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hand to genital contact
« on: June 12, 2013, 06:37:49 pm »
I had a few encounters where all I did was recieve protected oral, during the encounters I rubbed and touched the outer part of the women vaginas where I started to feel vaginal fluids on my fingers. I did not insert my fingers in their vaginas. I was wondering if it was possible to contract hiv from just rubbing and touching a womans vagina with my fingers that has come in contact vaginal fluids?

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Re: hand to genital contact
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 06:41:24 pm »
The only risks for HIV are unprotected anal and vaginal sex. Neither receiving oral sex nor fingering a vagina can transmit HIV.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: hand to genital contact
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 11:35:08 pm »
I can understand that I was at no risk from recieving oral, especially since I used protection. Im just very confuse on my encounter where I was rubbing and touching the outer part of the vaginia where i started to feel vaginal fluids on my fingers. Is it still a no risk even if my fingers are dry, cracked, and have peeling skin on my fingers?

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Re: hand to genital contact
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2013, 11:58:35 pm »
I can understand that I was at no risk from recieving oral, especially since I used protection. Im just very confuse on my encounter where I was rubbing and touching the outer part of the vaginia where i started to feel vaginal fluids on my fingers. Is it still a no risk even if my fingers are dry, cracked, and have peeling skin on my fingers?

You were not at risk for receiving oral even if you didn't use protection. Saliva is NOT infectious. As a matter of fact, it contains over a dozen identified elements that render HIV inert and unable to transmit.

Fingering is NOT EVER a riskfor HIV. Not even if thye are dry, cracked, peeling, with poor cuticles and hangnails. Bleieve me, we have heard every conceivable scenario. And HIV cannot transmit outside the body like that.

Your urethra, the tip at the end of the penis, is the vulnerable area on a male during vaginal sex. THAT is all. Wear a condom for penetrative anal and vaginal sex, and don't share IV drug needles. That is seriously all that it takes to avoid HIV.

You had categorically NO RISK.

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Re: hand to genital contact
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2013, 12:02:08 am »
HIV  is acquired through unprotected vaginal and anal sex and not through fingering , no one ever has been infected in the manner you are concerned with and you will not be the first .


The female secretion where hiv has been shown to be present is the cervicovaginal fluid. This fluid is actually a thick mucus that covers and protects the cervix.

The fluid a woman produces when sexually excited comes from the Bartholin's glands, located on either side of the vaginal opening and isn't infectious for HIV so you didn't have a risk , not even a little one  .
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Re: hand to genital contact
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2013, 06:49:00 am »
jlouchy,

You were told repeatedly over at MedHelp that you absolutely did NOT have a risk for hiv infection. Did you seriously think you'd get different answers here?

Our risk assessments are based on the science of hiv transmission. That science tells us that you, in no way, shape or form, had a risk for hiv infection.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST FOR HIV SPECIFICALLY FOLLOWING THIS NO RISK FINGERING SITUATION, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: hand to genital contact
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2013, 08:11:03 am »
Ok, thank you all for the clarification of my encounters, now what about std's, what is the risk factor of contracting an std from my encounter?

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Re: hand to genital contact
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2013, 08:15:42 am »
j,

The blowjobs you had were protected - so no risk for STIs there.

Unprotected blowjobs can sometimes result in syphilis, herpes or gonorrhea infections, but NOT hiv. Getting a blowjob, with or without a condom, is NOT a risk for hiv infection.

Fingering isn't a risk for any STIs.

Ann
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