly referred to as MissP and Rev Moon some of these true facts would come out.
-W
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Now you people have me all confused. I will ask when I get to the lab in a bit.
-W
ps- Im drinking shitty black coffee right now.
Bad news girl, coffee is verboten if you're fasting before your labs.
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ps- Im drinking shitty black coffee right now.
If you're drinking shitty black coffee, then you broke your fast - at least according to what I've been told in the past.
Every time I've had to do fasting bloods I was told anything other than water - black, sugarless tea and coffee included - counted as a fast-breaker.
(I've done a few fasting-bloods years ago pre-hiv, not just the time pre-meds that I mentioned earlier.)
Maybe they were being extra-cautious, I donno. Calling Mr Bocker?
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\Every time I've had to do fasting bloods I was told anything other than water - black, sugarless tea and coffee included - counted as a fast-breaker.
I have my lab work done in the mornings, as I don't eat breakfast, so this solves the whole fasting issue. However I could never start a day without some Coke in my system. So I have always broken my fast - but always by about the same amount and with the same beverage - so at least my labs should be consistent if not 100% accurate. LOL ;)
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If you're drinking shitty black coffee, then you broke your fast - at least according to what I've been told in the past.
Every time I've had to do fasting bloods I was told anything other than water - black, sugarless tea and coffee included - counted as a fast-breaker.
(I've done a few fasting-bloods years ago pre-hiv, not just the time pre-meds that I mentioned earlier.)
Maybe they were being extra-cautious, I donno. Calling Mr Bocker?
I could be wrong but the last time I had fasting bloods they made me reschedule because I told them I had black coffee.
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The only -- ONLY -- time in twenty years I've been required to do a strict fasting is for surgery (due to anesthesia) or for a cardiologist (myocardial perfusion scanning). Like I said, repeatedly, for an HIV-related blood draw they all know I take food with my twice-daily dosing. They probably prefer that I eat dry toast as opposed to raiding the McD's drive trough a la Feast-de-Guilhermina, but that's not particularly an issue for me. If I had lipid panel undesirable results they would probably get more strict with a pre-test fast, but alas I don't have that.
Seriously, some of you people go overboard with this stuff.
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Seriously, some of you people go overboard with this stuff.
T'was only following orders, M'am. ~tips hat~
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The only -- ONLY -- time in twenty years I've been required to do a strict fasting is for surgery (due to anesthesia)
That's what they say, but I think it's so you don't shit on the operating table. ;D
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That's what they say, but I think it's so you don't shit on the operating table. ;D
It's so the anesthesia doesn't make you puke and choke and clog up your ventilation tubes and be a general pain-in-the-ass for the anesthesiologist. Nothing to do with shitting at all.
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The only -- ONLY -- time in twenty years I've been required to do a strict fasting is for surgery (due to anesthesia) or for a cardiologist (myocardial perfusion scanning). Like I said, repeatedly, for an HIV-related blood draw they all know I take food with my twice-daily dosing. They probably prefer that I eat dry toast as opposed to raiding the McD's drive trough a la Feast-de-Guilhermina, but that's not particularly an issue for me. If I had lipid panel undesirable results they would probably get more strict with a pre-test fast, but alas I don't have that.
Seriously, some of you people go overboard with this stuff.
Like I said the only blood draw I've had which required fasting (can't remember what they were testing for) they asked me if I had eaten or drank anything. When I told them i had a cup of coffee they made me reschedule. No biggie. I could care less if you eat a whole suckling pig before your labs. I'm sure they're just trying to get you out of their office as quickly as possible.
I'm sitting on my deck enjoying a beautiful 70 degree morning. Unfortunately we're expecting thunderstorms this afternoon.
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Personally, I think it easier to just fast before my blood draws, especially since I get them done first thing in the morning. And that's the direction my physician has always given me. I'm sure Wumpy can forego his Eggo waffle, or tacquito from Whattaburger (http://www.whataburger.com/Food/Item/taquito-1), for just one morning. Oh, and even black coffee does break the fast, at least that's what I've heard several times when I've gone to the lab and the phlebotomist scolded some of the other patients.
What I'm really curious about is:
- Why no lipid panel? :( Seriously?
- What's the real reason for the extensive screening for STDs. ;)
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- What's the real reason for the extensive screening for STDs. ;)
Because apparently my doc does not believe me when I tell her I am not a cum-dumpster tramp. She always slips some STD test in there every time.
As fart as the fasting, Pretty much all of you queens are wrong according to my Lab gal. None of the tests I had requires fasting.Only the Lipid panel requires a fast (which was not ordered this time). Also, even on Lipid panels she said a "little" black coffee is ok. like half a cup.
Had a horrible experience today. After being told I didnt have to fast a little boy sits down next to me and starts unwrapping a delish breakfast Taco. I wanted to punch him in his precious face and take the taco, but unfortunately assaulting a minor is still frowned upon. Then once in back, halfway through the draw the nurse is jacking around and drops one of the viles, and at the same time bends down and RIPS the butterfly needle out of my vein, causing blood to splash on my new Baskit Tshirt. then she played jab and poke on the other arm to try to finish out the draw.
BUT, in the end y'all will be pleased to know I didn't stop at Lulu's for their Chicken Fried steak, I came straight home and just finished a banana and bowl of oatmeal.
-Will
Ps- I do so love a Whataburger Taquito :P
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Pretty much all of you queens are wrong according to my Lab gal. None of the tests I had requires fasting.Only the Lipid panel requires a fast (which was not ordered this time). Also, even on Lipid panels she said a "little" black coffee is ok. like half a cup.
Once again, Miss P was correct... ::)
She always slips some STD test in there every time.
Did she look at your blooming sphincter cauliflowers?
ps: what exactly did you have for your post-not-needed-fast meal? or did you skip food and go to the adult bookstore to soak up some hot cum?
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I stand by my original answer. How can you possibly get an accurate reading on your electroylite levels without fasting? Wouldn't a supersized order of McD's fries throw the numbers off? Or eating several bananas for breakfast affecting your potassium levels?
But go ahead and believe some labtech over us. ;)
OH, and I never commented on the coffee thingy. I've always cheated in that regards as Wolfie doesn't even move without a morning pot or 2.
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How am I supposed to adhere to my antiviral regimen if I am required to fast? I guess my doctor is making the hard choices for me.
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She always slips some STD test in there every time.
because just like at my clinic, your doctor is getting $easy dollars$ for doing those unnecessary tests ;)
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But go ahead and believe some labtech over us. ;)
Ok. I will.
Or eating several bananas for breakfast affecting your potassium levels?
LMAO. Several bananas for breakfast? Is that what you hillbillies do? The last thing I knew that ate several banans for breakfast was Bongo the Ape.
because just like at my clinic, your doctor is getting $easy dollars$ for doing those unnecessary tests ;)
I have to pay for my tests, at least a portion of them. So this is a good point. Im going to have to speak to her about this. No telling how much money Ive been wasting.
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I don't care what your lab person told you -- glucose ranges are normally based on fasting samples. Of course, timing is everything -- eating an hour before might be a bigger deal for some than eating 3 hours before. What you eat may have a bigger or smaller impact -- hence, always best to fast, so that you have the "same" sort of environment when drawn.
And......... at least in every lab I ever worked in, drinking black coffee (NO SWEETENING of any kind) does not break a fast. It is, essentially, flavored water -- and doesn't contain anything that is being tested nor should it cause any other interference, like a high fat meal could. Of course black coffee is just that -- no cream/milk (real or powdered) and no sugar or sugar substitute.
Honestly ladies -- is it all that hard to go have your blood drawn BEFORE you eat breakfast? Hell -- even at my fattest, I could hold off on breakfast until 8:00 or 9:00. ::)
M
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Honestly ladies -- is it all that hard to go have your blood drawn BEFORE you eat breakfast? Hell -- even at my fattest, I could hold off on breakfast until 8:00 or 9:00. ::)
My doctor seems satisfied doing it the way we're doing it. In fact, all four doctors I've had since 1993 have done it this way. Odd, isn't it?
Hey, I'm going to see my doctor tomorrow. Should I let him know that Anonymous-Cocksucker-on-the-Internet #4138 said that he knows better than Dr. UMDNJ/Sorbonne degree and Univ. of PA faculty member?
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I think we should revisit this often ...
i like your pic willy. you have nice physique
:-*
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Spanx makes a great male girdle does't it? Now show us a pictar with your shirt off. We both know you won't do it.
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Spanx makes a great male girdle does't it? Now show us a pictar with your shirt off. We both know you won't do it.
So you can pleasure yourself and be all peverted with my rippling chest picv. NEVAH!
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So you can pleasure yourself and be all peverted with my rippling chest picv. NEVAH!
I'm sure your Grandpappy shirtless torso would instantaneously cause my plump testicles to shrivel up and fall on the floor lifeless.
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I have checked several times - with both lab techs and my doc - drinking coffee - as long as it is black - does not break a fast (get it - breakfast - lol)....
Also received following clarification today from doc (I emailed her) - CBC's - don't require a fast.
Metabolic panel, glucose definitely require a fast - as do lipids.
And STDs only require a fast from guzzling (through any orrifice - sp?) slimy, white liquids (well, it probably wouldn't effect them if done in the stall of the quest restroom immediately prior to the labs) ::)
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You can fart, particularly at your age, as for the fasting, no one has offered up a link verifying which way is correct.
Had a horrible experience today. After being told I didnt have to fast a little boy sits down next to me and starts unwrapping a delish breakfast Taco. I wanted to punch him in his precious face and take the taco,
First of all you wouldn't have the farting issue if you didn't eat shit like that. Second, to take your aggressive thoughts out on a poor little boy with probably endearing farts is just disgusting.
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You can fart, particularly at your age,
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LMAO, I totally didnt catch that. Oppsie my bad
Ps- LOVE your avatar. Is that a recent pic?
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LMAO. Several bananas for breakfast? Is that what you hillbillies do? The last thing I knew that ate several banans for breakfast was Bongo the Ape.
You're seriously going to laugh at my regular meals? ;D A reminder from the other thread about my delicious and nutricious meals.
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad246/wolfter/008.jpg)
I know it's not smothered with gravy, but still quite satisfying.
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You're seriously going to laugh at my regular meals? ;D A reminder from the other thread about my delicious and nutricious meals.
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad246/wolfter/008.jpg)
I know it's not smothered with gravy, but still quite satisfying.
It actually looks quite good. Especially the toms. Yum.
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So I got my labs back today -- my glucose reading is right in the middle of normal range. I wonder what it would be if I'd fasted 8)
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So I got my labs back today -- my glucose reading is right in the middle of normal range. I wonder what it would be if I'd fasted 8)
and Lipids?
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and Lipids?
They were done last time. He doesn't do them every time -- BECAUSE MINE ARE FINE. Mebbe you should stop with the psychological projection.
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My doctor seems satisfied doing it the way we're doing it. In fact, all four doctors I've had since 1993 have done it this way. Odd, isn't it?
Hey, I'm going to see my doctor tomorrow. Should I let him know that Anonymous-Cocksucker-on-the-Internet #4138 said that he knows better than Dr. UMDNJ/Sorbonne degree and Univ. of PA faculty member?
Yes, please do! I often had to educate some docs on lab procedures.
Of course, if you never fast, then the comparison is likely OK -- unless sometimes you eat an hour prior, or 2 hours prior. There IS a reason that there exists post-prandial glucose testing vs. fasting glucose testing.
Of course -- I would never advocate NOT following your doctor's recommendations -- I am only giving you the facts as I know them and as I learned them while studying clinical laboratory science.
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So I got my labs back today -- my glucose reading is right in the middle of normal range. I wonder what it would be if I'd fasted 8)
When and what did you last eat? Glucose should spike and return to normal within a 1-2 hour window of eating.
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It actually looks quite good. Especially the toms. Yum.
Girl are you striving to be like Kris Kardashian (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-kris-jenner-kardashian-talk-show-20130128,0,7191416.story)? You already have one thread about food. It is not all about you on these forums.
PS: Did you get your lipids checked before you fainted?
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PS: Did you get your lipids checked before you fainted?
You know...hmmm. I'm starting to think NONE of you people can read. Like at all.
I didnt faint. During the blood draw the tech ripped the butterfly out of my vein. I was conscious the whole time, trust me on that.
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When and what did you last eat? Glucose should spike and return to normal within a 1-2 hour window of eating.
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Probably a very lightly buttered toasted bagel 3-4 hours before my blood draw. Or it could have been a bowl of granola with no fat milk. And only black coffee, no sugar.
Anyway, my larger point is that obviously IF my doctor was routinely seeing something worrying over a couple of tests, and IF it was something he thought warranted a fasting, THEN he would have me come back in and do it which ever way was warranted.
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Probably a very lightly buttered toasted bagel 3-4 hours before my blood draw. Or it could have been a bowl of granola with no fat milk. And only black coffee, no sugar.
Anyway, my larger point is that obviously IF my doctor was routinely seeing something worrying over a couple of tests, and IF it was something he thought warranted a fasting, THEN he would have me come back in and do it which ever way was warranted.
Well -- you are correct. If your glucose was elevated, you would need to repeat it fasting -- although I think your larger point really is to get the last word AND prove you are right. The Wump asked a question -- I answered it based on my professional knowledge -- what YOU do, wasn't important to me in this context.
I will continue to stand by my advice that glucose testing should be done fasting, unless specifically directed otherwise by your doctor. That isn't based on my individual experience (i.e. anecdote) -- it's based on education (i.e. science). Perhaps it doesn't matter in many instances, but having to repeat a test because someone had to eat an hour or so before a blood draw is wasteful -- of medical resources, time and money.
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although I think your larger point really is to get the last word AND prove you are right.
Seriously? You are saying that?
Hilarious
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"I have never been tested for chlamydia, but I guess that's one you'd probably know you had?"
Someone who isn't me told me that no, you may not know you have it.
Oh, and okra is delicious.
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It actually looks quite good. Especially the toms. Yum.
I base a lot of my diet on my lab results. I've ALWAYS had issues with my electrolyte levels. I think it was included in the lipid results I posted in another thread. My potassium levels have consistently been extremely low and so have my sodium levels. My doctor said I'm the only person he has ever recommended adding salt to my diet. The problem is, I can't stand the taste. And I don't eat much fast food or processed food.
Aha, found it.
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad246/wolfter/labs2.jpg)
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My doctor said I'm the only person he has ever recommended adding salt to my diet.
I dont even have a salt shaker at the table. I dont add salt to much of anything, only in cooking if need be, such as gravy
It really is a shame that you people cant eat like this (http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af308/IwuvPhilly/prime.jpg) and look like this (http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af308/IwuvPhilly/P1010004-1.jpg) ::)
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It really is a shame that you people cant eat like this (http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af308/IwuvPhilly/prime.jpg) and look like this (http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af308/IwuvPhilly/P1010004-1.jpg) ::)
Hey there Milburn! How's the roid rage today?
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It really is a shame that you people cant look like this (http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af308/IwuvPhilly/P1010004-1.jpg) ::)
Oh please. How old is that picture? You had hair then ::)
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I dont even have a salt shaker at the table. I dont add salt to much of anything, only in cooking if need be, such as gravy
It really is a shame that you people cant eat like this (http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af308/IwuvPhilly/prime.jpg) and look like this (http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af308/IwuvPhilly/P1010004-1.jpg) ::)
I don't enjoy eating like that and look much better anyways. ;D
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Hey there Milburn! How's the roid rage today?
Winning comment of the day. Hand her a pink tiara.
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What did yall say!!! I cant hear yall I'm in the middle of a 5 mile run!
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What did yall say!!! I cant hear yall I'm in the middle of a 5 mile run!
Why, did you see a cute twink? ;)
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It really is a shame that you people cant eat like this (http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af308/IwuvPhilly/prime.jpg) and look like this (http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af308/IwuvPhilly/P1010004-1.jpg) ::)
Oooooh Will, you used to be are soooo hoooot!!!! Look what you've done to me (http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/livebythemoon/3690d837952d0d65e77a2c43e90720dd_zps7608a031.jpg)...
Chile, please. As a certain someone (that I know you would not be able to name in this lifetime) would say, "I wouldn't suck your lousy dick if I was suffocating and there was oxygen in your balls!"
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Hey there Milburn! How's the roid rage today?
Oh please. How old is that picture? You had hair then ::)
Winning comment of the day. Hand her a pink tiara.
Oooooh Will, you used to be are soooo hoooot!!!! Look what you've done to me (http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/livebythemoon/3690d837952d0d65e77a2c43e90720dd_zps7608a031.jpg)...
All the Nerds hatin' on the Jocks ::)
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All the Nerds hatin' on the Jocks ::)
There goes your Miss Congeniality sash.
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There goes your Miss Congeniality sash.
:)
(she has been a bit testy of late.) ;D
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Willy dosent need to lift weights , he gets enough exercise shouldering all the abuse he gets around here . I did like that pic of his twin brother that used to exercise though .
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There goes your Miss Congeniality sash.
I'll let MissP have it :P
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Chile, please. As a certain someone (that I know you would not be able to name in this lifetime) would say, "I wouldn't suck your lousy dick if I was suffocating and there was oxygen in your balls!"
^This. Say it with me now: Mable, Mable. Set the table. And don't forget the RED HOT PEPPERS!
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I dont even have a salt shaker at the table. I dont add salt to much of anything, only in cooking if need be, such as gravy
and look like this (http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af308/IwuvPhilly/P1010004-1.jpg) ::)
I will have to dig for another lie about not using Salt, probably won't have to dig to deep. As for the photo, wow! Where's is your chest?
Ann has it, right? :-X
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I will have to dig for another lie about not using Salt, probably won't have to dig to deep. As for the photo, wow! Where's is your chest?
Ann has it, right? :-X
He doesn't need to add salt to things because it's already loaded with salt when he pulls out the drive through or takes something out of a frozen box.
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WillyWump
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just another Poz slacker
Re: Recipe Thread
« Reply #120 on: October 30, 2010, 11:04:00 PM »
Here's another one your family will love!
Elephant Stew
1 Elephant
2 rabbits (optional)
2 large onions
BRown Gravy
1 cup each of salt and pepper
1 clove of garlic
So Willy, did you commit a fraud when you submitted this recipe for our cookbook? One cup of salt...oh my
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My, my, my... Wolfterina, you are becoming the new Philicia :)
Next time I need to dig up some dirt on one of these queens I know who I'll be contacting.
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My, my, my... Wolfterina, you are becoming the new Philicia :)
Next time I need to dig up some dirt on one of these queens I know who I'll be contacting.
I remember because I tried the recipe although I eliminated the elephant, rabbit, salt and switched water for the gravy. :)
Since MissP is only slightly older than me, I had to learn all her tricks. How else will I dethrone her?
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Since MissP is only slightly older than me, I had to learn all her tricks. How else will I dethrone her?
I'm 47, you're 47. The only trick you need to learn is arithmetic.
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I'm 47, you're 47. The only trick you need to learn is arithmetic.
Since you turn 48 shortly and I don't until later this summer; I WIN! My arithmetic indicates that I'm just slightly younger than you. Come up with a different dispute. ;)
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Come up with a different dispute. ;)
Did you just see Jax Taylor on Watch What Happens Live! totally shirtless and drenched in five different cocktails? I was kinda living.
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Did you just see Jax Taylor on Watch What Happens Live! totally shirtless and drenched in five different cocktails? I was kinda living.
Of course I did. I never miss Andy's show and to see that hot cast prancing around shirtless...WOW
Jax really isn't the hottest one though. He has a great body, but his age is showing a bit of wear and tear. Unlike some of us.
Every notice how Wumpy's threads always lead back to food, sex or a combination of both?
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but his age is showing a bit of wear and tear.
His bio says he's 29 though in one scene on the show I think his friends referred to him as 33, but whatever. Perfect age as far as I'm concerned as he doesn't look like some twinkie fairy like the other guy.
When did you morph into a sad ageist along the lines of Theodore?
Also, cocks (http://www.hauteliving.com/2013/01/keeping-up-with-scott-disick/337635/)
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1 Elephant
2 rabbits (optional)
2 large onions
BRown Gravy
1 cup each of salt and pepper
1 clove of garlic
So Willy, did you commit a fraud when you submitted this recipe for our cookbook? One cup of salt...oh my
Uhh no. If you could read at even a third grade level you would notice that I stated " I use salt...only if need be in cooking". This recipe above qualifies as "in cooking". And in this particular recipe salt is mandatory because of the 2 rabbits.
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Uhh no. If you could read at even a third grade level you would notice that I stated " I use salt...only if need be in cooking". This recipe above qualifies as "in cooking". And in this particular recipe salt is mandatory because of the 2 rabbits.
More lies.
Since this thread should be called Blood, Lies, and the Intrawebz here's a pictar of the lovely Giovanna Plowman.
(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/livebythemoon/3ac9744080f65c8012c85615f0b6e402_zpsa681e6af.jpg)
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I will have to dig for another lie about not using Salt, probably won't have to dig to deep. As for the photo, wow! Where's is your chest?
Ann has it, right? :-X
You leave my boobies out of this!
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Uhh no. If you could read at even a third grade level you would notice that I stated " I use salt...only if need be in cooking". This recipe above qualifies as "in cooking". And in this particular recipe salt is mandatory because of the 2 rabbits.
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So how do you not ingest salt if it's used in cooking? Another caveat to your lack of using salt?
When did you morph into a sad ageist along the lines of Theodore?
Also, cocks (http://www.hauteliving.com/2013/01/keeping-up-with-scott-disick/337635/)
Not ageist, just a point of view that his hard partying lifestyle is taking a toll. I think he looks much older than he really is. Be it 29 or 39. That said, I'd definitely take a ride on the Jax Express. ;D
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So how do you not ingest salt if it's used in cooking?
Seriously? You REALLY need to attend a remedial reading comprehension class at your local community college. Where do I say "I do not ingest salt" in this statement..
I dont even have a salt shaker at the table. I dont add salt to much of anything, only in cooking if need be, such as gravy
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Seriously? You REALLY need to attend a remedial reading comprehension class at your local community college. Where do I say "I do not ingest salt" in this statement..
I dont even have a salt shaker at the table. I dont add salt to much of anything, only in cooking if need be, such as gravy
Now you've gone and hurt my delicate sensibilities. Therefore, I hesitate to articulate on the true course of rectitude for the fear of deviation. :-[
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I dont even have a salt shaker at the table. I dont add salt to much of anything, only in cooking if need be, such as gravy
Look girl, you don't add salt "at the table" because all you eat is take out and drive through. Nobody is impressed with your sodium intake claim. It's laughable.
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I bet that BBQ sauce (of which there is too much) is swimming in sodium. And such mayo overkill with both potato salad and cole slaw. Weren't there other choices?
Note: please keep you food pictures in the appropriate Nutrition thread thankuverymuch
ps: about to make a 3-egg and country ham omelet!
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I bet that BBQ sauce (of which there is too much) is swimming in sodium. And such mayo overkill with both potato salad and cole slaw. Weren't there other choices?
Please. what would you know about BBQ sauce. Leave the saucin' to us Texans. There's no mayo in that Cole Slaw, it's vinegar based ::)
ps: country ham
That's a shit load of Sodium Ghurl!
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Please. what would you know about BBQ sauce. Leave the saucin' to us Texans.
I know enough to tell you that East Carolina style BBQ is superior, that's what. And if you'd ever exhibited one ounce of food knowledge during your years here extolling faux-tacos via Cairo we might be able to have a sane discussion, but alas that is not nor ever will be the case.
That's a shit load of Sodium Ghurl!
Well duh. But I am not the one making any claims here about my sodium intake so kindly turn off the self-projection and worry about yours.
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I know enough to tell you that East Carolina style BBQ is superior, that's what. And if you'd ever exhibited one ounce of food knowledge during your years here extolling faux-tacos via Cairo we might be able to have a sane discussion, but alas that is not nor ever will be the case.
You wanna take that blaspehmous mouth of yours over to the Nutrition thread so we can finish this proper?
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Note: please keep you food pictures in the appropriate Nutrition thread thankuverymuch
I'm gonna report this pitiful thread so that it is merged with the "Nutrition" topic. Who does La Wumpetta think that she is to have two separate threads about the same bullshit?
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You wanna take that blaspehmous mouth of yours over to the Nutrition thread so we can finish this proper?
Most Southerners will tell you that BBQ=pork, not beef. The only ones that disagree are the ones that think cowboy boots are Southern.
I'm gonna report this pitiful thread so that it is merged with the "Nutrition" topic. Who does La Wumpetta think that she is to have two separate threads about the same bullshit?
It's all the blow she used to do in the gay clubs so she wasn't forced to contemplate the vagina waiting for her at home. Swelled up her head and lowered an already low IQ.
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That's a good point about going off on a (gratuitous) food tangent in this thread. It's in the Living section and about a subject which many of our newer members may need guidance on.
That guidance really doesn't include photos or details of specific meals - meals they shouldn't be eating before fasting bloods anyway.
Start posting your food stuff back in the Off Topic thread, please. If I have time tomorrow I might just split some of this thread out and stick it in the other thread.
Please try to remember what forum you're posting in, guys.
Thanks. ;)
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That's a good point about going off on a (gratuitous) food tangent in this thread. It's in the Living section and about a subject which many of our newer members may need guidance on.
That guidance really doesn't include photos or details of specific meals - meals they shouldn't be eating before fasting bloods anyway.
Start posting your food stuff back in the Off Topic thread, please. If I have time tomorrow I might just split some of this thread out and stick it in the other thread.
Please try to remember what forum you're posting in, guys.
Thanks. ;)
Yes ma'am ;) I deleted the pic, and thats why I directed P over to Nutrition.
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Yes ma'am ;) I deleted the pic, and thats why I directed P over to Nutrition.
Thank you, dear. I'll have to make you some Manx tacos one day.
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Now you've gone and hurt my delicate sensibilities. Therefore, I hesitate to articulate on the true course of rectitude for the fear of deviation. :-[
THE quote of the day.
:) ;) ;D
(imagine this said in a southern accent)
oops, sorry Ann, skipped reading before posting. my bad.
(but it was funny) :-[ ;)
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Yes ma'am ;) I deleted the pic, and thats why I directed P over to Nutrition.
Do I need to remind you of what was said earlier -- even though you tried to be sly and say that you were totally conscious as you were getting pricked:
Girl are you striving to be like Kris Kardashian (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-kris-jenner-kardashian-talk-show-20130128,0,7191416.story)? You already have one thread about food. It is not all about you on these forums.
PS: Did you get your lipids checked before you fainted?
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To get this thread back on track if they're doing a free testosterone test you're required to fast for 14 hours beforehand. Everyone seemed to be saying you don't need to fast but it depends on which type of test they're doing.
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THE quote of the day.
:) ;) ;D
(imagine this said in a southern accent)
oops, sorry Ann, skipped reading before posting. my bad.
(but it was funny) :-[ ;)
Now why would you reckon I speak with a southern accent? ;) Ohio River folk have their own dialect. Not quite southern and definitely not yank.
The only announciation issues I have are any words ending in with a G. I first became aware of it after a Powerpoint presentation in college when my grade was lowered because of it. My only grade appeal ever and it was reversed by the dean after a powerful discussion.
Wolfie
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To get this thread back on track if they're doing a free testosterone test you're required to fast for 14 hours beforehand. Everyone seemed to be saying you don't need to fast but it depends on which type of test they're doing.
Oh great. Now yall saying I gotta fast for the Testo tests ::)
Dont you worry people I intend to put all this to rest Monday at 2pm when I meet with my doctor. She got a lot of splainin to do.
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You do not need to fast for a blood draw for testosterone, get it taken AM if possible, when your testosterone will be at its highest highest.
See:
http://www.labtestsonline.org.uk/understanding/analytes/testosterone/tab/sample (http://www.labtestsonline.org.uk/understanding/analytes/testosterone/tab/sample)
Fasting for cholesterol and blood glucose is sometimes requested but not essential except in specific circumstances, eg a previous unfasted test is alarming, special investigations indicated. The only exception here could be triglycerides, which are recommended tested when fasted. Which means it might make practical sense to fast before testing for cholesterol if they do the blood draw for several tests all in one session.
My rule of thumb is to get all test done at the same time of day, under the same food conditions, otherwise you can't establish a trend that's worth looking at. At my GP this is always first thing AM, at clinic after lunch. My cholesterol and blood glucose are always higher at clinic but not significantly.
Coffee/tea without milk or sugar are not food and do not count as breaking a fast. It's fat, sugar or protein (erm, bacon) that count here.
Hope the nurse is kind with the needle.
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I bumped this, after reading this article today. The study isn't perfect, but still interesting.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/13/news/la-heb-fasting-eat-blood-lipid-test-20121112
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I've gotten in the habit of fasting for 12 hours before any of my bloodwork, even if it isn't required.
My ID doc prints the blood work forms and they have a barcode for the collection facility (I use the one at the hospital since they accept my insurance, plus the results are in the system for my next visit a week later).
If you aren't sure, just ask. My ID doc is really good that way, I have called and he has called back that same day after office hours.